646-283-3152 Cellphone Lisa Ling: Tele-Kinetic Explorer Lisa Ling slows down just long enough to share her views on Rick Yune, Old Navy and her new life as TV's most peripatetic journalist. Lisa Ling is a body in motion and she isn't about to violate any laws of physics by slowing down without something to absorb her momentum. As near as she can figure, that thing will take the form of a stationary behind-the-camera job in about two years, maybe three. Why would she give up a dream career in her prime? For the answer we have to back up to the very beginning. Lisa Ling was born on August 30, 1973 in Sacramento. As a 15-year-old high schooler, she was pushed by her speech teacher to enter an open audition for a syndicated teen magazine show called Scratch. Five hundred other kids had the same idea. Ling's potential as an appealing TV personality was immediately recognized and she was one of four teens chosen. She went from being an oddball Asian kid from a broken home in a white suburb to being a charmed denizen of the surrogate reality that had been filling the void in her life. By the time she was ready for college, she had proven enough of a standout to land a job as Channel One's youngest globetrotting reporter. She put in 40-hour weeks at the satellite broadcast company's Hollywood studio while carrying a full load at USC. Ling's drive and appealingly high-energy personality took its inevitable toll on her personal life. Before she turned 25 she was appointed Channel One's senior war correspondent. The job kept her shuttling among a couple dozen troubled nations that most high school kids can't locate on a world map. Ling capitalized on these experiences to produce eight PBS documentaries, including several award-winners. In 1999 the young star caught the eye of Barbara Walters and was invited to become a host on The View. The show gave her a chance to expand her appeal beyond high school youth but its format seemed to cramp her journalistic style. From covering events of geopolitical significance, Ling was reduced to jockeying with three other hosts to contribute chitchat about the more mundane concerns of daytime TV. Some of her unexpended journalistic energies were expended on writing stories as a contributing editor for USA Weekend. Around that time Ling appeared in an Old Navy TV commercial which may have done more than any other single media event to bring her to the forefront of the Asian American consciousness. The commercial featured her cavorting about with five men. Her tagline: “I like my men strong and good-looking.” The problem -- in the minds of irate Asian Americans -- was that none was Asian. Ling became a lightning rod for the ire that, in fairness, might have been directed toward Old Navy, especially because its CEO happened to be a Chinese American woman. The other development that put Ling's name on Asian American lips was her romance with Corean American actor Rick Yune. They met at a People Magazine conference on teens in February 2001. A onetime Polo model and stock-trader, Yune had become an Asian heartthrob thanks to an intriguing performance in Snow Falling on Cedars (1999). His star soared in 2002 with the release of two big-budget features in which Yune played the main bad guy: The Fast and the Furious and Die Another Day. Ling and Yune were hailed as the Asian American glamour couple. Their Asian-on-Asian celebrity romance seemed to defy old patterns and was hailed as a milestone for the Asian Amerian image. The romance lasted two years, ending in the spring of 2003 at around the time Ling was named to host National Geographic Ultimate Explorer (Sundays at 8 p.m. ET/PT on MSNBC). The show debuted at the end of the summer with a segment in which Ling interviews Yao Ming, the newest and biggest Houston Rocket. Lisa Ling has just returned intact from being fired upon by the soldiers of druglords. She spoke to us from Sacramento where her father is recovering from a bypass operation. Used to being on the other end of the microphone, Ling is sensitive to the scope of each question, taking care not to stray off topic. She is also careful to inject appropriate pauses between words, phrases and sentences. As the conversation progresses she allows herself some liberties. Toward the end, her voice has taken on many of the qualities of an energetic teen that entered the Scratch audition. Lisa Ling is, in fact, a creature of enthusiasm -- animated by curiosity and the sheer kinetic energy of being alive. She is also a regular guy -- joking, intimating, conspiratorial, ingratiating. It's obvious that she enjoys the challenge of building rapport with new people. It's also obvious that, as she says, she is very sensitive to criticism, surprisingly so for someone who has been in the public eye for half her lifetime. 1. Where did your recent trip take you? I just came back from 3 weeks in Columbia, working on a story about the drug wars and the new president's efforts to combat drug trafficking. 1b. What is the typical lag between your travels and the air date? For example, I just got back from Columbia last week and this is going to air November 13, so just over a month. 1c. Where is your new job based? Based in Washington D.C.


