Full Version: Where Are All The Af's With Wm's?
I keep seeing all these posts about how AM's struggle with finding a girlfriend because AF's usually date WM's. Not just on this board, but elsewhere on the web. Contrary to popular belief, most AF's date AM's. But some AM's whine about there not being enough AF's to date. I don't know where they get this impression. Yes, interracial relationships involving AF's exceed the number of those involving AM's. But AM/AF relationships far exceed those interracial relationships by at least 10 to 1 and that ratio is an underestimation. It's probably 10 : 0.5 or a greater ration. Just because a few Asian women rejected you does not mean that the majority do. I have only met one Asian female who favored white men over Asian men. Let's not create problems where there are none. I think this false impression is created because the media promotes demasculinized images of Asian men. You can't let the media tell you who you are. So this challenges the self-esteem of some Asian men who develop a paranoia that all the Asian women are dating the white man.
I'm going to be honest and it might offend some people, so I apologize ahead of time.
It depends on the reason the AF dates WM, if it is really love, then great. Unfortunately a large percentage of the AF/WM mix is for other reasons, perception of integration, money, etc. I often see otherwise normal looking AF going out with what society would catagorize as undesirable WM, Dorks (without brain), fat, ugly, old men. Some ethnic backgrounds such as filipinos, have a porportionally higher out marriage rates to WM and it is predominately based on money. I have seen a gorgous, absolutely stunning young pinay lady going out with a late 40's, big arse fat f***, and their 3 little kids. She spoke no english, we can derive what their marriage means.
I developed the anti-AF attitude, which is, if you don't want me then I don't want you. I noticed all the best looking asian girls are with asian guys already and the white guys can keep the rest. I personally prefer to date white chicks and hapas who have a asian father. Rejecting hot girls is fun, wow, talk about a power surge, you'll know it when you try it.
That will be all.
It depends on the reason the AF dates WM, if it is really love, then great. Unfortunately a large percentage of the AF/WM mix is for other reasons, perception of integration, money, etc. I often see otherwise normal looking AF going out with what society would catagorize as undesirable WM, Dorks (without brain), fat, ugly, old men. Some ethnic backgrounds such as filipinos, have a porportionally higher out marriage rates to WM and it is predominately based on money. I have seen a gorgous, absolutely stunning young pinay lady going out with a late 40's, big arse fat f***, and their 3 little kids. She spoke no english, we can derive what their marriage means.
I developed the anti-AF attitude, which is, if you don't want me then I don't want you. I noticed all the best looking asian girls are with asian guys already and the white guys can keep the rest. I personally prefer to date white chicks and hapas who have a asian father. Rejecting hot girls is fun, wow, talk about a power surge, you'll know it when you try it.
That will be all.
"She spoke no english, we can derive what their marriage means."
Perhaps the old guy spoke Tagalog. Maybe he was a kind man. I've seen an older WM/ younger AF couple where the WM was markedly older. He was quite nice and would go to family gatherings of the AF's family. I was a friend of his wife's niece and when we came over, he served us some drinks. He really took care of his wife and they respected each other. It wasn't like he just wanted a lover.
"I developed the anti-AF attitude, which is, if you don't want me then I don't want you. I noticed all the best looking asian girls are with asian guys already and the white guys can keep the rest. I personally prefer to date white chicks and hapas who have a asian father. Rejecting hot girls is fun, wow, talk about a power surge, you'll know it when you try it."
You sound like an embittered AM. But if "all the best looking asian girls are with asian guys already", then who are the "hot girls" you are rejecting? Since you prefer white and hapa girls, the "hot girls" you are alluding to are AF's. You get the surge of power because it is your way of getting back at the AF's that rejected you. But the AF's that approach you are not those women and you are unjustly taking out your anger on them, which is ironic as it would more likely encourage those AF's to seek WM's.
Your post just reflects the mindset of Asian men who are paranoid about Asian women dating WM. How do the relationships of others affect your life?
Perhaps the old guy spoke Tagalog. Maybe he was a kind man. I've seen an older WM/ younger AF couple where the WM was markedly older. He was quite nice and would go to family gatherings of the AF's family. I was a friend of his wife's niece and when we came over, he served us some drinks. He really took care of his wife and they respected each other. It wasn't like he just wanted a lover.
"I developed the anti-AF attitude, which is, if you don't want me then I don't want you. I noticed all the best looking asian girls are with asian guys already and the white guys can keep the rest. I personally prefer to date white chicks and hapas who have a asian father. Rejecting hot girls is fun, wow, talk about a power surge, you'll know it when you try it."
You sound like an embittered AM. But if "all the best looking asian girls are with asian guys already", then who are the "hot girls" you are rejecting? Since you prefer white and hapa girls, the "hot girls" you are alluding to are AF's. You get the surge of power because it is your way of getting back at the AF's that rejected you. But the AF's that approach you are not those women and you are unjustly taking out your anger on them, which is ironic as it would more likely encourage those AF's to seek WM's.
Your post just reflects the mindset of Asian men who are paranoid about Asian women dating WM. How do the relationships of others affect your life?
As for the rejecting "hot girls" part of PLA's comment, I cannot argue with that. As for his reason's, that's for PLA to decide. The vengence part of it is downright deluded and scandelous, but the part of not caving into the sura or appeal of "hot girls" separates the men from the boys.
PLA might have meant that the reason of rejecting "hot girls" can be seen as a sign that the dude's mental and personal health is not tied up to the acceptance of a particular woman. You girls should know that deparate guys are a big turn off. In that respect, I do hope that this PLA is not some person who places white or hapa girls on a pedestal or brainwashed to believe that such unions with an asian guy is reserved for a secret society.
If this doesn't apply to PLA, then good for him an all his brothers. Sadly, in some sites like these and in real life, I've known guys with this serious case of inferiority complex like there is this special aura about white or hapa girls. They're just people not gods for goodness sake.
Now from personal experience, I do know some "hot girls" , both asian and non-asian, with this superiority complex that enables them to believe that the world is at their beck and call. From meeting me, I somehow keep pissing them off with my rather egalitarian viewpoint about them. I had someone ask me to finish their homework for her while she goes out for the evening. From rumors to actual accounts, I sensed that this chick believed that us asian guys will be all too willing to help out like charity workers. Being no charity worker and more for empowerment and equal treatment of the capabiliities of the sexes, I simply told her, "You are smart person. Why don't you do it yourself?" I did get that power surge as PLA mentioned not for reasons of selfish gain but due to being the master of my own self and not the acceptance of others.
Funny thing though.... That girl was certainly pissed by my comment as if she never got that often. If "The Tao of Steve" reference of pursuing that retreats from us" hold true, then it did when she later (by a couple of days) gave me her digits.
PLA might have meant that the reason of rejecting "hot girls" can be seen as a sign that the dude's mental and personal health is not tied up to the acceptance of a particular woman. You girls should know that deparate guys are a big turn off. In that respect, I do hope that this PLA is not some person who places white or hapa girls on a pedestal or brainwashed to believe that such unions with an asian guy is reserved for a secret society.
If this doesn't apply to PLA, then good for him an all his brothers. Sadly, in some sites like these and in real life, I've known guys with this serious case of inferiority complex like there is this special aura about white or hapa girls. They're just people not gods for goodness sake.
Now from personal experience, I do know some "hot girls" , both asian and non-asian, with this superiority complex that enables them to believe that the world is at their beck and call. From meeting me, I somehow keep pissing them off with my rather egalitarian viewpoint about them. I had someone ask me to finish their homework for her while she goes out for the evening. From rumors to actual accounts, I sensed that this chick believed that us asian guys will be all too willing to help out like charity workers. Being no charity worker and more for empowerment and equal treatment of the capabiliities of the sexes, I simply told her, "You are smart person. Why don't you do it yourself?" I did get that power surge as PLA mentioned not for reasons of selfish gain but due to being the master of my own self and not the acceptance of others.
Funny thing though.... That girl was certainly pissed by my comment as if she never got that often. If "The Tao of Steve" reference of pursuing that retreats from us" hold true, then it did when she later (by a couple of days) gave me her digits.
