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ASIAN AMERICAN ISSUES
IS THE AA GENDER DIVIDE REAL?
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Wednesday, Jan 22, 2025, 06:38:55 AM)
sian American women are abandoning AA men by the millions. Young AA women seek out any race of men but their own. Women like Amy Tan write books and make movies that dump on AA men and glorify Asian women in relationships with white men.
    
That's the perception of many AA men.
    
On what do they blame this state of affairs? Brainwashing by media that play up white men while cutting Asian men off at the knees. Desire for payback by AA women who feel slighted by their families and Asian society. Large numbers of non-Asian men with blind fetishes for Asian women. Some even acknowledge that Asian men are often too fixed in their ideas of how a woman should look and behave, causing many AF to feel devalued.
    
Other Asian Americans see AF outmarriage rates as merely a natural state of affairs for a 4% minority population that includes many recent immigrants. The outmarriage gender gap will narrow as growing Asian population centers provide ready access to bigger pools of singles. Besides outmarriage is't the same as rejecting one's racial identity, they argue. Many AF who outmarry retain strong identification with their Asian identity.
    
Is there really an Asian American gender divide? Is so, what's behind it? If not, what's behind the perception?
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Jo-Jo:
yea, the thing I found most disconcerning was that she seemed to really like the perosnality and actions of the asian guy during the whole show, then to go 180 degrees at the conclusion was a bit of a shock and rather telling in my opinion. That's how I saw it anyway.
neither white nor asian
  
Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 08:24:11 (PST)
John Nashyoki:
Get over it. We are more than half the world's population! No game theory needed. Just some simple numerical analysis.
Asian American Male
  
Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 06:58:00 (PST)
To Once a Sell Out, but no more..and all other discriminating fools who are quick at judging others, but not strong enough to see their own faults:
I must say you are absolutely ridiculous and a disgrace to the human race. First of all...our nation is unique and highly regarded because we are represented by various ethnicity. Diversity helps us to be open-minded, to grow in our understanding of ourselves as well as others, and to be appreciative of who we are and what we can be. For this reason, DIVERSITY AND MIXED HERITAGE SHOULD BE CELEBRATED!!!
Secondly, we become as we are treated. You said, "a kid's heritage is based on their father's heritage." A kid's heritage may be viewed this way because they carry their father's family name...not necessarily b/c they feel a stronger bond with their father's heritage. However, the most powerful factor that affect a child's identity..is how they are perceived. It is ignorant fools, such as yourself, who judge people for the color (in this case, multiple colors) of their skin...that contribute to these people's sense of disconnection. The lesson you should learn here -- look at yourself, before you point fingers.
Thirdly, people of multiple ethnicity are the most beautiful people in this world...partially white or not!!
And last but not least...they are more unique than many of us who are not multicultural, because they possess understanding of ALL of their ethnicities. You said:
"When I asked them what they considered themselves once, they replied: 'I'm half Chinese, half Irish, and All-American.' Put it this way, their culture, race, and self-identity died right there."
Because of this statement, I possess the right to officially label you as a RACIST IDIOT. Their culture, race, and identity died in YOUR eyes..only because you wanted to believe it. From their response, i sense a person who is proud of their heritages...and in no way did these people's cultures "died"..it did something much more beautiful..it expanded!!!
In conclusion, the only person who is neglecting themselves of their culture here is YOU! Look in the mirror, and honestly ask yourself why you are harboring such unnecessary resentment.
be
  
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 23:47:47 (PST)
Have you guys seen the movie 'The Arts of War?' by Wesley Snipes.
The movie is based on a 2000-year-old book of the same name. The book was written by Chinese scholars. Believe it or not, all top US military schools require students to read this book.
One theory from this book details one way to attack the enemy is attack the enemy from within...
This is exactly what is happening right now if Asians keep marrying to White people. Eventually, asians will flourish in this country. There will be more asians than whites. Asians will run this country and asians then can discrimminate other races.
This is one way asians will and can attack white people by attack them from within.
junkie
  
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 23:14:01 (PST)
To everyone here talking about this and that. Here's the reality. White males ARE threatened by Asian men. Asian men are for the majority, financially well off, hard-working, and respectfull. That's why white guy's stereotype us with every single stereotype a person can think of to be unattractive eg. short, weak, small dicked..etc. and this is also why asian guy's are RARELY shown in the media as romantic interests of white girls cause guess what? White guy's own the media of this society. That people, is reality for you.
chinese exclusion act
  