So you've moved your residence to D.C.? Well, I don't really have a home. I'm kinda all over the place. I still have my apartment in New York, but I also have one in D.C. I'm just not there very often. I still consider my primary residence New York. I average 5 days a month in D.C. Are you in New York even that many days a month? No, I'm in New York fewer days, but I own that apartment and I still consider it home. 2. How has your daily routine and lifestyle changed since moving from The View to National Geographic Ultimate Explorer? Well, I don't have a 9-5 job. It's much more fluid in that regard. I do traveling in three-week intervals. Then I'll come back for a few days and I'll come to California to visit the family and head right back out. I'm going to Mexico tomorrow at 6 a.m. It's much more hectic we take it. Much more hectic. But I like that. It's not that routine 9-5 thing. When I was at The View I had to be back in New York every Sunday night because Monday morning we had a show. So you have less time for a personal life now? Much less, much much less. 2a. It is said that the process of landing the Yao Ming interview for Ultimate Explorer's debut segment took two years. How is that possible? When I first heard about Yao Ming, I got in touch with his agent and I said I don't care where I am but I want to interview Yao Ming. I don't know for what yet, but I just want it to be known that I'm really really wanting to interview this guy because I just had so much hope and enthusiasm for him. I just kept up a really good relationship with his people and as soon as I got the gig with National Geographic, I capitalized on that relationship. So The View might have capitalized on that if you had still been there? Yes, and they still might have him on the show. 3. What did you discover to be the most remarkable thing about Yao Ming? There's so many things. He's such a lovely guy. He is under more pressure than anyone I've ever known. He's got not only the pressure of being an NBA star but he's got the pressure of a billion people watching his every move and praying that he will do them right, if you know what I mean. He's a kid after all, he's only 22 years old, now 23. It's just a lot of pressure. A guy like that when you're 7-foot-6 you can't exactly take a week off and go to Hawaii without people knowing. Do you think he'll eventually lead the Rockets to a championship? I sure hope so. I think there are only positive things to come from Yao Ming. Certainly the Rockets are hoping that he will do so too but there's also a huge pressure. They just built this mult-million dollar stadium because they're hoping Yao will help fill the seats.


Do you think he may decide “to heck with this” and go back to China? I don't think he'll do that, but he did confess to me on tape that, “You know, I have to ask, do you sometimes regret coming?” and he said, “Sometimes.” He just feels like he has no time for himself. Really I've never known anyone who's under more pressure than Yao Ming. 4. Give us a picture of one of your new workdays. When I'm not on an airplane... For example, one of my days in Columbia. I was with the Columbia anti-narcotics forces. We were flying around in Blackhawk helicopters and having to jump out of helicopters and bust cocaine laboratories in the middle of some of the densest jungles on earth. The next day I had an interview with the president of Columbia. As I was waiting for the interview, his helicopter started getting fired on by the guerillas. So we were kinda dodging bullets. But even though we thought we lost that interview, later that evening we ended up getting four hours of him at his house in Medellin. That's a window into two of my days in Columbia. We'll have to see that one! It's airing November 16. 5. Share with us some highlights since taking on your new NGUE job. I've loved every single story that I've worked on whether it's the drug war story in Columbia or Yao Ming or women in Indian prisons or Mexican immigration. Every single story has been so intellectually stimulating for me so I can't exactly say I have a favorite. What I love the most about my job is that every assignment allows me to stretch my mind and learn more about a different culture or phenomenon. 6. Share some of the low points, downers. When I was in India for example, I developed these really close attachments to these Indian kids who grew up prison. In India women have the option of bringing their kids to prison, thus raising a generation of prison kids. Having to develop a relationship with them and having to say goodbye is an extremely difficult thing to do. Any negative aspects of your job that you find difficult? It's very hard to meet someone and to have a substantive relationship with someone because I'm literally in a new town every couple weeks. [laughs] But that's also the fun of it too. [interruption when Ling's cellphone battery runs out of power] Oh yes, we were talking about how lame my social life is! [laughing] But is that really true? Don't you get to meet a lot of people while you're traveling? I say it sort of in jest because on the one hand it would be impossible for me to have a boyfriend right now, but I'm totally fine with that because I have been meeting so many amazing people all