I almost feel the same way. I've seen so many Asian Female and White male relationships I've gotten quite tired of it. I used to have a big thing for AF but after seeing all of them, it seems like they are in no hurry to lose their Asian identity. I mean I'm Mexican and I pretty much White Washed but I admire my Mexican looks. I would at least like an Asian girl who admires her Asian looks. Most Asian females I see are out with ugly white guys; I can completely confirm this since I work now. But I don't think that's true in all cases. If I fall in love with an Asian women, I want her to understand that she is Asian and I am Mexican. I know love crosses all boundries but I would love for her just to understand that. I guess I'm so proud that after thousands of years of being seperated, people of different races can finally love each other in peace and in a way I would like a partner to respect that. But that's just me.
That's why I've kind of grown attatched to Black women; they don't seem as eager to give up their race. In my whole time watching Interracials I've only seen one or two BF interracial relationships. In my mind I have made a sort of scavenger hunt on racial relationships. I've seen WF/BM, WF/AM, WF/LM, BF/WM, AF/BM, AF/WM, LF/WM, LF/BM, AM/WF and that's it. I have yet to see Black girls with Latinos and Asians and Asian males with Latinas and Black males. You know how in Pokemon you got the common Pokemons but there is the big huge one you are looking for? Well the big huge mega super one I'm looking for is the ultimately rare Black Female and Asian Male Interracial Relationship. I have yet in my life to ever see those. So those are the ones I am looking after for. If you get the those two races of those specific genders to finally mix, you got the whole granddaddy of Interracial relationships.
That's why I've kind of grown attatched to Black women; they don't seem as eager to give up their race. In my whole time watching Interracials I've only seen one or two BF interracial relationships. In my mind I have made a sort of scavenger hunt on racial relationships. I've seen WF/BM, WF/AM, WF/LM, BF/WM, AF/BM, AF/WM, LF/WM, LF/BM, AM/WF and that's it. I have yet to see Black girls with Latinos and Asians and Asian males with Latinas and Black males. You know how in Pokemon you got the common Pokemons but there is the big huge one you are looking for? Well the big huge mega super one I'm looking for is the ultimately rare Black Female and Asian Male Interracial Relationship. I have yet in my life to ever see those. So those are the ones I am looking after for. If you get the those two races of those specific genders to finally mix, you got the whole granddaddy of Interracial relationships.
Just to carify on the issue.
I'm a equal opportunity rejector, white, hapa whatever.
Why do I reject? Because I have the mentality that "I will choose you, but you will not choose me" more or less a power thing. I like it when the girls "submit" by acknowledging their attraction to me. Yay, power. Ha ha ha. I own you b****. I can have you if I want and you know it.
Zalan had it right on the mark when he successfully interpreted my original post. Most hot girls think they are the next best thing to sliced bread and to shoot them down after they have "submitted" themselves to possiable rejection is awesome. Funny thing, they are more attracted to you after you reject them.
The only girls who I do not reject are the rare, down to earth girls, who genuinely care about people around them, intelligent and HUMBLE. I would happily serve a nice,humble, girl and treat her like a princess; however I would never treat a haughty girl nicely, regardless of how hot she is.
Jestele.
I'm bitter for my asian brothers because it seems a lot of AF do not respect the inherent power of asian guys. Why do you care anyways? Live your life and do whoever attracts you.
I'm a equal opportunity rejector, white, hapa whatever.
Why do I reject? Because I have the mentality that "I will choose you, but you will not choose me" more or less a power thing. I like it when the girls "submit" by acknowledging their attraction to me. Yay, power. Ha ha ha. I own you b****. I can have you if I want and you know it.
Zalan had it right on the mark when he successfully interpreted my original post. Most hot girls think they are the next best thing to sliced bread and to shoot them down after they have "submitted" themselves to possiable rejection is awesome. Funny thing, they are more attracted to you after you reject them.
The only girls who I do not reject are the rare, down to earth girls, who genuinely care about people around them, intelligent and HUMBLE. I would happily serve a nice,humble, girl and treat her like a princess; however I would never treat a haughty girl nicely, regardless of how hot she is.
Jestele.
I'm bitter for my asian brothers because it seems a lot of AF do not respect the inherent power of asian guys. Why do you care anyways? Live your life and do whoever attracts you.
"I like it when the girls "submit" by acknowledging their attraction to me."
I thought I had stumbled upon a time capsule to the eighteen-hundreds. Then I shook my head and realized that I was on the Internet, and that, in fact, it was 2005. Congratuations PLA, you are officially a "blast to the past." Back when women had no civil rights and were little better than domestic slaves at the beck and call of men.
Again. Congratulations.
"...to shoot them down after they have "submitted" themselves to possiable rejection is awesome"
First off: it's "possible."
Second, I totally agree with your assessment of awesome! I absolutely love shooting down guys who open themselves for rejection. I mean, it's a TOTAL power trip--stomping on their egos and self-esteem, what could be a more wonderful pastime outside of shopping? *Giggle* Who cares if they're crushed? I'm having fun and it makes me feel like such a big ma...I mean, woman! Totally compensates for my lack of equipment and insufficient production of testosterone.
"The only girls who I do not reject are the rare, down to earth girls, who genuinely care about people around them, intelligent and HUMBLE."
So...the most important quality to have in a girl is her HUMBLEness. Which, in the dictionary, is synonymous with "meekness," "subservience," and "deference." In addition, you enjoy putting down a girl who you perceive as "arrogant" and "uppity." Can you actually determine who's actually haughty and who uses it as a defense for her low self-esteem? If she's actually "submitting" herself to admitting she likes you, doesn't that mean that she's ordinarily superior to you?
Just my two yen. Or cents, although I'm not sure of the exchange rate at this point.
(Personally, my dear, as an 17-year-old first-generation Asian female, the men I'm looking at are those who don't treat their Asian-ness as any kind of important factor in their personalities. That is, not acting like an Asian princeling, who only focuses on academics and expects the world to turn around him...or azn "brothers" who take on the mantle of ebonics and gangsta fashion because they're secretly ashamed of their heritage. Either way, I'd like to know that when I "debase" myself to admit (after a few months of excruciating internal debate) that I like a guy, he's not taking a power trip in rejecting me.
The whole master-bitch rountine is generally found it porn, not real life.
I thought I had stumbled upon a time capsule to the eighteen-hundreds. Then I shook my head and realized that I was on the Internet, and that, in fact, it was 2005. Congratuations PLA, you are officially a "blast to the past." Back when women had no civil rights and were little better than domestic slaves at the beck and call of men.
Again. Congratulations.
"...to shoot them down after they have "submitted" themselves to possiable rejection is awesome"
First off: it's "possible."
Second, I totally agree with your assessment of awesome! I absolutely love shooting down guys who open themselves for rejection. I mean, it's a TOTAL power trip--stomping on their egos and self-esteem, what could be a more wonderful pastime outside of shopping? *Giggle* Who cares if they're crushed? I'm having fun and it makes me feel like such a big ma...I mean, woman! Totally compensates for my lack of equipment and insufficient production of testosterone.
"The only girls who I do not reject are the rare, down to earth girls, who genuinely care about people around them, intelligent and HUMBLE."
So...the most important quality to have in a girl is her HUMBLEness. Which, in the dictionary, is synonymous with "meekness," "subservience," and "deference." In addition, you enjoy putting down a girl who you perceive as "arrogant" and "uppity." Can you actually determine who's actually haughty and who uses it as a defense for her low self-esteem? If she's actually "submitting" herself to admitting she likes you, doesn't that mean that she's ordinarily superior to you?
Just my two yen. Or cents, although I'm not sure of the exchange rate at this point.
(Personally, my dear, as an 17-year-old first-generation Asian female, the men I'm looking at are those who don't treat their Asian-ness as any kind of important factor in their personalities. That is, not acting like an Asian princeling, who only focuses on academics and expects the world to turn around him...or azn "brothers" who take on the mantle of ebonics and gangsta fashion because they're secretly ashamed of their heritage. Either way, I'd like to know that when I "debase" myself to admit (after a few months of excruciating internal debate) that I like a guy, he's not taking a power trip in rejecting me.
The whole master-bitch rountine is generally found it porn, not real life.
Well ladies and gentlemen, PLA has his own issues to work out with snobby hot girls, AF and/or otherwise. If it's for simple revenge, then that is just plain stupid in the long run. As long as PLA doesn't hang around and debate around with one particular snobby girl, it's fine by me. He just better move on.
