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ASIAN AMERICAN ISSUES
IS THE AA GENDER DIVIDE REAL?
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Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008, 06:05:47 PM)
sian American women are abandoning AA men by the millions. Young AA women seek out any race of men but their own. Women like Amy Tan write books and make movies that dump on AA men and glorify Asian women in relationships with white men.
That's the perception of many AA men.
On what do they blame this state of affairs? Brainwashing by media that play up white men while cutting Asian men off at the knees. Desire for payback by AA women who feel slighted by their families and Asian society. Large numbers of non-Asian men with blind fetishes for Asian women. Some even acknowledge that Asian men are often too fixed in their ideas of how a woman should look and behave, causing many AF to feel devalued.
Other Asian Americans see AF outmarriage rates as merely a natural state of affairs for a 4% minority population that includes many recent immigrants. The outmarriage gender gap will narrow as growing Asian population centers provide ready access to bigger pools of singles. Besides outmarriage isn't the same as rejecting one's racial identity, they argue. Many AF who outmarry retain strong identification with their Asian identity.
Is there really an Asian American gender divide? Is so, what's behind it? If not, what's behind the perception?
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Book Review,
What's wrong with Michelle Malkin's new book Invasion? Are you suggesting attempts to prevent a repeat of 9/11 is somehow selling out? Is the proper and anointed Asian American view the destruction of America? By the way, why are their (Michelle Malkin and Jan Ting) mindsets dangerous to Asian AMERICANS? Do you think Asian AMERICANS are not part of America?
Deng Ai
Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 08:33:56 (PDT)
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AC Dropout wrote:
"My turn to be annoying."
"Without hard numbers or proof, this is only but a perspective from an individual observer."
"How big was the population you observe? What timeframe was the observation made? How were sampling categorized? Any primary sources to aid in your research?
You should at least post a protocol of your observation.
Acedemic rigor is necessary, less you enjoy pushing air on this forum."
Well, of course this is my persepctive, who else' would it be? But when I do make a factual claim, I do often accompany it with a link to the source. In the past you have repeatedly said you didn't believe in statistics when confronted with them. Ironically, you cited a statistic that 25% of Asians are undercounted in the census to bolster you argument that statistics were unreliable. After much wrangling, you now admit it's really 2%, not 25% as you claimed earlier. So are you now having a change of heart regarding statistics? If so, I'll gladly repost the links you have ignored in the past. Look, I was not asking you to conduct an academic research on this topic. When you posted a peculiar claim that 25% of Asians are undercounted, I simply asked where you got the number from. Is that so annoying and unreasonable?
Deng Ai
Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 08:11:12 (PDT)
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By the way. I have more love and respect for AF's than WF's. That is just my opinion.
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Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 07:35:48 (PDT)
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Actually, to be honest, the gender divide among Asians is not as acute to that compared to blacks. For example in my college, if a black guy is seen with a white or Hispanic girl, the black women and white/Hispanic guys stare at these couples and try to make it uncomfortable for them.
When I dated Latinas, their men and the girls' families were more accepting and some even said if I was black, they wouldn't allow their daughter going out with me.
Then, also, there were few if any Asian females who gave me the nasty stares when I was walking with Mexican and one Arab girl in my experiences.
I think Asian women do not have anything against us Asian men dating and marrying out our race, because they realize not many of us do and it would be good to see some positive change.
It will soon even out
Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 23:54:00 (PDT)
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"Just look at Geoff who stated how his very own sister is so insecure of blonde white females with blue eyes, and obviously has low self esteem about herself and wishes that she were white."
You misunderstood my post, guy. I have three sisters. These are not self-hating black women.
My sisters wouldn't mind if I date an Asian or Hispanic or Native American women. They don't want me to marry a white woman, because they think I'm too good for a white lady. They want me to marry an attractive, intelligent black woman, but any woman of color would be better than a white woman, in their opinion.
I DO NOT share their belief. True love has no racial barrier.
Geoff DB
GeoffDB02@aol.com
Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 19:38:57 (PDT)
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"Most people of all races seem to want to be with whites, but some groups like Asians, Middle Easterners and Mexicans almost totally shun blacks as marriage and dating partners."
Very true. Yet, these are the same people who when they're getting their ass kicked by white racists and subjected to racial profiled draw parallels with black experience. I say to hell with them. I get enough play. You can't have sex with every beautiful person.
Anyway, back on topic.
"I find it abhorringly unnatural to be NOT attracted to your own kind."
I know some of the reasons why many Asian, white and Hispanic women don't want to date black guys (bad media images, racial stereotypes and ghetto black guys).
Have you ever really sat down and considered some of the possible reasons why many Asian women - who grow up with Asian guys, thereby, are not necessarily exposed only to negative media images - prefer to date men of other races?
Could it be attitude? How about Asian guys feeling that Asian women BELONG to them? How about sense of superiority?
I'm just thinking out loud.
Women are VERY perceptive. I'm just thinking about the guy Handsome Playboy who I had a discussion with the other day. He seems to think that his sense of superiority and overwhelming good looks does not come across in his attitude. That's simply dreaming.
If Asian guys approach Asian women like you are entitled to them or that they should be compelled to love you, then doesn't it make sense that many Asian women would be turned off by this attitude and seek comfort elsewhere?
Geoff DB
GeoffDB02@aol.com
Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 19:04:41 (PDT)
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"Here's something that just might shock you but some people just might be dating people of other races because they're actually in love with them."
This is entirely possible when a person loves a certain race. So then the first requirement is met; that they be of a particular race. Then we can proceed to other matters like looks, personality, background and other things.
Asian Brother
Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 12:34:26 (PDT)
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Fool wrote:
"You should appropriately mention this *important* tidbit in every one of your posts as a disclaimer.
That way, you can do society a favor and we can all ignore your bitching."
It seems you are still unable to ignore me.
Deng Ai
Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 10:13:57 (PDT)
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Political Observer wrote:
"You have to image how someone can get so screwed up in their thing. I'll have to blame alot of it on the media but a great deal of the blame has to be placed on their uppity girlfriends and close associates."
What about themselves? AFs happen to be the most educated, most upwardly mobile female group in the US. Are you suggesting they are not savvy enough to decide what they want?
Deng Ai
Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 10:09:49 (PDT)
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