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TAIWAN INDEPENDENCE
OR UNIFICATION?

(Updated Wednesday, Jan 22, 2025, 06:38:55 AM)

he most pressing Asian foreign policy issue currently faced by the U.S. is the Taiwan question. The email we receive in reaction to our articles relating to this issue suggests that it's an emotional one for many of our readers. Perhaps one reason for the emotion is the fact that the issue isn't amenable to an easy or simple solution.
     The first historical mention of Taiwan appears to have been when Portugese traders found it to be a resting place on their journey to Japan and named it Isla Formosa. Beijing's claim to Taiwan dates back to the 16th century when a Chinese general fought off the Portugese to claim the island for the emperor. In 1895 the expansion-minded Japanese annexed it after defeating China in a war on the Corean peninsula. China briefly reestablished sovereignty over Taiwan following Japan's defeat in August of 1945.
     At the time the official government of China, as recognized by most nations of the world, was under the control of the Kuomingtang headed by Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek. He was engaged in a desperate war against Mao Tse-tung's peasant army. Despite billions of dollars of aid by the U.S. based mainly on intensely partisan reporting by Henry Luce's Time/Life empire, the spectacularly corrupt Chiang lost that war and fled to Taiwan with 2.5 million followers.

     He established the present government of Taiwan on December 7, 1949 and proclaimed it the sole legitimate government of all China. Mao made the same claim. The claims competed until 1971 when it became clear to most of the world that Mao's was more persuasive. Taiwan was kicked out of the UN. The Beijing government took its place as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, a seat given in recognition of China's role in fighting Japan in World War II.
     Mired in its own misguided war in Vietnam, and intensely fearful of anything red, the U.S. was one of the last nations to recognize the legitimacy of Mao's government. In 1972 Richard Nixon made his historic journey to Beijing. In 1976 the U.S. took the next step by recognizing the People's Republic as China's sole legitimate government. It began pursuing the "One China, One Taiwan" policy under which official diplomatic contacts were exclusively with Beijing but continued to sell billions of dollars a year of fighter jets, helicopters, tanks and missiles to Taiwan to help defend against a possible Chinese effort to refunify by force.
     In 1997 President Clinton declared a "strategic partnership" with Beijing over intense Republican objections. It was an astute recognition of the fact that China's 1.2 billion people must be accorded a central place in U.S. foreign policy. But the historic, moral and economic ties that bind the U.S. to Taiwan's 23 million people stand squarely in the way of cutting off arms sales and renouncing the pact under which the U.S. obliged itself to come to Taiwan's defense in the event of attack by China. That U.S. pledge and continuing arms sales continue to inflame Beijing to periodic bursts of violent anti-U.S. rhetoric.
     Taiwan has been a domocracy since 1989 when it legalized opposition parties. It held its first democratic presidential elections in 1990. Lee Teng-hui handily won to keep the presidency which he had originally gained in 1988. Lee won again in 1996. Since 1997 he began efforts to warm up relations with Beijing by agreeing to enter into negotiations under a "One-China" framework with an eye toward eventual reunification. Beijing's leaders continued their highly successful campaign of pressuring diplomatic partners into severing ties with Taiwan. China even raised hell when Lee made a semi-surreptitious trip to New York in 1997. Since then China has scared neighborning nations like the Philippines into not allowing Lee to enter. As of 1999 Taiwan's diplomatic allies number about 18 out of about 220 nations on earth. All are tiny, impoverished Central American, African and Pacific Island nations that appreciate Taiwan's generous aid packages. Pago Pago is considered a major ally.
     Feisty Lee Teng-hui launched his own guerilla offensive in July, 1999 by declaring over German radio that Taiwan was in fact a separate state and would negotiate with Beijing on an equal footing. That sent Beijing into a tizzy. It fired off bombastic threats to take Taiwan by force and to annhilate the U.S. Navy if it intervenes. On October 18 during his British visit Chinese President Jiang Zemin assumed a softer, more relaxed tone in telling a London newspaper that China would be peacefully reunited with Taiwan under a one-nation two-systems formula by the middle of the next century. One might have expected Lee to have been relieved by that statement. Instead, he brushed it aside as "a hoax". China should try instead to set a timetable for its democratization as that was the only way to ensure reunification, sneered Lee's Mainland Affairs Council chairman Su Chi. Most polls show that a clear majority of Taiwanese prefer to maintain the status quo indefinitely rather than moving toward unification.
     Beijing's reunification mandate appears based on the idea that in winning the mainland, the Chinese people had rejected the "criminal" Kuomingtang and its right to rule any part of China. It also sees Taiwan as a galling symbol of the division wrought and preserved by western imperialists -- namely, the U.S. -- seeking to enjoy global hegemony at the expense of Chinese dignity.
     Meanwhile the U.S. remains on the hook to defend Taiwan and sell it arms though doing so keeps its relations with a quarter of humanity rocky and on edge. Under its current policy the U.S. is the asbestos firewall that keeps friction between the two sides of the Taiwan Strait from igniting into war.
     Should the U.S. continue alienating Beijing to help Taiwan protect its independence or improve relations with China by pressuring Taiwan to reunite?

