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ASIAN AMERICAN ISSUES
IS THE AA GENDER DIVIDE REAL?
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Wednesday, Jan 22, 2025, 06:38:55 AM)
sian American women are abandoning AA men by the millions. Young AA women seek out any race of men but their own. Women like Amy Tan write books and make movies that dump on AA men and glorify Asian women in relationships with white men.
That's the perception of many AA men.
On what do they blame this state of affairs? Brainwashing by media that play up white men while cutting Asian men off at the knees. Desire for payback by AA women who feel slighted by their families and Asian society. Large numbers of non-Asian men with blind fetishes for Asian women. Some even acknowledge that Asian men are often too fixed in their ideas of how a woman should look and behave, causing many AF to feel devalued.
Other Asian Americans see AF outmarriage rates as merely a natural state of affairs for a 4% minority population that includes many recent immigrants. The outmarriage gender gap will narrow as growing Asian population centers provide ready access to bigger pools of singles. Besides outmarriage is't the same as rejecting one's racial identity, they argue. Many AF who outmarry retain strong identification with their Asian identity.
Is there really an Asian American gender divide? Is so, what's behind it? If not, what's behind the perception?
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Conspiracy against the Asian Race 1
They're out to get us because they ARE threatened by us. It's media propaganda being used by everyone around us. The government is also behind it. They enlisted my help as an asian man with a Beautiful Mind to fight against the commies and then stabbed me in the back. During my government work, I saw articles with secret codes conspiring against the asian man. Now they are after our women! not to worry. my game theory will thwart their plan!
John Nashyoki
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 10:08:55 (PST)
Who cares??!! If an AF marries an non-Asian, their kids are no longer Asian. Come on! We all know the deal!!! The kid's heritage, in Asian society (and in almost ALL cultures that I've read or know about), is based on their father's heritage. So, if a child's father is, for example, White, and their mother is Asian... Seriously, how many of us would consider, for example, a Steve McDowell, of mixed ancestry, to be Asian? None of us! Asians don't treat them as Asian and non-Asians don't treat them like themselves. In a sense, they're somewhere in between. They can't fit into either cultures. Look around. There's a bunch of them in "Asian festivals." What you see is that, usually, mixed people date other mixed people. Have you ever wondered why? The reason is that they aren't really Asian and they're not really non-Asian! The same thing is true in my family. My cousin's father is Chinese and their mother is Irish. But, my Chinese side of the family treats them as a novelty...they consider them White. The Irish side considers them Chinese! All four kids neither look Irish nor Chinese...they look Hispanic! When I asked them what they considered themselves once, they replied: "I'm half Chinese, half Irish, and All-American." Put it this way, their culture, race, and self-identity died right there.
And, in regards to Jews and Asians, the woman usually has to convert. Whether or not she converts to Judaism, see the above... Her Asian culture, lineage, etc. dies. Now, she's Jewish. Her kids? See above. Not Jewish. Not Asian. A bit of both. But, none of anything.
Once a Sell-Out..but no more.
Monday, February 25, 2002 at 21:03:36 (PST)
To Neither asian nor white, just objective viewer ,
I was shocked about the outcome as well. I thought she would pick the Asian guy. IMHO, he has way better qualities, and lot cuter too. On the flip side, at least attractive Asians slowly emerged in MTV...
Jo-Jo
Monday, February 25, 2002 at 14:28:09 (PST)
"The conspiracy is from men of other races. Other races hate the AM because of jealousy."
What jealousy?
"I'm not sure where the conpiracy originated from, but somewhere, some group is trying to kill off the Asian race."
Next to impossible. Too many of us around the world.
"I will always want to marry an Asian Female even if I can marry a girl outside of my race. I'm proud of my race. I want my kids to look fully Asian. I want them to look like me or their mother. I want them to have straight black hair and almond shaped kind of slanted dark brown eyes. Tan brownish yellowish skin. Slim, slender and well built, about 5'8" HEEHAAAAWOW."
Sounds like you are a white American, just substituting the word "Asian" for "white". Most white Americans think like this.
"Think about it, if a good looking AM hooks up with a good looking AF, their child would be like a god or goddes wouldn't it? I'm not worried, it's the AF that are missing out on the AM."
Only if you marry non-Chinese Asians. The offsprings of Intra-Asian marriages are the best looking.
Asian
Monday, February 25, 2002 at 13:00:13 (PST)
Ellery,
Besides being a Brit, who has not realised the Euro is in effect and the shilling is long gone. What's your position? That we forgot to make fun of the nice Asian guy with the dorky WF.
Hannybunbun,
Love is a series of neurochemical reactions caused by naturally occuring amphetamines in the body. Human will develop natural tolerance to the stimulus of the amphetamines in about 7 years (i.e. 7 year itch). You had a child so you are off the amphetamine high and into another group of hormone induced highs. These hormone induce high are a lot more powerful than those induced by the amphetamines. So chances of a pyschological addition to the stimlus is much more likely.
So love from a biochemical stand point is just like substance addiction. And humans can kick the habit, suffer withdrawl symptoms, if they choose to. So love is no more stronger or weaker than nicotine, caffine, or cocaine addition in an individual.
Hence, at any given time your Chinese man can just find another stimulus (women) to get addicted (love).
AC Dropout
Monday, February 25, 2002 at 11:28:34 (PST)
>The asian girl thanked the asian guy
>for being a nice guy who was romantic,
>respectful, and attentive. She then
>acknowledged the white guy was brash,
>aggressive, and cocky in his attitude.
>Then she proceeded to DISMISS the
>asian guy, and choose to go on with
>the white guy.
I'm not denying that race might have been a factor in her decision, but I think that this has more to do with attitude. Typical "nice guy" vs "jerk" thing.
In my experience, most young women say they want a man that treats them the way the Asian guy in your post did, but when the time comes to choose who they want to hook up with sexually most of them always choose the "bad boy". I don't know why, but there are a lot of things women assume about "bad boys", one of them being that they are more "fun" and better in the sack.
The only time that most women seem want a "nice guy" is when it's time to get married and get a provider. Even then, I'd rather be the "other guy" than a chump provider that's probably going to get cheated on anyway, thank you very much. :-\
-Notty Boy
orgazm_donor@hotmail.com
Monday, February 25, 2002 at 10:09:16 (PST)
Has anyone here read "Shanghai's Bao Bei" It was written by a Jiaotung Da Xue
female graduate. The author is basically a Chinese counterpart of Connie Chung and Amy Tan. The novel stirred up quite a controversy in the Chinese communities, both overseas and local. The author reflects herself in the character "CoCo" who is self-hating, white-washed, and infidel. She hates herself for being short, cheats on her drug-addicted boyfriend with a Western expatriate and tries to legitimize it, and wishes she could "conquer" white men as Gong Li did on the silver screen without speaking English.
After having read this book half-way, I worry that this gender divide might be extending beyond local Asian American to the old country.
FOP
Monday, February 25, 2002 at 10:06:35 (PST)
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