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IS THE AA GENDER DIVIDE REAL?
(Updated Wednesday, Jan 22, 2025, 06:38:55 AM)

sian American women are abandoning AA men by the millions. Young AA women seek out any race of men but their own. Women like Amy Tan write books and make movies that dump on AA men and glorify Asian women in relationships with white men.
     That's the perception of many AA men.
     On what do they blame this state of affairs? Brainwashing by media that play up white men while cutting Asian men off at the knees. Desire for payback by AA women who feel slighted by their families and Asian society. Large numbers of non-Asian men with blind fetishes for Asian women. Some even acknowledge that Asian men are often too fixed in their ideas of how a woman should look and behave, causing many AF to feel devalued.
     Other Asian Americans see AF outmarriage rates as merely a natural state of affairs for a 4% minority population that includes many recent immigrants. The outmarriage gender gap will narrow as growing Asian population centers provide ready access to bigger pools of singles. Besides outmarriage is't the same as rejecting one's racial identity, they argue. Many AF who outmarry retain strong identification with their Asian identity.
     Is there really an Asian American gender divide? Is so, what's behind it? If not, what's behind the perception?

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Hi junkie,
well actually the "theory" won't work. First off when a Asian and a White marry, the offspring becomes both Asian and White. So that simple point alone should tell you that the child of the union will be embracing both races. I know, I am bi-cultural, and now our son is also.
As for calling white people the "enemy", perhaps that in itself is a racist comment and is a discriminating one. America is celebrated for its diversity,as the person 'Be' posted. I have had prejudice against me by Chinese people because of I am white but my goal is to let them see who I am and experience my culture as I do the same and learn about the Chinese culture. See racism and prejudice may be prevelant with most other races, but it also touches "white" races also. Your letter proved that alone. Ignorance breeds paranoia and hate. If someone hates white people so very much, perhaps if they are not strong enough to face and challenge their prejudices and racist views and lend a positive hand to educating people about their race and culture , maybe they should move to a country that has less white people, to make themselves more comfortable.
Hannybunbun
   Thursday, February 28, 2002 at 05:09:28 (PST)
"To everyone here talking about this and that. Here's the reality. White males ARE threatened by Asian men. Asian men are for the majority, financially well off, hard-working, and respectfull. That's why white guy's stereotype us with every single stereotype a person can think of to be unattractive eg. short, weak, small dicked..etc. and this is also why asian guy's are RARELY shown in the media as romantic interests of white girls cause guess what? White guy's own the media of this society. That people, is reality for you.
chinese exclusion act"

Everyone wants to blame it on the media. Even if WMs were threatened, I don't think they do anymore. Almost all famous AFs are with WMs, and it seems to me the more attractive, educated AFs are morely likely to be with WMs. Don't you guys think since we come from a more conservative culture, AFs are more likely to accept a date, AMs are less likely to ask for a date, so the imbalance of interracial dating is expected. If AMs are more aggressive, then things would be fine. Most AFs I know, even the ones with WMs, would gladly go out with a AM, provided he is aggressive, confident. I know so many AFs who tell me that they rarely get approached by AMs. Most AMs are too damn shy.

AA
   Thursday, February 28, 2002 at 04:54:45 (PST)
junkie:
uh, community is generality based on commensality: shared tradition and a lot of social interaction. Mostly doesn't exist among mixed-race Asians. Hell, mostly doesn't exist among Asian Americans.

be:
"Thirdly, people of multiple ethnicity are the most beautiful people in this world"
Reasonable pride is one thing. But f I said white, black, Hakka, whatever is the most beautiful, I'd be put back in my place, and rightly so.

"And last but not least...they are more unique than many of us who are not multicultural, because they possess understanding of ALL of their ethnicities. "
How exactly is that? Not unless they actually speak the language and can function in the culture. I don't understand Armenians, Germans, or Filipinos. If this were true, I guess we should all understand African people since we're descended from them, right?

AC dropout:
Yeah, and as a result, the kid is neither Jewish nor Asian, but is likely to be raised to go about demanding "acceptance and celebration" from Jews whose customs he doesn't know about and Asians whose customs he doesn't know about. Next Jew-Chinese mix I meet who speaks both Hebrew and Chinese will be the first.
T.H. Lien
   Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 19:26:01 (PST)
AC Dropout

"If HK make a movie/tv series. out of it, then I be a little worried."

Knock on the woood.

