Fellow Asians:
I have finally found an ethnic group that hates us more than the blacks. The italians.
1. Sofia Coppola -- Lost In Translation. End of story.
2. Quentin Tarantino -- Kill Bill. End of story.
3. Jay Leno -- said "two Wongs don't make a right"
4. Tom DeFalco -- created the character Jimmy Yama in spider-girl comics
5. Jon Favreau (yes, he is italian despite his name) -- put the Mandarin in the new Iron Man movie.
6. Ralph Macchio -- senior editor at Marvel Comics. Assisted in creating spider-girl, the most anti-Asian marvel comic series ever.
What can we do about it?
1. Call Marvel and complain until their ears bleed -- 212-576-4015
2. Call Quentin Tarantino -- 323-951-4600
3. Call the producers of Kill Bill and Lost In Racism -- Erica Steinberg 212-941-3800, Fred Roos 310-470-9212
Full Version: Why We Should Hate Italians
how do 'blacks' hate asians? what is your measure of the extent of this alleged 'black hate' of asians?
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| how do 'blacks' hate asians |
Don't know what the situation is like in the US but generally blacks (Africans) and asians get along quite well in Australia from what I've seen anyways.
heya, condor....i've been out for a BIT. what's going on in aussie-land?
Hi Gillette,
Never mind the "Blacks hate Asians" remark, I never personally believed that. What's true is that there are more tensions between African and Asian Americans because of Caucasian rules and policies which generally pitch minorities against one another. But this is not a rant at the White power either!
Here in London, UK there are also tensions between Blacks and Asians - but in the British definition, Asians is a group comprised of people coming from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka only and Chinese, Japanese, Filippinos, Koreans, Vietnamese, etc. are ususally referred to as Other or Chinese in racial surveys - but I think it's something that the media usually blow out of proportions.
Anyway my main point here is that as Asians, Africans or any other ethnic minority we should support each other.
As for Smoke Panther's comments as far as I know:
1) "Although Tarantino had nothing to do with the creation of either *Chungking Express* or *Hero*, it is only his name (as in "Quentin Tarantino Presents") that has helped ease such films into mainstream America's cinematic consciousness" quoted from http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cf...=21&ItemID=8079
2) Although it seems DC Comics are doing more to introduce ethnic minority superheroes into comics - see this article from the New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/28/arts/28g...=rssnyt&emc=rss - let's not forget that Greg Pak has been working for Marvel Comics as well and he's done a pretty good job on the short-lived Warlock series and X-Men: Phoenix. Check out his website http://www.pakbuzz.com/phoenix/
3) What about putting the Mandarin into the Iron Man movie? I see it could be an opportunity for an Asian actor to get a job. Didn't Rick Yune play bad guys in The Fast & The Furious (Johnny Tran) and Die Another Day (Zao)? He didn't do a bad job and I thought he came across as pretty cool. I admit I could be wrong on this because I haven't seen him in any other movie since that (stupid) James Bond movie back in 2002. Any news about what he's up to would be very welcome. I think the guy's really cool.
That's it. I hope this will be an interesting piece of reading for you guys out there. Check out this great site which focuses on news about Asian Americans and ethnic minorities: http://www.angryasianman.com. It's truly a tremendous source of information. And on a daily basis that is!
Take care,
Eddie
Never mind the "Blacks hate Asians" remark, I never personally believed that. What's true is that there are more tensions between African and Asian Americans because of Caucasian rules and policies which generally pitch minorities against one another. But this is not a rant at the White power either!
Here in London, UK there are also tensions between Blacks and Asians - but in the British definition, Asians is a group comprised of people coming from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka only and Chinese, Japanese, Filippinos, Koreans, Vietnamese, etc. are ususally referred to as Other or Chinese in racial surveys - but I think it's something that the media usually blow out of proportions.
Anyway my main point here is that as Asians, Africans or any other ethnic minority we should support each other.
As for Smoke Panther's comments as far as I know:
1) "Although Tarantino had nothing to do with the creation of either *Chungking Express* or *Hero*, it is only his name (as in "Quentin Tarantino Presents") that has helped ease such films into mainstream America's cinematic consciousness" quoted from http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cf...=21&ItemID=8079
2) Although it seems DC Comics are doing more to introduce ethnic minority superheroes into comics - see this article from the New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/28/arts/28g...=rssnyt&emc=rss - let's not forget that Greg Pak has been working for Marvel Comics as well and he's done a pretty good job on the short-lived Warlock series and X-Men: Phoenix. Check out his website http://www.pakbuzz.com/phoenix/
3) What about putting the Mandarin into the Iron Man movie? I see it could be an opportunity for an Asian actor to get a job. Didn't Rick Yune play bad guys in The Fast & The Furious (Johnny Tran) and Die Another Day (Zao)? He didn't do a bad job and I thought he came across as pretty cool. I admit I could be wrong on this because I haven't seen him in any other movie since that (stupid) James Bond movie back in 2002. Any news about what he's up to would be very welcome. I think the guy's really cool.
