Also i said if we really been bullied we should fight back, but i always wonderin' why other kids in the school like to bully or take advantage on asian? I mean why they like to pick up asian? I heard a lot of asian kids been bullied in school. Are we really that weak?

And guess what my experience tell me not only white kids like to bully, but also black and hispanic bullies like to pick on us. I saw some kids who's been harrassed by a buncha mexicans in school. EVERYDAY about 6~7 mexican around him and take money from him. They also like to make fun on us with some offensive jokes that i never seen they used among themselves.

This usually happened in elementary or middle school. I also heard some of this things even happened in high school. Why they like to pick on us?

CWG, I guess asians are seen as easy targets. When I started high school, I got into a lot of fights because people try to bully me as well. However after knocking a few kids out I was never picked on again. It also helped that I developed a reputation for being quite hardnose and aggressive on the sporting fields. When my younger brother attend the same high school, no one even bothered him. So I guess it's a case of asians having the courage to stand up for themselves.

of course, it depends upon where you're at that decides whether asian kids are being picked on any more than other kids.

hell, i went to school from kindergarten thru 6th grade, and it was all black. bullies picked on those they thought they could get away picking on. they tried me, but since my dad taught me how to fight (and fight dirty), nobody tried after 3rd grade.

in 7-8 grade, there was a mix of black and white (only one asian, pandora, who was half asian. as she was pretty, all the guys, black and white, catered to her every whim), and it was the white kids who got picked on by both the blacks and the whites.

in high school, the bullies tended to run in little gangs, and STILL picked on the smallest of the lot (even in groups, they were too scared to mess with anyone who was average size or bigger). that's bully mentality, to pick on those they can get away with picking on.

it goes beyond color.

Gillete, can't say I disagree with you too much. Bullies always tend to pick on the weaker kids. Physical size plays an important part. However I had a friend who has two boys that are quite small but he enrols them in martial art class and encourage them to play sports. As a result his two boys are rarely picked on. Therefore parents can play an important part in ensuring their kids won't get bullied.

I think you guys are not quite right: physical size is important but i see some kids take advantage on a 5'11 asian guy....all those kids are smaller. I think it's because his mentality...seriously sometimes some asians r too naive and a kinda bitch. But i think it's actually not depend on race...a russian kid were beat up by me couple months ago because he's bitchin. All the races have bitch but a lot of asians were taught to be a submissive to everyone and a grade A holder (I'm quite luckier i don't have that kind of parents: My parents are more open-minded) .i think the way we were taught up is the reason why we're easy targets.

condor, whassup?

what i should have said was bullies TEND to pick on the small AND/OR those they can get away with bullying. i knew a white guy back in the day that was my height and had about 20 pounds on me (i was SKINNY back in highschool...6'3" and 125 pounds. in 7th grade, about 5'8" and 120 pounds). his own BROTHER, a 5th grader, joined in on the bullying act. it was sad. since me and another black guy (a small guy who nobody picked on) didn't tease him, he felt he could seek sanctuary with us. we had to decline, since he had to learn to fight his own battles.

that said, they picked this guy because he allowed them to pick on him.


to c.w.g., yeah, tall/big kids get picked on, too. if they don't fight back, they'll get it, regardless of color. i was lucky, my dad went out of his way to teach me how to fight before i started school. he even taught me how to sucker would be bullies into swinging first, so i could control WHEN i'd beat them up. but the bottom line is, i wasn't an easy target for bullying, so they moved on to someone else.

as you're still in school, if you're friends with any asian kid (or for that matter, any kid) who gets picked on, help them out by telling them to fight back. most bullies, even if they beat up a would be victim, aren't likely to continue bullying that person. its just easier for them to pick on someone who DOESN'T fight back.

G'day gillete. Things are going pretty good in this part of the world thanks mate. Just been really busy over the spring period hence I haven't been posting much on this board. I own a house in the burbs over here and have been spending most of my spare time in the garden to ensure my backyard doesn't turn into a jungle. Only thing I am not too happy about is how poorly our national rugby team (the Wallabies) are playing. They just can't seem to play a decent game.

How are things going in Chicago?

I have got friends coming over for a BBQ tonight, so I better go clean up around the house. Anyway if you want to drop me a personel line, you can do so at wallabies2003@hotmail.com.

Have a good one.

Condor, all is cool in Chicago (VERY cool, nay, COLD, last week. Temps below freezing and such.

The Chicago White Sox won the World Series, the Chicago Bears are on a seven game winning streak and the Chicago Bulls...well, they're still rebuilding after Jordon.

Came back from Vancouver last week, visiting my girlfriend, so all is good in my world.

I'll shoot ya an email later...for now, its work.

I agree wholeheartedly with Gillette about fighting back. Sometimes you just have take a stand and make yourself proud of who you are. Martial arts and hanging around with buddies will help out too.

Hi Gillete, glad to hear things are going well in your part of the world. Yeah I used to watch the Bulls a lot when Jordan was playing for them. Basketball was my No. 1 sport growing as kid. I did alright at it too but wasn't quite good enough to make a career out of it and by the time I was a bit older rugby become my passion.

Do you attend any of the Bulls or white sox games? Also is your gf in Vancouver? I guess you don't mind long distance relationships then. I had one, which I found was a nightmare.

Anyway, take it easy.

Well I went to a school with all black as you have heard in many cases and have been picked on till high school when i started to bulk up etc. its a matter that cannot really be helped because we are the minorities in America it would probably be the same situation in any other country. And about being weak your culture does not define how strong or powerful you are, you choose yourself whether it be words or fighting.

Well ... this is what I would tell my son if I had one.

White boys harrasse simply because they have a legacy of acting racist.
Other boys do it because they feel the winning crowd should act this way, they feel it elevates them a class.

None of them really realizes why they do it.
Its part of the American experience.

I do not condone violence, but I had to beat up the most athletic white boy in my school (all american football, basketball star and racist) inorder to silence the rest of the white boys in my school.

Its a simple and crude technique, but most effective. 4 years in martial arts and a natural talent for speed helped.

I was 2nd shortest in my class when I beat up the biggest kid. Only after my new bruce lee reputation did I spring up and become one of the biggest kid in my class.

so size really doesn't matter.

the saddest part was that non of the other asian boys tried to help me, and the asian girls definately sided with the winning, fashionable crowd during the time I was bullied (yup, even back then they acted this way, nothing new). Only after I fought back did the asians side with me, and the asian girls liked me.... I find this very depressing. I have to literally beat someone's face in to get the attention of asian girls.