over the world. Hopefully I'll have a substantive relationship at some point in my life but right now I'm just not quite ready to do that. 7. What are some passions that you hope to indulge now that you're hosting Ultimate Explorer? I love immersing myself in other cultures and just becoming a citizen of the world. My three different cities of residence have improved aesthetically because I've been known to be quite an incessant shopper. So I've picked up little things all over the world to decorate my various homes. That's the more fun thing that I can indulge in during my travels. What about on a professionial level? Is there a subject area that you really want to get into now at the Explorer? National Geographic is known for its spectacular wildlife and natural history pieces. I wanted to go to Geographic to work specifically on social issues, global current affairs type issues. I've already reported on Iraq, Columbia and China. I'm working on this big piece on Hispanic immigration for which I'm going to Mexico tomorrow. They're pretty meaty substantive issues. I've been offered jobs at the networks and nobody is willing to devote the kind of time that National Geographic is devoting to global issues. 9. Do you see yourself as more of a journalist with a personality or a personality with journalistic interests? What is closer to the reality of your daily routine? I think they both coincide. I'm very much a journalist and I still think I'm a bit of a personality. I think that's why people have responded really well to the work that I do. My hope is that the audience will trust me enough to allow me to take them along on this journey and I don't think I would be able to do that if I didn't establish a bit of a personality in the pop culture world. So you would say the journalistic part is more in keeping with the reality of your days? I think I have to do a bit of both. I'm very much a journalist in that many of the stories that I've done have been my ideas that I've helped to develop. It's certainly a collaborative process but I like being integral in all aspects of the production. But at the same time, because I've worked in the media so long, there is a responsbility on the other hand to uphold that personality or that kind of ... Entertainent value? ...Well, I certainly have to do publicity for our show and capitalize on the fact I've worked on a national entertainment show for three years. 10. How has NGUE evolved in concept or execution as you have become established in your hosting duties? I like to think that Ultimate Explorer combines the best aspects of reality TV with the best aspects of journalism. We cover an array of topics, ranging from social issues to wildlife but the one thing that ties the programming together is that it's told through a first-person approach. The old Explorer was more sort of conventional filmmaking. In Ultimate Explorer the correspondent is much more integrated into the programming. Because you're the host, do you pretty much have final say in how things are put together? Actually no. It's a very collaborative effort. What I love about the group I work with is that there are so many incredibly talented producers, writers and staff members on National Geographic. Certainly I bring something to it but I feel equally as honored to work with such phenomenally talented people. Are you bringing the angle to each story? That's a collaborative thing as well. Because I'm on camera, I'm sort of the mouthpiece for the piece. But in terms of the final outcome, the vision of it is certainly a collaborative effort. How many people travel with you on a typical excursion? From two other people to four. But you're the 700-pound gorilla. Oh yeah. The producer also shoots usually and we'll take an audio and a fixer possibly. [After answering another call] Sorry about that my father just underwent surgery so everyone's calling to find out how he's feeling. How is he? He's doing really well. What kind of surgey He had open-heart surgery, a bypass. It went shockingly well. How old is he? He's 66. But he looks 45. He has a very young spirit. I flew my aunt out to come to because I couldn't be here right away. She walked up to the third floor of the hospital where he was and as soon as she arrived on the floor he mooned her in front of all the nurses. That's the kind of personality he has. You must have gotten a little of that. Yeah, I would say. We have kind of a kooky family. 12. Tell us about your background -- parents, birthdate, birthplace. My father worked for McLellan Air Force Base for decades As? Civilian engineer. And my mom has been a jack of all trades. For a time she was working for the state government, but she moved on to become a paralegal, then started her own company. Now she does PR for a hospital. What kind of company did she start? Import/export company. So she's the entrepreneurial one. She definitely is. When were you born? 1973, August 30. You were born in Sacramento? Yes. 13. How did you get involved in a teen magazine show when you were 15? They were having auditions for it in a local mall. My speech teacher encouraged a couple of us to audition. I went and about 500 other kids auditioined as well and miraculously I was chosen as one of the 4. That's how my TV career