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LA has 2 little saigons (biggest outside Vietnam!), 5 Chinatowns (one of them HUGE--imagine pasadena, TX times 2 and all chinese! only 10 miles from downtown by the way, covers 11 suburbs CONTINUOUSLY!), 3 little tokyos (one in downtown, one 15miles away), 4-5 Ktowns (3 of them right next to Chinatowns, 1 HUGE in downtown LA-biggest in USA w/a KOREAN JUMBOTRON NY style!!!). Heres another "kicker", you want nightlife? take the metro to westside. It equals about ten times Houstons measly nightlife. Oh, LA area is about 35%latino thank you. Only LA proper is 55%. Add to that: biggest Mex, Korean Persian, Armenian, Thai, 2nd biggest Jewish, Russian pops in USA all within midwilshire-midtown? Not getting along? your claim sounds suspect to me Texan. Just face it, Houston has neither the depth nor breadth to compare w/ a true world class city like LA. Its a small town in our books. Racially, we have our probs, thats why were more complex. Houston just doesnt see us. P.S.Proportionality???..2mil/14mil=14% 300k/5mill=6% you do the math. P.P.S. L.A. recieved 80% of its asians the last 20 yrs.
Read This Article: http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/99jan/chinese.htm
Edluva
Tuesday, January 07, 2003 at 23:30:56 (PST)
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worldlyman,
not sure what your proportionality point is meant to prove regarding korean and japanese populations.
all i said was that socal has the largest korean and japanese populations in the u.s. while houston does not have much of either. being a 3rd gen korean/japanese-american, i feel socal has the most to offer to me more than other cities in the u.s. most koreans and japanese live in primarily l.a. county with a large number of koreans also in north orange county. outside of these counties, there isnt much of either communities in the other surrounding counties, which is why your proportionality point doesnt make much sense. youll be hardpressed to see a lot of asians in outlying ventura, san bernardino or riverside counties.
my original point was that houston, like various other cities has a large chinese and vietnamese population which is great if youre either chinese or vietnamese. but its not a city that many japanese or koreans would want to move to. ive met many koreans who moved to socal from various places and have met many japanese from hawaii and seattle whove relocated to l.a.
they all pretty say the same thing.... that they moved here to l.a. because of the large j and k communities. the great thing about socal is that it has the greatest asian diversity in the u.s.
jk guy
Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 21:05:25 (PST)
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"Do you see a Little Saigon, 2 K-Towns, Little Tokyo, Little Phenom Phenh, Thai Town, and several Chinatowns in houston?!?!" Quote by 007
Usually a quote from someone who obviously has not explored Houston's king size sprawl.
Houston has about three Little Saigons, two Chinatowns, a Little Korea, AND a NEWER huge pan-Asian town along the roads of Veterans Memorial in NW Houston and then a business center that houses several Japanese businesses including a grocery store, a Japanese fast food cafe and such (not to mention the other Japanese restaurants spread about the city)...........in fact there are many businesses in Houston owned by Cambodians. In fact, I will even provide the numbers of what Houston's leading Cambodian matriarch posited....as soon as I find it in my file.
And here's the kicker..........unlike LA area where the general Little Saigon area is about less then 40 minutes from the LA area........in Houston, we can choose from downtown, or the great SW Alief area or the far NW Veterans Memorial area! Talk about convenience.
Houston's got Little Nigeria.......which I don't notice in LA. And unlike relatviely segregated LA, the cool phenom about Houston is that Little Nigeria is also Little Manila and Little Pakistan. I've seen quite a few Nigerian restaurants in Houston but have never seen one in LA (though there may or may not be any).
Like LA, Houston just has a plethora of Central and Southern American cafes (Colombian, Guatemalan, El Salvadoran).
Yep, folks.........we do get along better in Houston more so than other big cities.
And here's the kicker too........Houston has a happening day and night MAJOR downtown, while LA has a daytime downtown good only for muggers and jewelry bargaineers.
