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TSJ on Shanghai Nightlife and Girls

just got back from my trip to the motherland.
Anyways, as far as girls go, they sure weren't lying about Suzhou. I could seriously spend the rest of my life there. Wuxi has tons of hotties too. Both cities are in the same region, and Wuxi is turning itself into a miniature HK, complete with Vegas style neon lights and double decker busses.

Don't believe the hype about Shanghai. They are a good 20-30 years behind HK and Tokyo. Girls are hot as hell, and dress fairly modern, but are extremely country like, and not very sophisticated at all. They try toooo hard to be like HK and Taipei, without trying to forge their own identity. Posters of Andy Lau and F4 are emblazoned all over the city. However, their fashions are still below par. I think my little sis was the best dressed girl in the city, and that's saying a lot.

The city is marketed as "a most international city," where English is spoken by many. Suuuure... you will be hardpressed to find anyone who can speak putonghua, let alone English. And let me tell you... other than Vietnamese, native Shanghainese has got to be the most annoying language out there. It just sounds horrible!

Clubs? Zzzzz... Girls just strut back and forth. No grinding, no freaking. There was this one free concert at the Super Brand Mall, a monumental Thailand/China collaboration right across the street from the tower, which featured an Australian cover band. They rocked! They were playing your typical American songs, as well as singing some A-Mei and F4 songs... and they were a mixed group of black and white! Anyways, as usual, when there is a dope live band onstage, I just can't help but get my groove on. My little sis and I decided to get up near the stage and just started dancing. No one joined us! We were just up there like buffoons, while the most anyone else did was clap their hands. What a waste. I'm sure the band appreciated the fact that at least two people enjoyed the show.

Also, we were at this restaurant at the same mall which caters to more western businesses, and the waitresses there didn't even know what a tip was! They told us we dropped our money on the table. I mean, maybe in China they don't tip, but they are in the "international business district" in an "international city," and they don't know international customs?!

We stood out like a sore thumb, with our American brand clothing. I had mostly Hollister/A&F type stuff on with Nike Shox (hardly anyone wears Nikes in China). My sis had Polo Sport and Bebe looking stuff. People were trying to figure out where we were from. Most thought HK, since we were talking to each other in Canto, and some said Singapore, and even Japan, but most were in the back of their minds, hoping that the answer was good old USA, and when they found out we were, their eyes all lit up.

With that being said, just flash your Benjis (or even Georgies for that matter), and any Shanghainese girl you want is all yours. I got more pops in three days there than I do a whole year out here, and I'm just an average looking guy of average height. Honestly, I'd rather have a Suzhou girl over a Shanghai girl. At least that way, you know what you are getting, a simple down home country girl with old fashioned values, instead of a country girl who just thinks she is modern, and will instantly turn corrupted at the smell of cold hard cash.

Beijing has some hotties, but are very, very reserved. No one wears modern fashions. No sandals or tight shirts or anything. The city is full of smog, and really isn't a fun place to be. The only thing they have are the historical landmarks. Summer Palace and Great Wall are awesome, especially the latter. Tianenman Square and Forbidden Palace? Tourist traps.

Anyways, contact me if you want to talk more. I know you guys have been there, so maybe we can swap stories.
TSJ PepePearsn@aol.com Sunday, September 22, 2002 at 16:47:29 (PDT) [67.116.70.245]

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Hey,

I am just one simple girl from Shanghai originally. Unfortunately, I have seen what the fashion you were talking about in the states, especially the fashion between those ABCs from HK.I don't find what you said about Shanghai is true. I guess only those who never been to Shanghai will believe you. You are such an idiot!
I know you were born in America and feel so proud of being an ABC, but have your parents ever told you how your ancestors ran away from HK to the states?? Think about it! I got a couple of ABC friends. They are a lot nicer than you. You are way to arrogant.
China is developing. It is impossible to catch up with USA in a short time,but it is growing faster than any countries in the world.
Anyhow, I suggest that you should buy a mirror and look into you. You almost forgot who you are. You really don't understand how to be a cultivated man. Please don't call China as your MOTHERLAND! You are not qualified to be a Chinese.
an angry girl
( My English is not so good as yours since I don't have the chance to grow up in the states, but I still want to let you know how I feel.)
an angry girl seek4truth@yahoo.com Friday, December 13, 2002 at 12:10:03 (PST) [66.185.85.81]

ABC in Shanghai:

Wow, it looks like you have got yourself together, doing all that international business and all. You must be a very bright young man. Where along the way did I go wrong? hehe

Anyways, I appreciate your responses as well. I will respond to them once again.

A. Most people my age like to think they are mature, but in reality are not much more than older teenagers. Yes, I'm a perv, and I'm not ashamed to say it. =P

B. Yeah, I guess I did go off on a tangent on this one, but I understand your point.

C. Well, if say, I did try wearing Versace and whatnot to make myself look rich, I wouldn't be being myself. This would be an even more blatant attempt at trying to score. When I go somewhere, I don't make an effort to conceal my identity, nor do I try to stand out. I just act neutral, and do my own thing. If they look at me, fine. If not, it's okay too.

In Shanghai, the girls just so happen to like my outfits. They aren't all necessarily teenyboppers either. I'm sure high class, educated girls dig it too. I think by wearing expensive clothes, I would just attract all the gold diggers.