As for PLA's comment of not rejecting the down-to earth, intelligent, and HUMBLE girls, I'll agree to that if his interpretation of "humble" comes around as palatable to human ears. PLA like many guys, in the web and in real life, are not very articulate with conveying their thoughts through written speech. In websites such as these, I try not to take anything too seriously. Yes, there exists some angry and pitiful posters ranting endlessly to blow off some steam. I'll admit that at one time I wasn't an exception. By sifting through the layers of Archie Bunkerisms and "Figure-8-straight line " thought processes, it does take a herculian effort to see some value in the heated comments of posters. There are several examples of this on this site but may take too long to explain for now.
Again, back to the topic....
At least for me, Tebro, HUMBLE should mean not submissive. He should have used the word "tactful."
Hell, I shouldn't use the word "ladylike" although I know a number of girls who would feel offended by that word. HUMBLE should mean for the woman that she doesn't act like a complete bitch or possess some sort of prima-donna complex by which they think that the whole world is at their fingertips. The worst ones don't have to be considered good looking by current standards of beauty. What some may refer to as a "short-man's complex, " there are a number of people who act all haugthy, or bitchy for lack of a better term, to over compensate for their minuses and/or insecurities. The "hoes" of the Jerry Springer Show are one limited but extreme example. However, such people do exist.
Unlike sticks and stones, words can truly leave an emotional wound for the weak willed.
tebro wrote,
That actually can be hard to tell. No one person could totally map out any other person's heart. However, I have met other women, asian and non-asian, who have said the most baseless things like "not into asian guys", "sorry but remind my of my dad", "what's your [expletive]ing problem" to me. Now, if it's a response for trying to hook up with her, then fine. It's their preference and I'll just move on. However, the human side of me can be irked by those comments when I wasn't even trying to get their digits or something and was simply asking a mundane question like "Where is this building?" or "Have you seen this person?" That's when I really get pissed off, and I know it's unprotective to dwell on it but hey, I'm pissed.
Today, I have grown a bit more empathic to such haughtiness thanks to one haughty girl who kindly apologized for her comments about me. She actually stated that being a so-called bitch isn't a natural thing to get into. It's a 24/7 job that sort of becomes natural 'cause you don't ever know if one guy is for real and not some pretender or asshole or jerk.
I thanked her for her perspective and believed her to be a good person at heart. Now, that's if really get to know these haughty girls and have the will power and patience which I admit doesn't come in limitless quantities every day. If I hear someone making these bitchy comments at me, my personal reaction is to retort, flip them off, simply move on and try not to know them. I know its so crass, but I am honest to admit that I have other concerns like work, school, family, and friends t owaste my breath with people like these. Whether these hot girls act bitchy for a reason or no reason, I don't really know. All I know is that I wouldn't touch them with a 100-foot pole for a long while and try to understand yet unless I have free time as a clinical therapist. And I'm no certified therapist!!!
As for PLA's comment of not rejecting the down-to earth, intelligent, and HUMBLE girls, I'll agree to that if his interpretation of "humble" comes around as palatable to human ears. PLA like many guys, in the web and in real life, are not very articulate with conveying their thoughts through written speech. In websites such as these, I try not to take anything too seriously. Yes, there exists some angry and pitiful posters ranting endlessly to blow off some steam. I'll admit that at one time I wasn't an exception. By sifting through the layers of Archie Bunkerisms and "Figure-8-straight line " thought processes, it does take a herculian effort to see some value in the heated comments of posters. There are several examples of this on this site but may take too long to explain for now.
Again, back to the topic....
At least for me, Tebro, HUMBLE should mean not submissive. He should have used the word "tactful."
Hell, I shouldn't use the word "ladylike" although I know a number of girls who would feel offended by that word. HUMBLE should mean for the woman that she doesn't act like a complete bitch or possess some sort of prima-donna complex by which they think that the whole world is at their fingertips. The worst ones don't have to be considered good looking by current standards of beauty. What some may refer to as a "short-man's complex, " there are a number of people who act all haugthy, or bitchy for lack of a better term, to over compensate for their minuses and/or insecurities. The "hoes" of the Jerry Springer Show are one limited but extreme example. However, such people do exist.
Unlike sticks and stones, words can truly leave an emotional wound for the weak willed.
tebro wrote,
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| Can you actually determine who's actually haughty and who uses it as a defense for her low self-esteem? If she's actually "submitting" herself to admitting she likes you, doesn't that mean that she's ordinarily superior to you? |
That actually can be hard to tell. No one person could totally map out any other person's heart. However, I have met other women, asian and non-asian, who have said the most baseless things like "not into asian guys", "sorry but remind my of my dad", "what's your [expletive]ing problem" to me. Now, if it's a response for trying to hook up with her, then fine. It's their preference and I'll just move on. However, the human side of me can be irked by those comments when I wasn't even trying to get their digits or something and was simply asking a mundane question like "Where is this building?" or "Have you seen this person?" That's when I really get pissed off, and I know it's unprotective to dwell on it but hey, I'm pissed.
Today, I have grown a bit more empathic to such haughtiness thanks to one haughty girl who kindly apologized for her comments about me. She actually stated that being a so-called bitch isn't a natural thing to get into. It's a 24/7 job that sort of becomes natural 'cause you don't ever know if one guy is for real and not some pretender or asshole or jerk.
I thanked her for her perspective and believed her to be a good person at heart. Now, that's if really get to know these haughty girls and have the will power and patience which I admit doesn't come in limitless quantities every day. If I hear someone making these bitchy comments at me, my personal reaction is to retort, flip them off, simply move on and try not to know them. I know its so crass, but I am honest to admit that I have other concerns like work, school, family, and friends t owaste my breath with people like these. Whether these hot girls act bitchy for a reason or no reason, I don't really know. All I know is that I wouldn't touch them with a 100-foot pole for a long while and try to understand yet unless I have free time as a clinical therapist. And I'm no certified therapist!!!
First off, thanks for clarifying ljin!
I just reread my post and realized that I came off as incredibly snarky and possibly one of those "haughty" girls that PLA has problems with. And on purpose too, which was immature of me, and I apologize.
"HUMBLE should mean for the woman that she doesn't act like a complete bitch or possess some sort of prima-donna complex by which they think that the whole world is at their fingertips."
That's utterly and totally true. If this is what PLA means, then I apologize again for snapping. I've met a lot of girls who are in fact, prima-donnas and incredibly bitchy. To be honest, I think there's a vindictive bitch inside of every girl--it's all up to whether or not she can control it or not. Perhaps it was PLA's language, but the juxtaposition of his rejoicing (after rejecting a girl) and his list of prerequisites that he wants sounded a tad hypocritical and I pounced (perhaps prematurely).
"However, the human side of me can be irked by those comments when I wasn't even trying to get their digits or something and was simply asking a mundane question..."
You definitely have a right to be irked. Those girls sure jump to conclusions.
Equivalent horror story: I have acted like a frigid, snarky bitch when I'm condescended to, or when the guy goes too fast too quickly. Believe it or not, there are guys who don't recognize that "get away" actually means "get away," and even when I'm trying to subtly move away, they attempt to pull me back. There's only so far that I can retain my temper, and it doesn't burst as much as freeze over COLD.
Not a two way street.
ARG. Wouldn't it be nice to all be hermaphrodites who thought the same way?
-L.
BTW: don't try deciphering 24/7 bitchiness. I've tried, as a girl, to make friends with some girls and I can only assume it's the overwhelming perfume that affects their endocrine system. No other explanation.
I just reread my post and realized that I came off as incredibly snarky and possibly one of those "haughty" girls that PLA has problems with. And on purpose too, which was immature of me, and I apologize.
"HUMBLE should mean for the woman that she doesn't act like a complete bitch or possess some sort of prima-donna complex by which they think that the whole world is at their fingertips."
That's utterly and totally true. If this is what PLA means, then I apologize again for snapping. I've met a lot of girls who are in fact, prima-donnas and incredibly bitchy. To be honest, I think there's a vindictive bitch inside of every girl--it's all up to whether or not she can control it or not. Perhaps it was PLA's language, but the juxtaposition of his rejoicing (after rejecting a girl) and his list of prerequisites that he wants sounded a tad hypocritical and I pounced (perhaps prematurely).
"However, the human side of me can be irked by those comments when I wasn't even trying to get their digits or something and was simply asking a mundane question..."