began. I've been doing it ever since. I don't really think I know how to do anything else at this point. [laughs] To what do you attribute the fact that you were picked out of all those kids? I wish I knew. When I watch my tapes back I am confounded as to what they saw in me. But it's funny because I just had breakfast with the guy who gave me my first TV job with Scratch. He said, “When I saw you, I just knew.” Of course he has the benefit of hindsight. The people who did that show ended up doing fairly well, so he's someone I respect and it's really great to catch up with hm after all these years. You must have had some early interest in broadcast journalism to have been taking speech. I always knew I wanted to work in television in some capacity. Scratch was just the easiest way in. I was sort of raised by television. My parents got a divorce when I was seven, and TV was my babysitter for my whole life. Growing up I really identified with certain characters and people and I just wanted to be a part of that world. Three's Company was my favorite. And yes, I'm completely devastated by John Ritter['s death]. Any TV journalist you had your eyes on back in those days? I always had my eyes on my girl Connie Chung. Who didn't? Any aspiring young journalist revered her. One of the most gratifying and exciting moments for me was when I got my job at The View. I got a card completely unsolicited from Connie saying, “I just wanted to let you know that I've been reading about you and I'm really proud of you.” We've subsequently become friends. She tried to fix me up with all these guys. She's just the coolest. She was such a pioneer at the time. You hadn't met her before that? No, never. What impact did your parents' divorce have on your childhood? It was definitely traumatizing. I was seven years old and the only Asian kid in a completely white communjity. Already I was already a bit of an odd kid, different from all my friends. Then to not have one of my parents around compounded the problem. Are you an only child? No, I have a little sister. Did you both go to live with your mother? Actually we grew up with our dad. Isn't that a bit unusual? That is also kinda unusual. My mother was very much a part of our lives, but we grew up with our father. How did your father manage to get custody awarded? We had a choice. My mom was moving to Los Angeles and she asked which way we wanted to go. My grandmother was here with my father in Sacramento and I didn't want to go to another school. So we chose to stay in Sacramento rather than rough it in Los Angeles. So on so many differnt levels, I had a different upbringing. Part of the reason I guess I became such an ambitious kid was I fought hard to kind of escape my surroundings. Did having divorced parens have any other effect that you can recognize? I just become a much more independent person. The person with whom I settle down, I hope I'm with that one person and not two or three others. Did your mother remarry? No, neither of them remarried. What caused them to break apart? They shouldn't have been married in the first place. My mom came to this country in her early 20s. My father came over when he was 7. They kind of rushed into it. They had only gone out for 4 months before and they're both physically attractive people. They were just a little hasty and there was a lot of family pressure as well. 14. You've said that your parents would have preferred that you go into law or medicine or some other traditional career. How do they now feel about your career now? They're absolutely thrilled. They actually changed their minds when I started bringing home paychecks that were fairly decent. Better than lawyers' paychecks? Let's put it this way. I put myself through four years of USC which isn't cheap. From your work on Channel One? I come from my family that I wouldn't even say was middle class. We were probably lower-middle class. So for me to be able to do that was justification enough for them that [my career] would be okay. 15. You have been one of the most visible Asian American celebrities since your days at Channel One and The View. Do you ever feel burdened by that celebrity? Yeah, it is very burdensome to be honest with you. The thing that is most frustrating is, I feel like I do more for the community than most people in the business. I've spoken at numerous universities to Asian organizations and I've done a lot of work with Asian organizations as well. I've really really made an effort because it's important to me and it's disappointing when “the Community” feels the need to criticize and cast judgement on my every move. That's really disappointing. I take it you're referring to the Old Navy commercial? Not exclusively the Old Navy commercial. Even when I was on The View I considered myself to be one of the more vocal Asians, and I've brought Asian issues to the table on numerous occasions. But I can't do it every day. So the criticism was that you weren't dealing with Asian issues? Yeah, when I've brought it up more than anyone I've seen on television frankly. The View isn't exactly a show about heavy social issues. But I did still. Like when Time magazine put an Asian eye on the cover, I was very upset about that. I talked about growing up Asian, and so many