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 21:37:33 (PST)
DO you want to know the real truth about the so called gender divide?? It is real but at the same time it is constructed and not a natural outcome. The gender divide exists and thrives in the minds of white/Jewish males the most. And since they are the ones in power, they have the ability to influence the Asian American population and make them hip to thier agenda. Lets look at the term for a moment.."gender divide". This means that their is a social and romantic division between the sexes of the same race. In this case the Asian it is the race. It is not in the interest of a white male to see an Asian female, whom he desires, to mainly date Asian men. This leaves him out of the sexual loop with Asian females and all men are driven by a desire to have a high amount of option when it comes to dating. So the result is a cultural disinformation campaign to bring a wedge between the Asian male and female thus greatly increasing the white males chances to nail the Asian female. Many converted Asian females are assisting in this campaign as well ( Amy Tan, Lucy Liu, Connie Chung etc. etc.). They perpetuate myths of Asian male brutality, Asian male undesirablity and the painless ease of complete assimilation into white culture.
The only loss or gain that is made is a loss of mates for Asian males and increase in the mates for white males. The Asian female also vastly improves her dating pool by hopping the fence but in most cases this desire to hop was the result of pre-conditioning.
In the end what has become evident from Asian and white male friends I have known is that Asian males tend to feel slighted, undesirable and a bit betrayed by thier women, while white have become increasingly confident in thier ability to easily get an Asian women because the Asian women are in love with thier whiteness thus making them easy romantic targets.
Turk
  
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 13:13:00 (PST)
AC Dropout,
I couldn't resist the sale and leave a few more of my worthless Austrian shillings. My position is that we should realize (with a 'z' borrowed from the Colonies) that neither white women with Asian men, Asian women with white men, nor couples of any interracial background - deserve any more scorn, countenance or regard than those couples of a monoracial makeup. Accept them as people, first and foremost.
And I am not British, though Her Majesty may be uncomfortable with this.
Cheers,
Ellery
  
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 12:24:29 (PST)
Once a Sell-Out..but no more,
"Her Asian culture, lineage, etc. dies. Now, she's Jewish"
Oh that is so stupid. Most Jews who married Asian women are not much of a Jew. Pete sake who ever heard of a Asian women give up sea food and pork for a man. And there is no way a Jew is going to settle down with a Asian women that is a strict Buddists. In those relationship the Jew is marginal Jew and the asian is a marginal asian. In your analysis the Jew is also a sell out for going with the asian female.
Most Hapa I know, excluding those from Hawaii, are pretty mal-adjusted. It's not like they have a bunch of Hapa friends to grow up with.
AC Dropout
  
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 11:40:31 (PST)
John Nashyoki,
Care to define the value system to the game theory you are proposing.
AC Dropout
  
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 11:26:46 (PST)
FOP,
Those books are so stupid. Like San Mao in Taiwan. Like Sha Jiu (Sand Pig). Like the Japanese book of Sex Guide in Taipei/Beijing.
They are of little significance in the overall scheme of things. It is not like it is a classic in Chinese modern literature.
If HK make a movie/tv series. out of it, then I be a little worried.
If it is causing that must commotion in China, I'm surprise they have kicked her out of the country yet. Some of the Best Chinese Authors have been kick out of China
AC Dropout
  
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 11:25:37 (PST)
It is too bad that prejudice can be used as an example for pride for a race. My Jewish mother and Dutch father were traitors to their race because they fell in love and married, according to alot of the postings here. Also, love is far more complex and beautiful then to break it down into a bunch of chemical reactions. If love was only a series of chemical reactions, then I guess I could have fallen in love with any man I met? Funny how it does not happen that way, because I did not. I only fell in love with my husband. I guess there is more to love than just a bunch of scientific terms. I am sorry that prejudice still reigns behind a thin veil disguised as racial pride. And our son is considered Asian as well as Dutch American. He learns about both cultures and languages, and I hope he never encounters a bitter person unsure of their own culture that dares to tell him he is neither. He is both.
Hannybunbun
  
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 11:19:08 (PST)
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