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ASIAN AMERICAN ISSUES
IS THE AA GENDER DIVIDE REAL?
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Wednesday, Jan 22, 2025, 06:38:55 AM)
sian American women are abandoning AA men by the millions. Young AA women seek out any race of men but their own. Women like Amy Tan write books and make movies that dump on AA men and glorify Asian women in relationships with white men.
That's the perception of many AA men.
On what do they blame this state of affairs? Brainwashing by media that play up white men while cutting Asian men off at the knees. Desire for payback by AA women who feel slighted by their families and Asian society. Large numbers of non-Asian men with blind fetishes for Asian women. Some even acknowledge that Asian men are often too fixed in their ideas of how a woman should look and behave, causing many AF to feel devalued.
Other Asian Americans see AF outmarriage rates as merely a natural state of affairs for a 4% minority population that includes many recent immigrants. The outmarriage gender gap will narrow as growing Asian population centers provide ready access to bigger pools of singles. Besides outmarriage is't the same as rejecting one's racial identity, they argue. Many AF who outmarry retain strong identification with their Asian identity.
Is there really an Asian American gender divide? Is so, what's behind it? If not, what's behind the perception?
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"Movies, music, and television reflects what the majority wants to hear or see. Another words, most of White America will not pay to watch a romantic film involving an AM/WF relationship. In most cases they would rather see AM's play that sterotypical role of either geeks or gangsters."
Actually, the advertising revenue goes down even in sports where Asian women are on top...if they showcase Michelle Kwan and Kristi Yamaguchi, fewer white people watch compared to Tara (Lipinski) and Sara (Hughes) show. Now that Lindsay Yamasaki is rated amongst the best...would products sell if they feature her as a basketball hero over a white or black female..I think not.
"So what does the media do about profitability growth? Appeal to the mass by marketing what they want to see or hear. AM's potraying a non-sterotypical role will not generate enough revenue."
A stereotypical role would be that of the so-called "model minority", perhaps Asians as University Professors or Researchers, such as John Nash in "A Beautiful Mind." Portraying an Asian researcher will not sell either...anything that portrays Asians in a good light will not sell, despite the "model minority" stereotype.
Asian American Male
Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 09:27:09 (PST)
i think this roger guy doesn't get out much, or else he's in denial.
SIGH! i tire of these overanalyzing evry sentence games on the net.
if people don't believe the eating disorder problem, then i really can't get much else through can i? talk to any sociologist/psychiatrist and you'll see that eating disorders have MANY forms AND manifestations OTHER than extreme clinical cases which most likely is your 2% figure. (and BTW what the bloody name of god do brits have to do with US studies?)
"For the final time, how can that be when AFs typically have extensive contact with AMs, and images of AMs in the media -- disparaging, flattering, or neutral -- are uncommon?"
and for the final time as well, can you also back up YOUR claim about extensive contact? how many people in YOUR work-place/neighborhood do you know about their favorite food or show size? it's all like the segregation issue again, you can see people without knowing people. and you've probably noticed (if not yourself) how many times do people really stand up to bigotry and put-downs in everyday lives? most cases negative remarks are spewed and set to brew in the subconscious for quite awhile. don't *bleep* tell me you haven't seen AM called the too often "ching-chong." you need to go elsewhere if you are trully ignorant of these issues. you can be in contact with people everyday and know zelch about or want to have anything to do with them.
and likewise you've not yet proven your point about media influences in asia. are you even aware of the anglicizing of the world's media? it's not difficult to realize that an asian image does not mean "asianess." anglicized japanese pop culture is well documented and i won't waste time lecturing here about the "whitening" of world media.
(no more from me if you still don't get this media influence biz)
it is REIFICATION to think that media causes human behavior. media don't do diddly-squat, but it is people who carry out actions. media influences people to the extent by portraying social norms and "values." as it is our mass-consumer society's method of ENCULTURATION. media is not alive and do not act for people. people make decisions based on socially accepted norms (duh!) and of course media is the purveyor. how do kids all believe in santa clause if the media does not perpetuate the social normative "big fat red guy?" how can the media do not influence behavior patterns? now go take some advertising course and learn all about it.
and PS, you still do not understand the "DIVIDE" so please saying others do not understand you. like i've already stated, who cares about "interracial" marriages? it is the DENIGRATION of AM that is the divide. what's so hard to understand about asian "war brides" and media influence of the "sellout" phenomena? madama butterfly/miss saigon anyone? you're probably aware the roots of "selling out" from colonialism/conquests, right?
and i will not respond anymore to this topic on this board.
unapologetically,
villageidiot
Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 02:47:54 (PST)
It's true to an extent that the media reflects what the masses want to see. On the other hand, the media also plays a role in establishing trends and influencing taste, moods, etc. Put it another way, a racist television program may reinforce a person's perspective that animosity towards one race is acceptable, etc.
aaa
Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 22:22:13 (PST)
re: filipinos outmarrying
filipinos are not a pure-blood race so whether or not they outmarry is not an issue. Besides, filipinos are not considered asian - check the application for any college they are in a seperate category.
flip boy
Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 14:23:11 (PST)
Time to Ignore the Trolls posts: "Perhaps more telling than linking the supposedly "low" 2% occurrence of eating disorders with media images is... ."
@Time to Ignore the Trolls:
It is precisely the alleged causal link between the rare images of AMs in the media and the perceptions AFs supposedly have of AMs that my question concerns.
I don't know if your post is addressed to me, but let me point out that the thread isn't really about eating disorders, and the analogy to eating disorders wasn't mine. Someone else brought it up. I merely criticized it's usefulness as an explanation of the issue did I raise. The eating disorder analogy isn't any help. If anything, I think it helps to refute the contention I took issue with.
In any event, I hope you don't mean to attribute to me the position that "someone without an eating disorder is automatically self content." For what it's worth, I don't believe that, didn't say that, nor is it inferable from anything I did say.
The explication I give in my post addressed to Villageidiot, just below your post, is about the best I can do. Maybe it will help more people to understand the specific question I actually posed. I can't think of too many more ways to say the same thing.
Roger
Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 12:14:11 (PST)
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