You definitely have a right to be irked. Those girls sure jump to conclusions.
Equivalent horror story: I have acted like a frigid, snarky bitch when I'm condescended to, or when the guy goes too fast too quickly. Believe it or not, there are guys who don't recognize that "get away" actually means "get away," and even when I'm trying to subtly move away, they attempt to pull me back. There's only so far that I can retain my temper, and it doesn't burst as much as freeze over COLD.
Not a two way street.
ARG. Wouldn't it be nice to all be hermaphrodites who thought the same way?
-L.
BTW: don't try deciphering 24/7 bitchiness. I've tried, as a girl, to make friends with some girls and I can only assume it's the overwhelming perfume that affects their endocrine system. No other explanation.
Tebro
I am sharing my true feelings and it may offend people although unintended. You don't always have nice thoughts about others right?
Humility is a beautiful thing. When a girl is awesome, people will know, she does not have to flaunt it. For example, in my investments class, a girl who majored in CS could easily see the relationships between the different theories and solve complex problems much faster than anyone else in the class. I admired her intellectual poweress, even more so because she was willing to help others and did not think of herself as better than other students.
I know a girl who is extremely beautiful and intelligent, there are no questions regarding those two traits. She does not look at people in a arrogant manner and treats everyone with respect. She consistently performs community service with full hearted devotion (many others do so to make their records look good). She is also very willing to serve others without being asked to do so. When you talk to her, there is no doubt she is filled with self confidence, integrity and a sense of honor. That is the type of girl I respect. For an example of this type of girl looks like see Survivor 2: Elisabeth Filarsky.
Also I prefer my girl to have the innate capability for extraordinary success and always chooses family over career. There must be a yin and yang in a relationship, two aggressive people or two very introverted people simply will not get along in the long run IMHO.
Another thing, guys in general don't want to fight at home, we just want peace and enjoy our time together with the SO. Good luck in your relationships, you'll need it
I am sharing my true feelings and it may offend people although unintended. You don't always have nice thoughts about others right?
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Humility is a beautiful thing. When a girl is awesome, people will know, she does not have to flaunt it. For example, in my investments class, a girl who majored in CS could easily see the relationships between the different theories and solve complex problems much faster than anyone else in the class. I admired her intellectual poweress, even more so because she was willing to help others and did not think of herself as better than other students.
I know a girl who is extremely beautiful and intelligent, there are no questions regarding those two traits. She does not look at people in a arrogant manner and treats everyone with respect. She consistently performs community service with full hearted devotion (many others do so to make their records look good). She is also very willing to serve others without being asked to do so. When you talk to her, there is no doubt she is filled with self confidence, integrity and a sense of honor. That is the type of girl I respect. For an example of this type of girl looks like see Survivor 2: Elisabeth Filarsky.
Also I prefer my girl to have the innate capability for extraordinary success and always chooses family over career. There must be a yin and yang in a relationship, two aggressive people or two very introverted people simply will not get along in the long run IMHO.
Another thing, guys in general don't want to fight at home, we just want peace and enjoy our time together with the SO. Good luck in your relationships, you'll need it
I have noticed this phenomena also. All of my Asian-American friends strictly date older white men, some of them go as far as dating married men. When I have confronted them on this subject, I never got too far in their answers. It seems to me that most of their answers were based on generalized stereotypes about asian and white men. On the other side of the coin, every single of these men that my friends have dated or is dating seem to have asian fetishes.
Nevertheless, I see the advantages in dating white men although I have never dated or ever plan to date a white man. In one instance, my friend and her white boyfriend and me and my black boyfriend were on a double date at a Filipino restaurant. The whole time we were there, they waitresses spoke only to my friend's white boyfriend and ignored the rest of us, even when we were ordering! She even handed him the bill and the change after I told her numerous times I was paying. It seems no matter where we go, my friends' white boyfriends always got better service and treatment.
We have to face reality that white Americans have an advantage over the rest of us. In the minds of most Asian-Americans, by emualting them (dating white people, trying to look and dress like white people), we can somehow too have that added advantage.
Nevertheless, I see the advantages in dating white men although I have never dated or ever plan to date a white man. In one instance, my friend and her white boyfriend and me and my black boyfriend were on a double date at a Filipino restaurant. The whole time we were there, they waitresses spoke only to my friend's white boyfriend and ignored the rest of us, even when we were ordering! She even handed him the bill and the change after I told her numerous times I was paying. It seems no matter where we go, my friends' white boyfriends always got better service and treatment.
We have to face reality that white Americans have an advantage over the rest of us. In the minds of most Asian-Americans, by emualting them (dating white people, trying to look and dress like white people), we can somehow too have that added advantage.
This is to AsianDelite:
I am just wondering if you have a preferrence dating black men.
I am just wondering if you have a preferrence dating black men.
Was the waitress filipino?
Asiadelite,
What did you mean by dressing like white people? Wearing Abercrombie and Fitch?
What did you mean by dressing like white people? Wearing Abercrombie and Fitch?
AsianDelite
I strongly disagree.
If he is in a Chinese restaurant, he will get the same treatment (if not worse) 'coz some Chinese, esp. Hongkies get really pissed off by whites who doesn't know how to order.
The very valid reason that I know why the waitress may did so is because whites need "babysitting" when it comes to foreign restaurants. This is in no way racist, but true. Quite often I'm at a dimsum restaurant and I see whites discovering the new world. And the restaurant manager has to introduce food to them because the English-translated menu isn't sufficient. And also they add a lot of soya sauce to the noodle soup and removed the original taste. Go figure.. Well I guess ppl can eat it how they like.
I strongly disagree.
If he is in a Chinese restaurant, he will get the same treatment (if not worse) 'coz some Chinese, esp. Hongkies get really pissed off by whites who doesn't know how to order.
The very valid reason that I know why the waitress may did so is because whites need "babysitting" when it comes to foreign restaurants. This is in no way racist, but true. Quite often I'm at a dimsum restaurant and I see whites discovering the new world. And the restaurant manager has to introduce food to them because the English-translated menu isn't sufficient. And also they add a lot of soya sauce to the noodle soup and removed the original taste. Go figure.. Well I guess ppl can eat it how they like.
First of all I have two sisters, one is married to a WM and they have two kids together. They met each doing what all young Australians do, that is taking a contikit tour around Europe. They both are university educated and have pefessional careers. So their marriage was one base on love. My other sister is also seeing a WM. So I am not against AF/WM relationship one bit as long as it is for the right purpose.
As for myself, I am an engineer and as a result I've many opportunities to work overseas, especially in South East Asia. I've spent the past two years working in Malaysia and Thailand. During my breaks I've also travel a fair bit to Hong Kong. Having spent this amount of time in these countries, I've been all but put off by AF for life.
In Thailand there are pubs that I could go into and would not get served by any of the waitress. However when a WM, no matter how fat, old or ugly walks in they will be fighting each over who would served him. Is it blatantly racism? You bet. Forget trying to meet girls in a nightclub. If you are not white, you simply aren't in the game. When a girl was interested, they would often try to use me to meet WM (I have a lot of WM friends that I hang out with). However this isn't the worst of it. I find that most of the girls that have WM boyfriends are just so stuck up it's not even funny. Even when their boyfriends are quite good friends with me, they still won't speak to me. The lack of respect was amazing.
There was one girl at work that was really into my flat mate (WM from NZ) and you wouldn't believe amount of deception and lies she went to, to try and make him her boyfriend. This girl would arrange group dinners for some of the guys (all WM) in the office and some of her Thai friends (all girls). I was never invited but not that I would have have accepted even if she did ask. However the thing was, she always trying to keep it a secret from me but talking in Thai to my roommate (my roommate has been in Thailand longer than I have and so can speak more than me), which I found funny because my roommate always told me exactly where they were going and who was going. It was so stupid. It's like she was too ashamed to even have one asian guy hanging around her. Anyway, when things didn't work out with my roommate, she blame everything on me. I had jack to do with it. However I can tell you that I took great satisfaction from her failure. For a women with such an evil intend she got exactly what she deserved.
From what I've seen in Thailand and other parts of Asia, AF's that claim they go out with WM because they treat them better. Well I can tell you that is BS. The amount WM worshipping amongst AF is beyond riddiculous. Some of these women get treated so badly it's not funny but as long as they have a WM in their life that is all that matters. The fact that they over 50, fat and ugly is irrelevent to this girls.