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Phillipine_War_Machine,

"Let the PRC become democratic and we shall see a one China in the future."

Can't disagree with this. This would be the eventual goal, but it's gonna take a lot of time for the CCP to kick that one through the goal posts. Not helping matters any further is that Chen Shui-bian is apparently having some difficulty deciding how to behave.

"Though some of the US politicians who want Taiwan to be independent are perhaps scared of the notion that a united China will have access to the pacific which would give them military "power projection" capabilities. This is because China, as long as its coastline is, has a limited number of sea ports, and adding an island as big as Taiwan would enhance their reach. Especially now since they are reverse engineering Russian and Ukrainian aircraft carriers to make their own. China already has a license to produce their own Su-27s, including carrier borne versions.

And yes, their airforce (PLAAF) has been monitored as already PRACTICING carrier take offs and landings on military airfields on the mainland."

I'm not too worried about this, personally. I've operated helicopters off of Perry-class frigates in the relatively calm expanse of the Arabian Sea, and it's still no cakewalk.

The Chinese have a very spotty record at being able to reverse-engineer complex items...and a carrier is more than just a really big boat. You're looking at years needed to understand why certain structures work the way they do, not to mention determine the manufacturing tolerances required.

Also, just having a carrier or two does not necessarily mean the PRC will have an "instant-on" force projection package. The carrier(s) will have to be sustained while at sea, will have to be protected, and will have to be able to master "zone coverage." A CVG is much more than just a flattop with a bunch of fighters on the deck.


I think the CCP military leadership is also making a mistake in this particular rush. They have no certifiable blue water doctrine, and I'm uncertain they have a viable littoral doctrine, as well.

I'm just an Army guy who's gone feet wet for several months, so I'm no expert. Any real Navy personnel here who can add some genuine opex to this?
Apache Driver    Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 14:42:23 (PDT)    [67.84.132.190]
AC

thats Lichee. The fruit you were talking about. I had some when I was a little kid, tasted weird. I liked the juice though.

Huu.

Well the americans are helping china modernize her forces. The spectacular performance during the gulf war by the US, helped china realize her deficiencies.

China has modernized a lot studying US tactics in iraq. I hope US does not attack iraq, just kill saddam.

Remember the US bombing of chinese embassy? well apparently one of the cruise missiles didnt go off. Now china has successfully reversed engineered it. The tomahawk. ohhh weeee. China renamed it "hong niao" red bird.

FYI: you can pretend you are white all day long. But wont do ya one iota of good. LOL. Besides, remember technically you are not even naturalized US citizen. Talking BS about your own country. Thats classy. But I do admit, you are good at kissing white azz.
SOG    Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 14:31:36 (PDT)    [216.239.163.210]
huu76,

If USA attack Iraq, PRC would be very happy. It would mean they made a deal with the USA to abstain or vote yes in the UN security consel.

Anyways PRC is slowly supporting the attack on Iraq as their newspapers are reporting. I believe the clincher will come from next month meeting in TX with Jiang and Bush.

Depending on what deals come out of the meeting. The PRC will abstain or vote yes to attacking Iraq if the inspectors are denied.
AC Dropout    Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 14:23:44 (PDT)    [24.90.98.143]
I don't think that if tomorrow if the PRC had a democracy like the USA, we would all of a sudden see them as "strategic partners."

We would still find other issue to demonize the PRC. Just because it is human nature. Just like "Made in Taiwan" doesn't connote the most low quality in the minds of most Americans.

However, there are serious issues with Independence of Taiwan or Republic of Taiwan.

1) There are the sovergnity issues of the outer islands that make up Taiwan. Such as the Matsu, Spartley, etc. These islands are Chinese Territory based on Chinese history. If ROT exist they basically have to return the islands to China. Since they only claim ownership of the island of Taiwan. Taiwan would also have to give up fishing rights to Japan and China. Because of various outer islands they would give up their disputed claims to.

2) There is the issue of the Taiwan Relationship Act. This is basically the foreign policy which allows for USA interventions incase of military action across the straits. The TRA was original create via the China Lobby, now known as the Taiwan Lobby, in 1979 due to USA and KMT long standing allie relationship through WWII. However, this TRA is only valid with the ROC government. If the ROT does come into existance, will the TRA apply? There would be a legal loophole for the USA to rescind on defending Taiwan.

Since the TI group is so intent on demonizing the KMT party. The question could be asked if the DDP party ruled Taiwan in 1979, would the TRA even be signed.