The book was banned in China, but published in Taiwan. She did not get kicked out by China. Guess China starts tolerating defiant speeches. =)
FOP
   Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 18:41:54 (PST)
Not many good looking people would promote hatred towards others. Only the very ugly ones. It's called the snowball effect. Their parents hate them for being ugly. Their social lives are non-existent. People dislike them because of their miserable attitude. They can't look in the mirror. Why should they? Only hideous looking creatures would be staring back at them. One feeds off the other. Nothing could make the ugly ones feel better about themselves. Ugly inside and out. It's only logical that the ugly ones are to be avoided by females. There's no gender divide. It's a concept made up by people who cannot admit to their own physical and mental shortcomings.
therealtruth
   Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 17:12:43 (PST)
Ellery,

Argh....a down under Aussie...should of known. Don't go back, the UK royal family is inbred.

Under most circumstances I would agree with your position.

But here many AM are complaining that the AF they know to be in interracial, have an self image issue that drives them away from AM in western society. In addition, these relationship may lead to children, where the AF may propogate her views into the next generation.
AC dropout
   Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 16:38:18 (PST)
Hannybunbun,

Love is pretty simple a chemical reaction and your hypothesis is correct. If you grew up somewhere else and did not meet you husband you would have been in "love" with someone else. How else do you explain 5 billion people on this planet. They are not all products of rape you know.

As for love being beautiful, I agree. But it is no more beautiful or ugly as as an LSD trip, if you think about. Of course the LSD biochemically speaking is a lot more simpler than "love," but the jist of the point should be clear.

As for this whole traitor thing...that more socialogical. By Jewish law your a Jew and so is your kid, that whole maternal lineage thing you know. Do you eat pork and shellfish by the way? Did your mom eat pork and shellfish? Not that dietary habits is a reflection social views. But I'll hazard a guess that both you and your mother were moderate/liberal Jews.

AC dropout
   Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 16:29:36 (PST)
junkie,

Have you read the "art of war." It's in classical chinese, I doubt there are very few posters on this forum who can even read the stuff.

But if you just take the by line from a movie as some sort of social anaylsis your are sorely mistaken.

The strategy you suggest is out line in chapter 13 of the "Art of War," Spying. But the problem is that who are we asians spying for.

I think you should read chapter 5 about conflict, it is pretty famous. Some game theory about concept about success being dependent on knowing self and the opponent.
AC dropout
   Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 16:17:37 (PST)
To Asian Males:

Have you experienced this? You're in a public place walking down the street, or in a classroom etc. and this white looking guy gives you a dirty look with a sneer on his lips. You don't even know him and have never talked to him, but he just gives you this attitude. Sometimes they'll say something offensive to you like, "I hate Japanese people, or I hate Chinese People" without knowing what is your real ethnicity.

What is their problem? Is it racism? Why are some white people racist? Do they really think that God is white with blond hair and blue eyes? Why is there the idea of White Supremacy?

By the way, type up the words White Supremacy in a search engine and you will find lots of info about it.

There is Justice in this Universe.

The sea constantly cleans itself of wastes.

You reap what you sow.

God is not White
   Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 12:49:00 (PST)
"First of all...our nation is unique and highly regarded because we are represented by various ethnicity."

True. But race is in the back of everyone's minds. You know how many times the race of a minority was repeated during the winter olympics. I counted 44 and I barely watched 25%.

"Diversity helps us to be open-minded, to grow in our understanding of ourselves as well as others, and to be appreciative of who we are and what we can be."

Obviously has not helped the individuals you are responding to. It has not helped 75% of white America either. Why do you think whites flee from Richmond, CA to Littleton, CO and the surrounding areas. To escape from Asians, and the fear that their sons may run after Asian women.

"DIVERSITY AND MIXED HERITAGE SHOULD BE CELEBRATED!!!"

I totally agree although mixed heritage is mostly despised by many Americans, with the whites leading the way.

You said, "a kid's heritage is based on their father's heritage."

The Asian version of bigotry, our equivalent of the one drop rule.

"However, the most powerful factor that affect a child's identity..is how they are perceived. It is ignorant fools, such as yourself, who judge people for the color (in this case, multiple colors) of their skin...that contribute to these people's sense of disconnection. The lesson you should learn here -- look at yourself, before you point fingers."

He sounds like the reincarnation of the Supreme Court Justice Harlan, who ruled in favor of segregation back in 1896.

"Thirdly, people of multiple ethnicity are the most beautiful people in this world...partially white or not!!"

Judgement call.

"Because of this statement, I possess the right to officially label you as a RACIST IDIOT."

You can label 50% of AA community and 75% of white Americans the same.

Asian American Male
   Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 10:42:12 (PST)

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