I find AF in Australia with WM boyfriends/husband to be no less snobby. It's like they think there are superior or something. Again most of these women wouldn't give me the time or day. So I am sorry if I offend any AF out there who aren't like this. I am sure there are plenty of you. However my life experiences with AF tell me otherwise.
As for myself, I am an engineer and as a result I've many opportunities to work overseas, especially in South East Asia. I've spent the past two years working in Malaysia and Thailand. During my breaks I've also travel a fair bit to Hong Kong. Having spent this amount of time in these countries, I've been all but put off by AF for life.
In Thailand there are pubs that I could go into and would not get served by any of the waitress. However when a WM, no matter how fat, old or ugly walks in they will be fighting each over who would served him. Is it blatantly racism? You bet. Forget trying to meet girls in a nightclub. If you are not white, you simply aren't in the game. When a girl was interested, they would often try to use me to meet WM (I have a lot of WM friends that I hang out with). However this isn't the worst of it. I find that most of the girls that have WM boyfriends are just so stuck up it's not even funny. Even when their boyfriends are quite good friends with me, they still won't speak to me. The lack of respect was amazing.
There was one girl at work that was really into my flat mate (WM from NZ) and you wouldn't believe amount of deception and lies she went to, to try and make him her boyfriend. This girl would arrange group dinners for some of the guys (all WM) in the office and some of her Thai friends (all girls). I was never invited but not that I would have have accepted even if she did ask. However the thing was, she always trying to keep it a secret from me but talking in Thai to my roommate (my roommate has been in Thailand longer than I have and so can speak more than me), which I found funny because my roommate always told me exactly where they were going and who was going. It was so stupid. It's like she was too ashamed to even have one asian guy hanging around her. Anyway, when things didn't work out with my roommate, she blame everything on me. I had jack to do with it. However I can tell you that I took great satisfaction from her failure. For a women with such an evil intend she got exactly what she deserved.
From what I've seen in Thailand and other parts of Asia, AF's that claim they go out with WM because they treat them better. Well I can tell you that is BS. The amount WM worshipping amongst AF is beyond riddiculous. Some of these women get treated so badly it's not funny but as long as they have a WM in their life that is all that matters. The fact that they over 50, fat and ugly is irrelevent to this girls.
I find AF in Australia with WM boyfriends/husband to be no less snobby. It's like they think there are superior or something. Again most of these women wouldn't give me the time or day. So I am sorry if I offend any AF out there who aren't like this. I am sure there are plenty of you. However my life experiences with AF tell me otherwise.
It's surprising that a significant number of Asian males have such negative opinions of interracial marriages. Whenever I see interracial couples on the streets a very warm feeling swells up within me because it is a sign that the barriers between the races are starting to fall.
I also think Eurasian children are on average very beautiful.
I also think Eurasian children are on average very beautiful.
I think the reason AM have a negative opinion of interracial marriage/dating is because it's usually a one-way street: it's more acceptable (and easier) for AF to date WM (or other races of men) than it is for AM to date outside of their race. If things weren't so one-sided, I imagine both AF and AM would feel happier about interracial dating, and nobody would 'flaunt' it or outright hate it.
I used to think all this inequality stuff was a complete myth, but having grown past my mid-twenties I am starting to realize that many AM do have a point. Interracial dating most often favors White people, and White men in particular (White women could probably date interracially as much if they wanted to, but many are discouraged by, of all people, White men).
Dating isn't so much about real, true love as it is about money, power, and social status. I may come off as being pessimistic, but I feel I've just become more realistic as I grow older. That being said, I try not to let these things get to me.
I used to think all this inequality stuff was a complete myth, but having grown past my mid-twenties I am starting to realize that many AM do have a point. Interracial dating most often favors White people, and White men in particular (White women could probably date interracially as much if they wanted to, but many are discouraged by, of all people, White men).
Dating isn't so much about real, true love as it is about money, power, and social status. I may come off as being pessimistic, but I feel I've just become more realistic as I grow older. That being said, I try not to let these things get to me.
MR=MC, You are missing the point here my friend. Most Asian men DON'T have negative views of interracial relationships. In fact I think most of us are all for it. However as GoldseaScrolls pointed out, it's a one way street that heavily favours the AF/non-AM combination or more specifically the AF/WM combo. If all things were fair and equal than no one would give a damn. What irrates guys like myself is the constant down putting we have to deal with from these AF who have this so call "preference" for white men. Again I will stress if this is what they want to do with their lives than that is fine. However when they start imposing their racist view about AM onto their friends, colleagues and other women (invaribly that's what happens) to justify their preference for doing so than it becomes a problem. If you don't think this negative BS will have an impact on your life than you are either dislusional or in a state of denial. However I presume a better explaination is that you are proabably trying to put a positive spin on things.
I know that it won't make the slightest bit of difference to these AF who have already form these prejudice views on AM if we speak out. However I feel it's important that we do. As an AM, we need to let other women out there know that we are able to stand up for ourselves and are able to defend our own tuff. Coz if we don't we all may as well be the wimpy, geeky, asexual AM that these AF continually stereotype us to be.
I know that it won't make the slightest bit of difference to these AF who have already form these prejudice views on AM if we speak out. However I feel it's important that we do. As an AM, we need to let other women out there know that we are able to stand up for ourselves and are able to defend our own tuff. Coz if we don't we all may as well be the wimpy, geeky, asexual AM that these AF continually stereotype us to be.
We do have friends who are an AF/WM couple, and we love them dearly. My mom's cousin also married a Japanese woman. Just thought I'd say that up front so no one takes anything I am about to say the wrong way. I have no problem with AFs being with WM. Still, the double standard does bother me. My husband and I have gotten dirty sideways glances from many strangers on the street. So, I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't care if AFs are with WMs. I just wish that we could be more accepted, too.
I have also noticed (as other posters have) that the WM in AF/WM pairings is usually extremely unattractive (though not always). It seems to be different in the AM/WF couples I've seen. My husband is hot! (And I'm not a toad, if you were thinking the trend is reversed. I look like a busty pixie. heh) Oh well. Looks aren't everything. But it is nice to have someone nice to look at.
Oh well. Love is love, and if anyone has a problem with it, they can shove it.
BTW, if anyone subscribes to the common belief that most WFs aren't into AMs, let me tell you that all of my SWF friends are looking for AMs.
I have also noticed (as other posters have) that the WM in AF/WM pairings is usually extremely unattractive (though not always). It seems to be different in the AM/WF couples I've seen. My husband is hot! (And I'm not a toad, if you were thinking the trend is reversed. I look like a busty pixie. heh) Oh well. Looks aren't everything. But it is nice to have someone nice to look at.
Oh well. Love is love, and if anyone has a problem with it, they can shove it.
BTW, if anyone subscribes to the common belief that most WFs aren't into AMs, let me tell you that all of my SWF friends are looking for AMs.
I'll post this again.
Most AF that go out with WMs are not that good looking.
If your desperate and want Asian females, just sign up for those mail order bride.
Most AF that go out with WMs are not that good looking.
If your desperate and want Asian females, just sign up for those mail order bride.
I believe AM/WF trend is picking up. Last Sunday I saw 2 pairings, one Japanese man with his wife and 3 kids in a Japanese restaurant. The man was average and 3 inches shorter than the female !! The female was hot by my standards and they are really happy. Another time was when I saw this married couple in a Chinese restaurant. A busty WF with an average-looking Chinese man. They were about the same height I think.
So you see, if you reach out more anything is possible. Just work on your charm and be yourself. Have faith in the Asian way of life and your personal qualities.
A busty WF with an average Chinese man? Sounds like us, except that my husband is far from average. 
Actually, people are generally really sweet to us at Chinese restaurants. Our son gets a lot of attention, and they are surprised when my husband asks for the Chinese menu that it is me who orders off of it for us.
Actually, people are generally really sweet to us at Chinese restaurants. Our son gets a lot of attention, and they are surprised when my husband asks for the Chinese menu that it is me who orders off of it for us.
Dalian Moon,
I'm curious. Do you experience this also.
I find AF usually give unapproved or dirty looks (just ignore you if you're lucky), while WF usually have more of a intrigued look and friendly demeanor when you interact with them (as a couple)?