And to jk guy,
Looking at the overall population of ALL of Southern California versus just the Houston region alone? To compare 1.2 million Koreans/Japanese in SoCal versus about 40,000 in Houston.......well, that's kinda deceptive and unfair.
Los Angeles has what? About 2 million Asians in a five county area of about 14 million? And Houston? About 300,000 Asians in an eight county area of 5 million (we can leave about five of those counties that occupy a very far edge, where few Asians live; that leaves us with the Houston metro or Harris Co. and adjacent counties like Fort Bend)? Proportionality is about the same.
I repeat, the proportionality is roughly the same. But LA is 55% Latino. Houston on the other hand is more balanced, with roughly 30% Latino, 30% black, 30% white and 10% other. And there's not as much inter-racial bickering in H-town. We should not neglect to mention that Asian growth in Houston has skyrocketed 76% from 1990 to 2000!
With that in mind, Houston has closed many margins with Los Angeles in just 20 years in terms of Asian pop culture and strange Asian food in Houston I've never seen before. Keep in mind, LA had the 100 year start.
I'm quite proud of what Houston has become in just 20 years. And it's all in the arrangement.........you comparatively see just as many Asians walking around in Houston as you would in LA, proportionately.
Go to the AMC theater there on Dunvale. Go bowl at those alleys in Alief or in eastern Sharpstown. Take a trip to the Texas Med Center area. Go drive up as far as FM 1960. Go to Kemah. Shop at the Galleria. The Rice Village............you go all over Houston's central to western cores and you Asians all over that city.
Need to buy Korean foodstuffs like that crushed grape juice? Want Korean cafes that do not cater to "Americanized" taste buds? Go to Houston's Long Point/Gessner axis, and you can't complain. Tons of Korean grocers there. I know. My favorite is that big Memorial Market.
Once we're done with SoCal with our obligations (living in San Diego now), my wife and I look forward to returning to lovely Houston.
worldlyman
Monday, December 16, 2002 at 03:37:45 (PST)
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007:
"-LA/OC's: Little Saigon
-LA: K-Town
-NY: Chinatown + suburbs,
-SJ/Oakland areas
-Houston"
"Do you see a Little Saigon, 2 K-Towns, Little Tokyo, Little Phenom Phenh, Thai Town, and several Chinatowns in houston?!?!
Houston...uh...no thankx."
Uhh... first you say Houston is good, then you bash it? =P
TSJ Eric@KristinKreuk.net
Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 11:40:33 (PST)
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while houston's asian population has grown tremendously over the years, it accounts for primarily chinese and vietnamese growth. there is not much of a korean population and an almost non-existent japanese population. since i'm neither chinese nor vietnamese, i have zero interest in living in a city like houston. hence, houston is more like the cities in canada more so than california. the combined korean and japanese populations in southern california reaches close to 1.3 million. the combined k/j population in the houston metro area is less than 40 thousand. although houston's chinese and vietnamese population has grown, its still not remotely close to the overall asian diversity of southern california.
jk guy
Tuesday, November 26, 2002 at 14:55:37 (PST)
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To worldlyman:
Do you see a Little Saigon, 2 K-Towns, Little Tokyo, Little Phenom Phenh, Thai Town, and several Chinatowns in houston?!?!
Houston...uh...no thankx.
and....
Bigger is NOT always better....
007
Monday, November 25, 2002 at 17:50:40 (PST)
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It's easy to say that CA has more Asians than Texas but you have to remember two things. To most Asians CA was here before TX and that is the sole reason there ar more asians in CA. Secondly, People in TX tend to think big, just like people in Asia. That's the way things work down here, Hakeem, Nolan Ryan, Earl Campbell, the Aggies, Oil Wells, Steve Francis & Yao Ming. Everything is bigger in TEXAS!!!!
Htownrocket
Saturday, November 23, 2002 at 00:11:53 (PST)
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