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How I Got Game with Girls

s an asian american teen, I had low self esteem. I was always very shy around females. I dreamed about playing varsity football and be around all the beautiful looking cheerleaders at my school. For a majority of asian guys, that's never the case. Going into college I had a trophy view of white girls. There was mystery about them. I never asian-hate ever in my life and respect all asian girls. Unfortunately, they all reminded me of my mom, whom I looked at as asexual. Sofomore year in college was the turning point of my non existing social life. At this point in time, I wanted to break out of my shell. By this time, I beefed up from my 140 lb self to a lean 180 lbs at 5 ft 11 inches. I lost the glasses too and my face cleared up. The only thing I was missing was confidence. Greg, an old caucasian friend of mine always had it made.
Girls would come to him left and right. He'd date rich, skanky, classy, and refined girls all over town.
On top of that, he was the number one of five hundred telemarketers in a large company. I knew there was something to be learned. I didn't want to think that being asian would be a disadvantage in Texas to date caucasian girls. So he taught me and taught me the art of selling myself. I applied the same methodical steps that he uses to sell products at his company.
We opened the student directory and started cold calling girls starting with the letter "A" and get them to drive out and meet us for dates.
I took more rejections than imaginably known to man. I've heard all the disses even before they see me. My friend on the other hand, could close a deal with a girls within 15 min. of talking to her on the phone and as fast in person. Of course I wasn't at that level yet.
Being the best telemarketer, it was expected of him. I studied his every move and learned everything he says that was different than my peers. I eventually got girls on the phone very curious about me that they would meet me.
After a period of time, I applied the same principles I learned onto the nightlife.
It was 10 times harder real time with a beautiful girl in front of you.
Before I knew it, my shyness went away, my creativity in my word choice improved, and my confidence went through the roof.
Now, I am 24 years old and been with more caucasian girls than I can count.
My story seem much different that others. I went through what you called telemarketing training ( the hardest type of sell to master).
As a result, finished selling my oats, and now happy with the girl of my dreams. Too all the asian fellows with white fetishes, life is too short to just see your white counterparts get game.

Thanks Greg for everything.
DT007
tate007@yahoo.com Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 11:37:39 (PDT)


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My friend's cousin is a Japanese-American living in Hawaii.

He did not have the confidence to approach non-Asian women until his early 30s.

He would go to clubs and hit on every white girl he sees. Some would reject him and some would be willing to give it a try.

Let me add that this guy is only 5'1 tall. Now, he is with this blonde white girl who just moved there from Minnesota.

Not all girls are shallow minded about looks.

Sometimes, it's not just a matter of being aggressive. You wouldn't want to appear too desperate. You just got to be yourself and know how to have good vibes. You must know how to read a girl's signs and her body language. For those who don't give you the time of day, forget about it. Just move on. There could be a variety of reasons why they are rejecting you, many of it not your own fault. What you want to meet is the one who is open minded to you and want you for who you are.

I must add that money is great asset. Don't spend it on anyone, but it wouldn't hurt to flash it either. It is the biggest weapon, we Asian guys got. Along with our serious, loving and loyal attitudes.

Every girl knows we are not players, but we are looking for those who don't want bad boys.
it works our way too
Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 20:41:29 (PDT)
villageidiot,

Don't worry, you will find someone. I am sure of it. There are plenty of girls I've known that like having intellectual conversations, aren't big drinkers, and love learning for its own sake. I'm one of them! In the meantime just keep being you and don't let anyone get you down.
a friend
Friday, June 07, 2002 at 12:19:26 (PDT)
WF mom,

the board is give by this link

http://goldsea.com/Poll/AMCF/amcf.html

and if you don't mind doling out some advice, why can't i meet somebody like your daughter? she seems like exactly the kind of girl that i'd really want to be my girl. in fact, i'm not really into flirting but more of the "intellectual conversation" also and only seem to be interesed in girls who have something significant to say and love learning for it's own sake. so why can't i seem to find such a girl and all i'd get are the boozers in college?
villageidiot
Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 22:26:57 (PDT)
"shy guy meets shy girl. warm hello's on campus but that's it. any advice...from shy asian guys?"