Also, for whatever reason, I find WF's pay more attention and consider you more as an option once they've seen you dating WF. To me, this is proof that the stereotype that AM only date AF is ingrained in a lot of caucasians (to what degree naturally or by media is a mystery).
Just some things I've noticed.
I'm curious. Do you experience this also.
I find AF usually give unapproved or dirty looks (just ignore you if you're lucky), while WF usually have more of a intrigued look and friendly demeanor when you interact with them (as a couple)?
Also, for whatever reason, I find WF's pay more attention and consider you more as an option once they've seen you dating WF. To me, this is proof that the stereotype that AM only date AF is ingrained in a lot of caucasians (to what degree naturally or by media is a mystery).
Just some things I've noticed.
huu76,
I know you ask Dalian Moon the question but I feel I could contribute my thoughts here too. Whenever I am out with a WF, I always get disproving looks from AFs, especially from the ones with WM. It's like they want the best of both worlds. It is this bias that is what is causing a lot of this friction as already discuss.
It's also true that once you are seen with a WF, than other WF will consider you as a dating option. Maybe the extra competition is what is scaring a lot of these AF. Hence it's in their best interest to keep the AM down.
The mentality that AM will only date AF is very much ingrained into a lot of non-asians. I know because upon meeting WF's for the first time, they'll often ask me if I am prepare to marry a non-AF and when I say yes, they'll often say they are quite surprise to hear that.
I have also heard phrases like "why are you going out with that asian guy" or "you're a good looking girl, you can do better than that asian guy" in my life, from people that I rarely know. How did you think they have come to form such negative views about AM?
I know you ask Dalian Moon the question but I feel I could contribute my thoughts here too. Whenever I am out with a WF, I always get disproving looks from AFs, especially from the ones with WM. It's like they want the best of both worlds. It is this bias that is what is causing a lot of this friction as already discuss.
It's also true that once you are seen with a WF, than other WF will consider you as a dating option. Maybe the extra competition is what is scaring a lot of these AF. Hence it's in their best interest to keep the AM down.
The mentality that AM will only date AF is very much ingrained into a lot of non-asians. I know because upon meeting WF's for the first time, they'll often ask me if I am prepare to marry a non-AF and when I say yes, they'll often say they are quite surprise to hear that.
I have also heard phrases like "why are you going out with that asian guy" or "you're a good looking girl, you can do better than that asian guy" in my life, from people that I rarely know. How did you think they have come to form such negative views about AM?
huu-76: I do get a lot of dirty looks from younger AFs, around my age (20s and 30s) but the older women tend to be fine with it. Especially when they see our son. What really ticks me off is when a AF with a WM gives me a look and attitude that says "you poor girl. I got this white guy and you got him." That pisses me off to no end. If I had wanted a white guy, I would have sought one out.
Condor: I have gotten the question "why are you with an Asian guy" many times. Why should I even answer? Would they be asking me that if I was with a white guy? No, they wouldn't . Once, some jackass that I hardly knew even said "you're so pretty. You really don't need to settle." WTF?! How am I settling? I have the man of my dreams. Handsome, successful, caring, a wonderful husband to me and father to our son.
Is it any wonder the guy that said that to me is still single and dateless?
Condor: I have gotten the question "why are you with an Asian guy" many times. Why should I even answer? Would they be asking me that if I was with a white guy? No, they wouldn't . Once, some jackass that I hardly knew even said "you're so pretty. You really don't need to settle." WTF?! How am I settling? I have the man of my dreams. Handsome, successful, caring, a wonderful husband to me and father to our son.
Is it any wonder the guy that said that to me is still single and dateless?
Hey Condor,
Since you are an AM in Oz, I was wondering how prevalent are interracial marriages in multicultural cities
like Sydney and Melbourne ?
Since you are an AM in Oz, I was wondering how prevalent are interracial marriages in multicultural cities
like Sydney and Melbourne ?
Hello it seems like most of the posters here are a bit younger than me (48).
It has never been a problem for me to see AFs with WMs, if it was I'd have a problem with my own sister, who married a good friend of mine from high school. And my brother married a nice Irish Catholic girl.
I married an Asian lady, and it has been a very happy marriage. But I have many WF friends since high school and college days, and still stay in close contact with them, even after more than 25 years. In fact, if we meet at a business conference or the like without our spouses, we'll usually go out to dinner, or shopping on our spare time together. We have often been mistaken as married to each other, since we are wearing our own wedding rings, and enjoying each others' company...of course, in the cases of my friends we've known each other longer than we've known our spouses, even though our friendships never went beyond that. In my youth I was often very self-conscious about my identity, and rather insecure. But these days, it has never occurred to me that other people see us as anything other than a positive thing; certainly I've never gotten negative vibes from others because of the AM/WF thing. My WF friends certainly don't seem to mind being seen with me! Perhaps it's because we're middle aged and already irrelevant:-)? But being older also gives one the liberty of being ourselves and NOT CARING what others may think. Perhaps that will be the case for many of you as well, as the passage of time makes you more comfortable in your own skin. Cheers.
It has never been a problem for me to see AFs with WMs, if it was I'd have a problem with my own sister, who married a good friend of mine from high school. And my brother married a nice Irish Catholic girl.
I married an Asian lady, and it has been a very happy marriage. But I have many WF friends since high school and college days, and still stay in close contact with them, even after more than 25 years. In fact, if we meet at a business conference or the like without our spouses, we'll usually go out to dinner, or shopping on our spare time together. We have often been mistaken as married to each other, since we are wearing our own wedding rings, and enjoying each others' company...of course, in the cases of my friends we've known each other longer than we've known our spouses, even though our friendships never went beyond that. In my youth I was often very self-conscious about my identity, and rather insecure. But these days, it has never occurred to me that other people see us as anything other than a positive thing; certainly I've never gotten negative vibes from others because of the AM/WF thing. My WF friends certainly don't seem to mind being seen with me! Perhaps it's because we're middle aged and already irrelevant:-)? But being older also gives one the liberty of being ourselves and NOT CARING what others may think. Perhaps that will be the case for many of you as well, as the passage of time makes you more comfortable in your own skin. Cheers.
I have a question for anyone else in an AM/WF relationship? Are you able to easily connect with other couples like you?
The woman that introduced me to my husband is also a WF married to an Chinese man. Their daughter is a few years older than our son. They are now some of our best friends. We are also good friends with a Filipino man and WF with a young daughter that are my mom's neighbors. It's not like we make a point of seeking out these people, but it is nice having friends that understand what things are like for us, both within our family, and in the outside world.
The woman that introduced me to my husband is also a WF married to an Chinese man. Their daughter is a few years older than our son. They are now some of our best friends. We are also good friends with a Filipino man and WF with a young daughter that are my mom's neighbors. It's not like we make a point of seeking out these people, but it is nice having friends that understand what things are like for us, both within our family, and in the outside world.
I suppose, we don't really interact any differently from others. However, when I was seeing an Indian girl, it was something special to run into a couple that were the same. Still makes me smile when I see one.
pake,
I don't live in either Melbourne or Syndey so I am not sure whether it's prevalent. I have visited Sydney on a number of ocassion and I do see the odd AM/WF couple. I hit the pubs a lot when I am in Sydney and find WF there are quite open to a conversation or two. So I guess if AM's there are interested in dating WF, I am sure some are open to the idea.
Dalian Moon
The answer is no but you do have a point. Knowing couples who share the sort of obstacles and challenges could have a lot of benefits. I will make a note of that the next time I see an AM/WF couple.
Bill H.
Yep, the older one gets the less one's race seem to matter.
I don't live in either Melbourne or Syndey so I am not sure whether it's prevalent. I have visited Sydney on a number of ocassion and I do see the odd AM/WF couple. I hit the pubs a lot when I am in Sydney and find WF there are quite open to a conversation or two. So I guess if AM's there are interested in dating WF, I am sure some are open to the idea.
Dalian Moon
The answer is no but you do have a point. Knowing couples who share the sort of obstacles and challenges could have a lot of benefits. I will make a note of that the next time I see an AM/WF couple.
Bill H.
Yep, the older one gets the less one's race seem to matter.