That's it. I hope this will be an interesting piece of reading for you guys out there. Check out this great site which focuses on news about Asian Americans and ethnic minorities: http://www.angryasianman.com. It's truly a tremendous source of information. And on a daily basis that is!
Take care,
Eddie
I used to think the same way you do,but, i did some homework,and found out that sometimes there's a human trait in all of us,no matter what racial group we belong to,make us see evil in other races that we "perceive" as "inferior"to ourselves.
I am not making amends or defending any ethnic group in particular. Prejudice is a powerful
characteristic that can can create a lifelong "bad habit" of judging other people of different races.
I saw many cases of blacks in harlem ny and other black communities targeting korean shops for robbery and theft,just because the "freaking koreans" had money to open bodegas and stores in the "ghetto". korean and chinese businesses had a bad reputation,according to blacks, to "diss" black customers,or to suspect they might rob their stores. So that sort of paranoia and tension created many unpleasant situations that caused friction and violence to erupt in many neighborhoods.
I have noticed very little italian-asian racial hatred as to become an alarming issue. While asian and italian gangs have been fighting each other for control of some imaginary "turf" in their respective areas of activity has been more common than anything. There's always been violent confrontation among these "thugs". But I have noticed,at least in NY city many italian-asian couples and they seem happy witheach other,same goes for black-asian couples. I guess "prejudice" and "racism will always exist nomatter what is part of of our human heritage. We can always remember how the irish and the italians,and other "dark skinned" europeans were discriminated against in early american history, or in northern europe too. Or the more recent jewish holocaust,etc.
I am not making amends or defending any ethnic group in particular. Prejudice is a powerful
characteristic that can can create a lifelong "bad habit" of judging other people of different races.
I saw many cases of blacks in harlem ny and other black communities targeting korean shops for robbery and theft,just because the "freaking koreans" had money to open bodegas and stores in the "ghetto". korean and chinese businesses had a bad reputation,according to blacks, to "diss" black customers,or to suspect they might rob their stores. So that sort of paranoia and tension created many unpleasant situations that caused friction and violence to erupt in many neighborhoods.
I have noticed very little italian-asian racial hatred as to become an alarming issue. While asian and italian gangs have been fighting each other for control of some imaginary "turf" in their respective areas of activity has been more common than anything. There's always been violent confrontation among these "thugs". But I have noticed,at least in NY city many italian-asian couples and they seem happy witheach other,same goes for black-asian couples. I guess "prejudice" and "racism will always exist nomatter what is part of of our human heritage. We can always remember how the irish and the italians,and other "dark skinned" europeans were discriminated against in early american history, or in northern europe too. Or the more recent jewish holocaust,etc.
I do think that for some reason...Italians don't care for us...as far as the places I've been to in Italy. In Sigonella and Naples...I've had Italians act
disrespectful and rude towards me..but were more accomodating to my female friends who are black. From what I understand about their
culture...they are behind the times. They seem to also have a fetish for black females...because they would harass my friends and say
"LIL Kim".....personally..Lil Kim is not remotely attractive to me at all...but they find that attractive. It's like asians are ugly or something.
ANd I happen to know I AM FAR FROM UGLY. As far as..americanized Italians...I don't think they feel like that towards asian females. It's pretty much .....if she's pretty or not...not about her race. I've also been to Rome....where Italians are used to tourists...and were very respectful towards me and seem more educated.
I used to serve in the U.S. Navy and was stationed in Italy.....I've been in Naples and Sigonella. Let me tell you....If your asian...they act either
rude or indifferent towards you. Their also behind the times...and 90% of them in these areas are unemployed. They have a black fetish
over there. I had some black female friends...and they would always look over my head...and give them attention. They would say "LIL KIM"
or "BELLA." I know for a fact that I am a very attractive asian female and even prettier...but that did not matter. It's like were ugly to them
for some reason or just disregarded. If their ideal beauty is someone that looks as trashy and fake as "LiL Kim"...then there's no
accounting for taste. I've been to Rome...but the attitudes are different. They are obviously more open minded and educated. And the
Italians in Rome are very considerate and nice "genuinely." I've heard from friends that the Italians in Sig and Naples thought asians
were dirty...or something to that effect. Also....that they hold a long grudge when asians fought them in war. Anyway....if your asian and
you want a Italian stallion ...it's not going to happen. Americanized Italians are alot more outgoing and I've seen them date asians.