3) Also one reason why military conflict ceased in the last 50 years is because ROC acknowledged that Taiwan was part of China. The PRC could tolerate that stance. However, once a ROT comes into existance, it will force the PRC to attack for a very simple reason. The PRC cannot lose crediable with thier own populace. Even though we mythically believe the CCP is not accountable to the people of China, that is very far from the truth concerning the Strait issue. To prevent roit situation in the PRC, they would need to honor the pledge they have given to their people and attack Taiwan.

4) Also if the ROT does come into existance. What compensation is Taiwan willing to give to China for all the artifacts and gold stolen in 1949. The artifacts are still in a museum in Taipei city for all to see. Unlike the UK, USA, and Japan that can claim them as spoils for war and negotiated peace treaties. Taiwan would be in a more dire situation because it would need to negotiate a peace treaty from a weaker postion.
AC Dropout    Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 14:19:54 (PDT)    [24.90.98.143]
"This should be kind of embarrassing for you--your apparent inability to process standard English, that is. I guess where you come from, anyone who can speak/write English has gotta be white,"

I come from the United States of America, son. And I speak and write fluently and eloquently that language they use here.

"your apparent inability to process standard English"
Yeah I guess I'm conversing in Chinese with you. How graceful of you to post idiotic attacks.
Sean    Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 12:11:14 (PDT)    [68.14.94.53]
"Just as Americans are not English, and just as Cantonese in Hong Kong proclaimed to be Cantonese and not Chinese until the dawn of 1997"

The relationship between Americans and English is a different concept from that of Cantonese in HK.
Americans are not all descended from the English, in fact the majority now aren't. HKers are all Chinese. Further, the first Americans considered themselves ethnically anglo-saxon...the same as the English.
HKers never considered themselves Cantonese. There isn't an ethnic group called Cantonese and there hasn't been any sub-ethnic groups until the Taiwanese came up with it. They still do consider themselves ethnically Chinese, geographically HKers.
HK was a part of China until the British took it. So, should every land ruled by another country ultimately be independent?
And there is always the parallel drawn between America and Taiwan. Taiwan isn't America and will probably never be like America. It is just this island beside mainland China and has never been an independent country, not even now. It was governed as an integral part of China from its political formation. The British considered America to be a colony from the start and not Britain. If every place should declare independence or form a new identity because of separation or regional differences, then there wouldn't be the end of it. We should start with the US. There are plenty of states here in the US that should do that. In fact, many of them did, and there was a bloody war.
It's really very simple to determine whether anyone should become their own country. All you have to do is ask these questions:
Is it necessary for Taiwan to declare independence and form their own ethncity? No.
Is their culture threatened by China? No, in fact the other way around.
Are their freedoms threatened by China? No, also the other way around.
Is their language threatened? No.
Are the mainland Chinese destroying Taiwan's environment and its living standard? No.
So what is independence for? To have a party?
Sean    Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 12:04:11 (PDT)    [68.14.94.53]
"Censorship in all forms of media will lead to the development of a skewed and rather off-the-wall sense of reality and history. If this is considered "better" than what the Taiwanese have done then obviously there will never be a resolution."

Did I say that? Here's that twisting again. We're in America. Get over it...no wait, we can't...this country twists like a 60's dancer too. I don't understand how American people will champion the cause of Tibet or Taiwan but never brings up Hawaii, Alaska, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Island, Guam,...Indian Reservations. These places have groups that want independence. The Hawaiians just want one little island. That's it. I never hear about these things in the media. If I bring it up, I get a lesson in how this is the land of freedom and opportunity and respect for other cultures..freedom for Eskimos to have Alaska as a U.S. state, opportunities for Indians to open casinos, respect for indigenous cultures enough to bless them with speaking English.
As for Taiwan,it it wants self-determination for all peoples, it should start with its own aboriginals, I 'm sure most of them won't mind sovereignty for their various lands, which they can rent out, charge tourists to view, or sale. Yeah keep on twisting.
Sean    Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 11:38:45 (PDT)    [68.14.94.53]
""Oh hoo, so I'm not the only one to think Apache Driver and A/H Law grad are white...."

So? I'm not the only one who thinks you're a tool frantically in search of a shed. Nothing will ever be proven."

I came to the conclusion that Apache Driver is white too, independently in my post. He writes about Asian stuff like a white guy. And what is this "nothing will be proven"? He's basically admitting he's white. What is the point of pretending to be Chinese? Lame and pathetic.
Sean    Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 11:26:11 (PDT)    [68.14.94.53]
ACD,

"Aren't these the famous last words for the likes of Nixon and Clinton? ^_^"

Slices both ways, laddie. ;)
Apache Driver    Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 08:27:58 (PDT)    [67.84.132.190]

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