Condor, Thanks for your reply. I'm an AM also from OZ but have been an expat in Hawaii for the last 20 years. In the Aloha State the the number of AF/WM relationships vastly outnumber those of the AM/WF, in fact W/M 's (known locally as Haoles) tends to hitch up with any other ethnic mixture rather than WF's. The whites both male and female constitute approx. only 30% of the population so in essence the W/M is limited in his choice of W/F partners but overall I tend to think white males have a strong preference for non white females over here.
You might get a kick out of this Condor .... In Australia I also attended an all white high school and I was the only Asian and probably the only ethnic ! In my year there was this smashing looking white girl, honey blond perfect skin and all the guys had the hots for her. The only trouble was she was always hanging around this guy. He was tall, not bad looking and arrogant and certainly did not acknowledge me , the little Asian guy even though I was in his group ( year 6) . A few years ago I was invited to our high school reunion our 30th in fact ! I just couldn't pass up the opportunity to see some of my old mates and I was also curious to see how this girl would look after all those years. Big disappointment ! she declined to attend for whatever reason. The ex boyfriend , now bald, poggy , much older for his age attended. He didn't get the girl after !! I had a great time and got the last laugh !!!
You might get a kick out of this Condor .... In Australia I also attended an all white high school and I was the only Asian and probably the only ethnic ! In my year there was this smashing looking white girl, honey blond perfect skin and all the guys had the hots for her. The only trouble was she was always hanging around this guy. He was tall, not bad looking and arrogant and certainly did not acknowledge me , the little Asian guy even though I was in his group ( year 6) . A few years ago I was invited to our high school reunion our 30th in fact ! I just couldn't pass up the opportunity to see some of my old mates and I was also curious to see how this girl would look after all those years. Big disappointment ! she declined to attend for whatever reason. The ex boyfriend , now bald, poggy , much older for his age attended. He didn't get the girl after !! I had a great time and got the last laugh !!!
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It's only natural that people seek out other people that are in similar situations, whether those situations regard relationships, jobs, college, childhood background, etc.
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There you go. I believe that in any successful/happy couple, their similarities far outweigh their differences. For instance, you see an interracial couple, who quite literally are as different in their physical appearance as night and day. However, they very probably have a lot in common, such as educational level, socio-economic background, job level, interests/hobbies and so forth.
I have both AF/WM and AM/WF relationships in my family, and all I can say is that they got together and stay together because they lvoe each other and have much more in common than the obvious difference of ethnnicity. In fact, I would venture to say that when these couples were in the dating stage, race had almost no consideration for them.
MIght I add that, despite the obvious physical differences, Asians and whites make the most beautiful children! Yes, I am totally bragging on my son. 
its fine if asian women want to date white guys but why they gotta resent us tho? cant people just treat one another with respect???? how hard is that???????
I completely agree. I mean, I'm not attracted to WMs, but I've got nothing against them. If I did, I'd have a problem with my dad, uncles, etc. People should only be resented if they are jerks. And being a jerk transends racial boundaries *sigh*.
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| It depends on the reason the AF dates WM, if it is really love, then great. Unfortunately a large percentage of the AF/WM mix is for other reasons, perception of integration, money, etc. I often see otherwise normal looking AF going out with what society would catagorize as undesirable WM, Dorks (without brain), fat, ugly, old men. Some ethnic backgrounds such as filipinos, have a porportionally higher out marriage rates to WM and it is predominately based on money. I have seen a gorgous, absolutely stunning young pinay lady going out with a late 40's, big arse fat f***, and their 3 little kids. She spoke no english, we can derive what their marriage means. |
Hmmmm this seems contorversial.....but for the record, I am an AF married to an AM. And practically all my AF girlfriends are married to AMs. But we are nice, normal looking girls. Probably not the hot stuff all the AMs seem to be looking for. Maybe the problem is the AMs are too hung up on hot girls?
Jantan Indo Macan Cina, you are def a Indo Chinese! R u in the US?
I am an AF who is married to a WM and have two children. We are very happy. My older brother is married to a MF and younger brother is married to a AF and they are also both very happy and have children of their own. I don't think race makes boundaries for relationships. It's people and their own comfort levels.
If a white boy and Asian woman truly desire each other, than go for it. I sometimes wonder what the hell the white boy is thinking sometimes, because I usually don't find his Asian girl "attractive" by any means, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If he and she REALLY want to have children and spend the rest of their lives with one another, so be it. 
I'm not jealous and us guys shouldn't be. 
Of course, there is something inherently wrong with 1.) gals of any race who exclusively date white dudes, 2.) 40%+ of Japanese women who outmarry, and 3.) white guys accusing white women of being shallow, self-centered, etc.
I'm not jealous and us guys shouldn't be. Of course, there is something inherently wrong with 1.) gals of any race who exclusively date white dudes, 2.) 40%+ of Japanese women who outmarry, and 3.) white guys accusing white women of being shallow, self-centered, etc.
I am an Asian Man from Los Angeles, and I have dated women of different races from all over the USA, and world. The white girls want an AM for his money or job status, but she truly desires the white man or black man. It is truly hard to find a white girl who is not selfish, and who is humble and caring. The "player" white girls will use an AM, just like most AM will use a white girl for "fun". I know many, many AF who would not date an AM, mostly because of peer pressure and her own lack of pride in her own culture. Most white girls, black girls, latin girls, etc. see the AM as a geek and too serious about school, work, etc. They seek "fun", which is not the typical "serious" personality of AMs. AFs are under a lot of pressure from the other girls to date ONLY white dudes, even if the white dudes are dealing drugs, or lands in jail. This is from real life experience. AFs have much higher standards for AMs, but hardly any or no standards for whites.
The best explanation that I have is based on our evolution -- the strongest wins. Asian Males are culturally taught to be polite and softer (less confrontational) than their white or black counterparts. After all, the USA or "whites" won the war over Japan, so it is in our natural evolution that Japanses females pick or desire the "stronger" race (the whites who won the war). What the J females do not know is that the white dudes that they pick don't have a chance with most of the white girls. With China, Japan, and the rest of Asia coming to power in the next decade, you will see a transformation of desires to the Asian Male.
The best explanation that I have is based on our evolution -- the strongest wins. Asian Males are culturally taught to be polite and softer (less confrontational) than their white or black counterparts. After all, the USA or "whites" won the war over Japan, so it is in our natural evolution that Japanses females pick or desire the "stronger" race (the whites who won the war). What the J females do not know is that the white dudes that they pick don't have a chance with most of the white girls. With China, Japan, and the rest of Asia coming to power in the next decade, you will see a transformation of desires to the Asian Male.
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| The white girls want an AM for his money or job status, but she truly desires the white man or black man. |
I don't know if that should be a such a generalized statement, but my wife certainly didn't marry me for my money or my job status. If so she would have fled a long time ago when I got canned from my job. Instead she's choosing to stick with me, support me in my attempt to find a better life (doing something I love (photography) rather than a joe-job at a burger joint or become an office cubicle rat). If the above statement is true...then y'all are lookin' for the wrong type girl, guys.
Here's the honest response to the question:
MANY Asian women ARE attracted to white men. AF/WM couples are BY FAR the most common interracial couples in the U.S. The Asian women who are involved with white men are usually some of the MOST ATTRACTIVE, which is why they can score a white man in the first place.
What are the reasons AFs are attracted to WMs? There's many contributing factors. First, white men are considered the most "American." One cannot objectively say that WMs don't best represent America. Whether you like it or not, the U.S. was founded by white males from Britian and then later, other parts of Western Europe. American culture and values are rooted directly from those of Western Europe and the original Puritans who settled here. Many women of foreign decent (not just Asian) desire to be as "American" as possible. A white man helps achieve this.
Another factor is that white men are considered much more masculine than Asian men--regardless of whether or not it's fair. White males are GENERALLY taller, broader shouldered, and larger muscled. The faces are obviously more European, and in today's society, European features are considered most desirable (again... fair or not). This part is true of women as well, which is why I contend that an Asian woman must be VERY GORGEOUS to score a white guy. For the record, most of my white friends are not attracted to Asian women.
A final consideration is the vast extent of the American Empire. Just consider the countries where the U.S. has military bases and troops (predominanty white, black and hispanic) stationed...Japan, Korea, Phillipines, Hawaii. To many Asian women who have experienced white U.S. soldiers in Asia, white men represent virtuous warriors, protecting people around the world---much like the knights of Feudal Europe.