LOL are there any junior proms in those IB programs? honestly as somebody who went through IB i find the college prep kids who mention that are somewhat stuck-up, but no offense intended. but to be nice, i think some school activity that has their mutual interests is the best way to go. i assume they'd be interested in the same stuff since they could converse on that sweet level of non "hoochie-mama" trash talk. so see if there are any good school activities and invite them along, i know i'd be flattered were i in high school again.

honestly though, this board isn't the best place for this kind of advice since the other posts seem to focus on more of the macking with women rather than a sweet and semi-serious relationship. you might try the AMCF board on this site as there are other WF who are even married to AM who can give you better advice.
villageidiot (ain't no mack but realistic about relationships)
Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 22:07:57 (PDT)
wf mom,

is your daughter a hapa, or is she white? I would feel that hapa girls would have an easier time adjusting to Asian boys, unless the girl in question was raised totally 'white' (culturally speaking).
questions, questions....
Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 15:19:02 (PDT)
To wf mom:

As an asian male, I'd say the burden is on us guys to make better friendships with white girls for it to work.

For your daughter, you can suggest being more outgoing. Not to be confused with being overly flirtatious.
I suggest having her invite those asian guys to hang out somewhere.
A get together with some friends would be cool. It is not too upfront and if they like her, they would most likely say yes. She won't regret it.
Friendly invites
Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 15:05:22 (PDT)
ok..ok..i can't stand not chiming in. confession of a mother. my daughter, wf, is a very bright IB (International Bach.) student who has many great friends. She's beautiful, intelligent, fit, but doesn't flirt (for lack of knowing how.) But she loves intellectual conversation. Problem..all her friends flirt..and therefore..get the boy of their choice...she only hangs with beatiful preppy girls. With all that being said... she was at a pool party recently, two asian guy friends approached her she found both of them very attractive (mostly because they were talking to her for her brain not her size c-d, sorry)she didn't know how to express her interest other than continue conversing. so...shy guy meets shy girl. warm hello's on campus but that's it. any advice...from shy asian guys?
wf mom
Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 10:04:12 (PDT)
gzus in NY:
Why do I bother responding to your comments when half the times you make no sense.

"People who say people who "brag" are insecure ARE indeed right about this 95%-98% of the time. But when they are wrong, they're 100% wrong since the conclusion they reached is completely opposite of what reality is."
WTF?!

"It's not confidence u dipstick, confidence is just a manifestation of lots of things going for you."
So you're saying IT IS confidence? I rest my case.
be
Monday, May 27, 2002 at 22:45:49 (PDT)
be
You know what they say about people who brag? They suffer from insecurites.

Actually, there's several things wrong with that old saying, this old saying, the main problem being who defines what is a boast and how it is defined.

When Shaquille ONeal says he's tall and good at basketball, it might sound like a brag in ur little mind, but it aint. When Puffy says he's a player, he's not bragging either. Actually, both of those, rather being boasts, are understatements.

People who say people who "brag" are insecure ARE indeed right about this 95%-98% of the time. But when they are wrong, they're 100% wrong since the conclusion they reached is completely opposite of what reality is.

So, when you use rule of thumbs like that, which are actually just percentage guesses, be prepared to wrong quite often, and in a spectacular way.

gzus in NYC
Saturday, May 25, 2002 at 09:49:39 (PDT)
be
It's not confidence u dipstick, confidence is just a manifestation of lots of things going for you. Only fools speak of confidence in a disconnect as though it is some magical trait that some are born with, yet everyone can somehow easily fake and suddenly get everything they ever wanted.

Want confidence? Have some healthy mix of the following:
Looks, money, power, intelligence, great personality, high paying job, etc, etc, etc
gzus in NYC
Friday, May 24, 2002 at 16:21:13 (PDT)
just a regulat guy:

You're probaly have been succesful with girls b/c you possess the key element -- CONFIDENCE! I agree with you (not that I am the pursuer, nor male). You'll probaly expereince rejection every now and then, but dont let that bring you down. You should use it to learn from your mistakes, and always be confident in yourself.
be
Friday, May 24, 2002 at 09:55:20 (PDT)

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