rude or indifferent towards you. Their also behind the times...and 90% of them in these areas are unemployed. They have a black fetish
over there. I had some black female friends...and they would always look over my head...and give them attention. They would say "LIL KIM"
or "BELLA." I know for a fact that I am a very attractive asian female and even prettier...but that did not matter. It's like were ugly to them
for some reason or just disregarded. If their ideal beauty is someone that looks as trashy and fake as "LiL Kim"...then there's no
accounting for taste. I've been to Rome...but the attitudes are different. They are obviously more open minded and educated. And the
Italians in Rome are very considerate and nice "genuinely." I've heard from friends that the Italians in Sig and Naples thought asians
were dirty...or something to that effect. Also....that they hold a long grudge when asians fought them in war. Anyway....if your asian and
you want a Italian stallion ...it's not going to happen. Americanized Italians are alot more outgoing and I've seen them date asians.
Well, we do live a white dominated society, I don't think this is just an Italian American thing, more of a general white American society thing. But that among the powerful people who have/control the voice, any society, there's always gonna be no lack of sleazy ignorant and, conservative (in many senses of the word) types who believes that others should be suppressed, you know.
All the power ladder, imaging, propaganda, making someone look smaller in a camera shot, these small minded b****es have got these things down to a science forever now. Especially in an adolescent society like American where these kinds of middle school mentality is the overall norm.. Years ago when I saw how crazy ppl were over Pulp Fiction, and I myself thought it's a pretty whiney faggy little adolescent hormonal movie, I began to realize what teensie bitches we're in for a long ride with. I commented this to some other AA's, but some of them, are a bit bitchy themselves, just scoffed and said "that's the way of the world" I was only beginning to learn what the bitches are about back then. But all this is true of just about any society. And whatchu gonna do about it you know, know it for what it is, lay low, make good of your opportunities when it comes.
In any society, the powerful rob and cheat for their selfish needs the powerful way, and the small rob and cheat for their selfish need the small way. Know your place and make most of it
But yeah, when I saw Lost in Translation I too thought, what a load of racist horsesh**. I had to read up a bit on Sofie Copola to see who this sleazy character this c**t was. But you see Bill Murray and that Scarlett Johansson, and you should already know it's a case of sleazy director casting well known sleazy actors for a sleazy movie. Should not be a shocker.
Same with having read Memoirs of a Geisha (author is a white fag writing about Asian prostitution, of course it's gonna become a big budget movie).
All this didn't surprise me though, because Asian Am bashing has been the norm in media representation forever. It's how the Asian-bashing female writers like Amy Tan and Makine Hong Kingston gets widely published. These are very old news. Read up your Asian American history.
All the power ladder, imaging, propaganda, making someone look smaller in a camera shot, these small minded b****es have got these things down to a science forever now. Especially in an adolescent society like American where these kinds of middle school mentality is the overall norm.. Years ago when I saw how crazy ppl were over Pulp Fiction, and I myself thought it's a pretty whiney faggy little adolescent hormonal movie, I began to realize what teensie bitches we're in for a long ride with. I commented this to some other AA's, but some of them, are a bit bitchy themselves, just scoffed and said "that's the way of the world" I was only beginning to learn what the bitches are about back then. But all this is true of just about any society. And whatchu gonna do about it you know, know it for what it is, lay low, make good of your opportunities when it comes.
In any society, the powerful rob and cheat for their selfish needs the powerful way, and the small rob and cheat for their selfish need the small way. Know your place and make most of it
But yeah, when I saw Lost in Translation I too thought, what a load of racist horsesh**. I had to read up a bit on Sofie Copola to see who this sleazy character this c**t was. But you see Bill Murray and that Scarlett Johansson, and you should already know it's a case of sleazy director casting well known sleazy actors for a sleazy movie. Should not be a shocker.
Same with having read Memoirs of a Geisha (author is a white fag writing about Asian prostitution, of course it's gonna become a big budget movie).
All this didn't surprise me though, because Asian Am bashing has been the norm in media representation forever. It's how the Asian-bashing female writers like Amy Tan and Makine Hong Kingston gets widely published. These are very old news. Read up your Asian American history.
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| author is a white fag ... |
Dude, you're a hypocrite. And an idiot.
I am not sure if blacks go out of their way to hate and humiliate other races as white do.
I think to point out Italians is unfair. Whites in general tend to behave in this manner when they produce films. Its a integral part of their culture. Pride through humiliation of others.
Check out the recent Russian protests and riots. They not only hate asians but would like to murder any they encounter and they are not afraid to publicize it in their PR.
I think to point out Italians is unfair. Whites in general tend to behave in this manner when they produce films. Its a integral part of their culture. Pride through humiliation of others.
Check out the recent Russian protests and riots. They not only hate asians but would like to murder any they encounter and they are not afraid to publicize it in their PR.
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