Cut through the B.S. Generally speaking, Asian women are attracted to white men. The only reason you don't see even more Asian women with white men is because of social/parental pressure within the Asian community. As time progresses, and old-school Asian fathers lose control of their daughters, you will only see more and more Asian girls with white guys---mark my word.
MANY Asian women ARE attracted to white men. AF/WM couples are BY FAR the most common interracial couples in the U.S. The Asian women who are involved with white men are usually some of the MOST ATTRACTIVE, which is why they can score a white man in the first place.
What are the reasons AFs are attracted to WMs? There's many contributing factors. First, white men are considered the most "American." One cannot objectively say that WMs don't best represent America. Whether you like it or not, the U.S. was founded by white males from Britian and then later, other parts of Western Europe. American culture and values are rooted directly from those of Western Europe and the original Puritans who settled here. Many women of foreign decent (not just Asian) desire to be as "American" as possible. A white man helps achieve this.
Another factor is that white men are considered much more masculine than Asian men--regardless of whether or not it's fair. White males are GENERALLY taller, broader shouldered, and larger muscled. The faces are obviously more European, and in today's society, European features are considered most desirable (again... fair or not). This part is true of women as well, which is why I contend that an Asian woman must be VERY GORGEOUS to score a white guy. For the record, most of my white friends are not attracted to Asian women.
A final consideration is the vast extent of the American Empire. Just consider the countries where the U.S. has military bases and troops (predominanty white, black and hispanic) stationed...Japan, Korea, Phillipines, Hawaii. To many Asian women who have experienced white U.S. soldiers in Asia, white men represent virtuous warriors, protecting people around the world---much like the knights of Feudal Europe.
Cut through the B.S. Generally speaking, Asian women are attracted to white men. The only reason you don't see even more Asian women with white men is because of social/parental pressure within the Asian community. As time progresses, and old-school Asian fathers lose control of their daughters, you will only see more and more Asian girls with white guys---mark my word.
You see AF with WM in Hawaii all the time . It's about MONEY.
QUOTE(Whitestallion @ May 26 2006, 06:13 PM)
Here's the honest response to the question:
MANY Asian women ARE attracted to white men. AF/WM couples are BY FAR the most common interracial couples in the U.S. The Asian women who are involved with white men are usually some of the MOST ATTRACTIVE, which is why they can score a white man in the first place.
What are the reasons AFs are attracted to WMs? There's many contributing factors. First, white men are considered the most "American." One cannot objectively say that WMs don't best represent America. Whether you like it or not, the U.S. was founded by white males from Britian and then later, other parts of Western Europe. American culture and values are rooted directly from those of Western Europe and the original Puritans who settled here. Many women of foreign decent (not just Asian) desire to be as "American" as possible. A white man helps achieve this.
Another factor is that white men are considered much more masculine than Asian men--regardless of whether or not it's fair. White males are GENERALLY taller, broader shouldered, and larger muscled. The faces are obviously more European, and in today's society, European features are considered most desirable (again... fair or not). This part is true of women as well, which is why I contend that an Asian woman must be VERY GORGEOUS to score a white guy. For the record, most of my white friends are not attracted to Asian women.
A final consideration is the vast extent of the American Empire. Just consider the countries where the U.S. has military bases and troops (predominanty white, black and hispanic) stationed...Japan, Korea, Phillipines, Hawaii. To many Asian women who have experienced white U.S. soldiers in Asia, white men represent virtuous warriors, protecting people around the world---much like the knights of Feudal Europe.
Cut through the B.S. Generally speaking, Asian women are attracted to white men. The only reason you don't see even more Asian women with white men is because of social/parental pressure within the Asian community. As time progresses, and old-school Asian fathers lose control of their daughters, you will only see more and more Asian girls with white guys---mark my word.
Ok, My friend,White Stallion
You are a typical white chauvinistic male who has deluded himself.
You are obviously brainwashed by hollywood and don't have a mind of your own.
get a life! loser
MANY Asian women ARE attracted to white men. AF/WM couples are BY FAR the most common interracial couples in the U.S. The Asian women who are involved with white men are usually some of the MOST ATTRACTIVE, which is why they can score a white man in the first place.
What are the reasons AFs are attracted to WMs? There's many contributing factors. First, white men are considered the most "American." One cannot objectively say that WMs don't best represent America. Whether you like it or not, the U.S. was founded by white males from Britian and then later, other parts of Western Europe. American culture and values are rooted directly from those of Western Europe and the original Puritans who settled here. Many women of foreign decent (not just Asian) desire to be as "American" as possible. A white man helps achieve this.
Another factor is that white men are considered much more masculine than Asian men--regardless of whether or not it's fair. White males are GENERALLY taller, broader shouldered, and larger muscled. The faces are obviously more European, and in today's society, European features are considered most desirable (again... fair or not). This part is true of women as well, which is why I contend that an Asian woman must be VERY GORGEOUS to score a white guy. For the record, most of my white friends are not attracted to Asian women.
A final consideration is the vast extent of the American Empire. Just consider the countries where the U.S. has military bases and troops (predominanty white, black and hispanic) stationed...Japan, Korea, Phillipines, Hawaii. To many Asian women who have experienced white U.S. soldiers in Asia, white men represent virtuous warriors, protecting people around the world---much like the knights of Feudal Europe.
Cut through the B.S. Generally speaking, Asian women are attracted to white men. The only reason you don't see even more Asian women with white men is because of social/parental pressure within the Asian community. As time progresses, and old-school Asian fathers lose control of their daughters, you will only see more and more Asian girls with white guys---mark my word.
Ok, My friend,White Stallion
You are a typical white chauvinistic male who has deluded himself.
You are obviously brainwashed by hollywood and don't have a mind of your own.
get a life! loser
Allow me to add my two cents,but the most numerous interracial combination that i keep seeing every single day of my life is Black Male-White Female,by a wide margin,and then followed by White Male-Asian Female,and then some minor numbers of White Male- Latinas,and here and there some Asian Male-White Female,and further dwon some Latin Male-White Female,with a little trickle of Asian Male-Black Female.Go figure!
They (AFs) have many reasons...
Just keep in mind that their unnatural preference for white men hurts us (AM) deeply and most all AFs could care less how much they hurt us.
Also keep in mind AMs have done nothing wrong to deserve this sort of treatment from AFs.
Falling in love, embracing a women, and experiencing intimacy are rights for all man. When these basic needs are taken away artificially by groups of people (WMs/AFs) for selfish and shallow reasons, throught manipulative ways (white media) then these groups neither deserve our affection or our patience.
I am only one person, but I do my best to help AM gain access to women of non Asian races. Whether through advice, encouragement or education I am always aware how important it is to make a effort to break the monopoly.
By its very natural the forces/entities that create and maintain monopolies are evil.
Just keep in mind that their unnatural preference for white men hurts us (AM) deeply and most all AFs could care less how much they hurt us.
Also keep in mind AMs have done nothing wrong to deserve this sort of treatment from AFs.
Falling in love, embracing a women, and experiencing intimacy are rights for all man. When these basic needs are taken away artificially by groups of people (WMs/AFs) for selfish and shallow reasons, throught manipulative ways (white media) then these groups neither deserve our affection or our patience.
I am only one person, but I do my best to help AM gain access to women of non Asian races. Whether through advice, encouragement or education I am always aware how important it is to make a effort to break the monopoly.
By its very natural the forces/entities that create and maintain monopolies are evil.
QUOTE(Ultima_Nemesis @ Dec 29 2004, 01:41 PM)
You know how in Pokemon you got the common Pokemons but there is the big huge one you are looking for? Well the big huge mega super one I'm looking for is the ultimately rare Black Female and Asian Male Interracial Relationship. I have yet in my life to ever see those. So those are the ones I am looking after for. If you get the those two races of those specific genders to finally mix, you got the whole granddaddy of Interracial relationships.
whilst many of you are clearly being a little paranoid -- Ultima's post makes pretty clear what is one of the major issues with Asian guys, namely they spend way too much time obsessing over video games / lan parties -- that's just the kind of behaviour that doesn't appeal to many women.
the issue is not about race, and in the 21st century it's no longer about money, (and very rarely about green cards, as seems to be implied here) -- it's about attitude -- you've simply gotta get out more and live life !
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