The funny thing about A&F is that even though Asians in America caused a stink over their shirts, they are popular as ever in Asia itself. If you watch HK movies and tv shows, many stars sport their gear. Another popular brand is Aeropostale. Hollister is a new brand, so it's not widely distributed yet, even in the states. It's actually an offshoot of A&F, similar to the Banana Republic/Gap/Old Navy family.

Hey, I have something to ask you. Is it a required uniform in Shanghai to have that Baleno Black/Blue/Red, etc. "Say It With Color(s)" shirt?! God damn! It's like every other person I saw was wearing that. hahah I believe Baleno is an HK brand, so why is it so popular?

D. This was my first time in Shanghai, so it was more about exploring than anything else. Next time, I'll have a better idea what to do and what to look for. These wealthy, educated girls will take care of me, huh? What can they do for me if I'm only there for a few days? If I go back to China to look for girls, I'd rather have some country girls. Those are the ones who really know how to treat you right. There are plenty of wealthy, educated girls in the states. I want something I can't get here.

So, how do you think Shanghai compares to HK? To me, nothing in the world beats HK. It is bar none, the most beautiful city in the world. Some places may offer the same citylife (NYC), and others the natural setting (Rio, Vancouver, our beloved San Francisco), but none of them combine both elements as flawlessly as HK.

For Cantonese, HK is the capital of the world. Beijing, Hanzhou, and whatever are just afterthoughts. HK is, and always will be the center of the universe. I think Shanghai is trying to imitate HK, not NYC, as many have said. The downtown shopping malls look just like HK. The modern high rises more closely resemble HK style than American. The underground mall at People's Square is called "Hong Kong Mall." If you ever go there, there is a store called "Young and Danger" (missing the "ous"), obviously inspired by the Ekin Cheng classic films. There is a huge painting of the movie poster on the wall. They sell leather jackets and "gang paraphernalia," just like in the movies. The guys who work there even have that Ekin look going on. I almost cracked up.
TSJ Eric@KristinKreuk.net Wednesday, October 09, 2002 at 01:08:56 (PDT) [67.116.231.39]

To the Dongbei character:

Where exactly is Dongbei? According to Sean, it's in Manchuria?

Well no wonder you made such rude remarks.

You're not even Chinese.
canton4me Tuesday, October 08, 2002 at 13:37:46 (PDT) [208.48.177.3]

TSJ:

I'm glad you like my comments. =P

Here you go! *Puff* *Puff* *Pass*

One more thing everyone needs to realize is that not all ABC's have cool fashions. There are a ton of dorky ABC's too that would look worse than China people.
HK Boy Sunday, October 06, 2002 at 01:25:27 (PDT) [67.116.231.171]

Hi TSJ -

Good response! I do appreciate your candidness. And again, I respect people and the way they choose to live, it may be a phase or lifelong style, so be it.

As for your rebuttal (I view it more as a response), I would not elaborate too much but simply say:

A. Great, at least you know who you are, that beats 90% in your ago group (20-25).
B. I am not sure exactly how your response relates to my initial comment, I, somehow, think I understand that you understood my point. That is probably good enough. Just remember, choosing and be chosen happens at the same time.
C. Sure, I am just saying what perspective of Shanghai girls hold when they look at guys, and do remember, perception IS more important than reality, especially in the culture that is foreign to you.
D. Wife, where does this word come from? All I was trying to tell you: If you elevate yourself, these wealthy, educated and pretty girls will take care of you beyond what you can think, who ever said about marriage? Ouch!

Well, what brought over to Shanghai (or Asia)? Work, I have been running a Venture Fund in Hong Kong, Tokyo and now in Shanghai, things are far more exciting than Silicon Valley can offer, and yes I am from the Bay Area too.

ABC in Shanghai Friday, October 04, 2002 at 16:16:43 (PDT) [63.251.56.5]

"Cantonese girls are loud, have greasy faces, speak that hideous dialect called cantonese, not to mention they have goldfish eyes that pop out of their sockets, usually have fat lips and buck teeth, and have extremely bad skin.
Nothern chinese girls from Beijing and Dongbei areas have to be the most gorgeous women out there. If you like fine skin, delicate faces and tall elegant women with the beautiful eyes. Those are the ones. Shanghainese girls are also much more attractive than Cantonese girls.

Cantonese aren't even chinese, I consider you guys Northern Viets."

What a bunch of nonsensical generalizations. I was born in DongBei, otherwise known as Northeastern China or Manchuria. This is a prime example of how a inflated self-image distorts the world. In person-to-person relations, such a person displaying such a fashion of thinking would be considered _____, you fill it in.

Cantonese girls are not all ugly and not all pretty, just like the Beijinger girl or whatever. The traits you assign to Cantonese girls are not only exaggerations but tend to describe neutral or even positive characteristics in a fully negative light. Further, the fine skin, tall, stature, and fine eyes you describe of Dongbei girls are also exaggerated and biased. While there are girls who take the "southern" features to an extreme, I've seen my share of ugly Beijing or Dongbei girls who take the "northern" features to an extreme. But in true veneration of human nature, one chooses to be blind to one's own ugliness, and ends up looking like an ass to everyone except the self.
By the way, you seem to imply the inferiority of Viets with your comment about Apocalypse Now and how Cantonese are northern Viets. Since you concentrate on physical looks, I have to say that Vietnamese girls, at least the ones who grew up in America,can be very pretty. Granted,you have to see one first, when you get your buried head out of the soil of ignorance.
also from Dongbei, Sean Friday, October 04, 2002 at 10:56:45 (PDT) [68.14.94.53]

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