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Wish i could say that i graduated from a B-school. My MBA has gotten me nowhere for the past 5 yrs, but that's another story. I was wondering if anyone knows about opportunities in Asia for MBAs in Info technology. I've heard of companies abroad that subsidize room and board. Thanks.
Azn dude Monday, July 15, 2002 at 06:01:44 (PDT)

But AC Clueless would have you believe that Accenture is tops.

I wonder why, with more number of employees and thus a bigger hiring need, Accenture hires less at top schools like Wharton but instead can only recruit at smaller (worse) schools.

Must be that high compensation package, eh? AC Clueless, comments?
Annapolis Harvard Law Grad Monday, July 15, 2002 at 00:21:18 (PDT)

Jekyl and Hyde, take the offers in Asia. You are better off learning the language than trying to break the glass ceiling.

Another HBS Asian American Alum
Response to Jekyl and Hyde Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 09:51:19 (PDT)

Mckinsey is the most prestigious consultancy on the planet.

Top MBA students know what the best is. Let's take Wharton (a top 3 school) for example:

1) Mckinsey hiring 86
2) Bain 39
3) Goldman 31
4) BCG 23
5) CSFB 22
6) Morgan stanely 21

10) accenture 17

cheers

CAgentility Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 00:43:09 (PDT)

"I can barely speak anything but English. What's going on? For companies in Asia, people were all over me, treating me like I was some of kind of superstar. U.S. companies treated me like crap. (Actually, sub-crap). In fact, for some places the recruiter was the same for Asia and the U.S. and was like Jekyl and Hyde. Thoughts?"

I've heard that investment banking in the U.S. is a highly politically charged and anti-Asian culture (anti-female, too). Go to a non-U.S. context, gain the experience and develop your analytic skills for a year or two, and then get your ass back in the U.S. and leverage your background like hell. Go to the top company: it sounds like Goldman Sachs. Don't waste your time on second-tier companies, starting off.

Also, check out Vault.com. You'll find some good career management and industry related information at the site.
Fellow Asian American Saturday, July 13, 2002 at 17:05:10 (PDT)

Jekyl and Hyde,

Well here my vicarious experience from people who worked at Goldman Sachs Tokyo, Japan. They work 5 1/2 days of the week. You need to speak a lot of Japanese, and read some Japanese. There are a few expat you can hang with.

My experience as an expat in ROC. You need to work 5 1/2 days in a week, alternating 5 days a week. You need to speak and read a lot of Chinese.

My experience as an expat in HK. You need to work a 6 day week. You need to speak cantonese and read chinese. You can get away with english with other expat employees.

It is very crowded living in asia. Unless you speak the language, it will be hard to make a lot of friends. But if the company has a lot of expats in it you can hang in some usually expat hang out. Also you will have to deal with the local food, possible boiling water, and squatting in public toilets.
AC Dropout Wednesday, July 10, 2002 at 12:05:42 (PDT)

Census,

Your post does not make much sense.

Mckinsey is no more specialized than Accenture? What are you talking about Mckinsey only has 7000 employees Accenture has 74000 employees. Mckinsey revenues are based on their management consulting (3 billion). Accenture revenues are based on IT, Strategy, Change Management, and Process consulting (11 billion).

Once again you and the rest of the career employees on this subject are mistaking this very fine point: How much the organization collects from a client (bill rate) and how much they pay out to their employees (salary). I can assure you it is at least a factor of 10.

You keep making the same fatal flaw. Just because Mckinsey pay their employees a little more than their Accenture counterparts on average, doesn't make them #1. If you look at the principal payout at AC and Mckinsey, before AC went public. AC partners got paid more.

Principal my dropout a$$.
AC Dropout Wednesday, July 10, 2002 at 09:55:48 (PDT)

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