different topics I brought up. But if you didn't see it, you would assume I had never addressed these issues but you can only bring it up sparingly. The fact of the matter is that it's a mainstream daytime talk show and you can only talk about the issues so often. So I get it from both sides. Members of the Asian community would always say you don't talk about it enough. Members of the non-Asian community say I wear my Asianness on my sleeve. I've really gotten to the point, to be honest with you, where I've got to live for me. 11. There have been rumors of friction between you and your co-hosts at The View. Did the friction play any part in your decision to move to NGUE? Not at all. I got along great with them. It's really funny because people love to make assertions and deduce various opinions but I honestly got along so well with every one of my colleagues. But the one host that everyone thought disliked me and whom I disliked, I got along best with. And that was Joy. And it's really really funny because I'd plop myself down on Joy's couch. Joy's had so many years of therapy, so I'd go in and she'd counsel me on all of my problems, whether it be with men or television issues. We would just laugh at the supposed friction. We just thought it was funny. It was a tough job because I worked with very vociferous women. Even though I'm a very talkative person, I'm not the kind of person who really presses. I draw the line at certain times and I'm not overly aggressive with my personality or opinion. So it was a difficult job on that front. We only had a few minutes to express our viewpoint but to say that we didn't get along was totally false. What were your parting words? How did you justify leaving? Everyone on The View always knew that at some I'm going to want to get back to doing journalism. Everyone knew it from day one. So when I found this dream job at Geographic, I told Barbara who at one time had told me, “Lisa, we'd love to keep you around here forever, but if you do ever find your dream job, tell me and I'll help you.” When I found my dream job she said, “Wow! You're actually taking me up on this.” It was actually very harmonious and it surprised me. Barbara is a fellow journalist. She always knew that I would kinda get... not bored, but just a little stagnant. Why was she doing that show? See, she was doing 20/20 at the same time. She only did The View like two days a week. Barbara would sometimes not even be on the show for a couple of weeks. One of the things mentioned on the show was Rick Yune. How did you meet? Rick and I met at a People magazine conference about minorities in the media. Why did you split up? It's one of the burning questions of our day. We had dated for two years. We had gotten to the point where we were making decisions about where to go next and what was going to happen with our careers. We sort of made a mutual decision that neither of us were ready to settle down and weren't ready to make compromises. My job has me traveling constantly. I'm in another country every month. His job as an actor... When he did [Die Another Day], that put such a strain on our relationship. He was in London for six month. I went out there like nine times. It's still extremely difficult. And doing the job I do now, there's no way I can go out there nine times. So who wrote the Dear John letter? It was completely mutual. We'd been talking about it for a long time. Any chance of you getting back together later? I don't know. I feel very fondly toward him honestly. Rick's my baby. What kind of relationshiip do you have with him now? We don't talk as much as we could because it's difficult. Like when we talk, we want to be with each other. But we do talk from time to time. How long were you together? It was two years. So it was over at the time you switched jobs? Yeah. Are you dating anyone else now? Not at all. Your Old Navy commercial was a source of some controversy due to your having been given the line “I like my men strong and good-looking” while being paired with four non-Asian men. What is your feeling on that controversy? Can I say that it was totally stupid? I was really hurt by that. I was so excited that Old navy wanted to hire me in the first place. To be honest, when we had the first meeting and they told me about it, I said, “There will be an Asian guy, right?” They said, “Yeah.” I show up. There is no Asian guy. But you know they're like, “I'm not the one who did the casting.” And just so you know, the president of Old Navy is and was a Chinese American woman. And the woman who hired me was a Corean American woman. I started getting all this heat, it was so ridiculous. That really just made me feel bad that Asian men feel so insecure about this. I was like, “Come on!” This really made companies like Old Navy rethink hiring an Asian as a lead in a commercial. If you were given the same opportunity would you do it again? Yes. Even if you knew it was four non-Asian men? It was good money. It was a fun commercial. I asked them if all ethnic backgrounds were going to be representeed. Would I do it if I knew there were going to be no Asian guy... What really hurt me was that I've been so conscientious about helping the Asian community and being present and so forth and when that happened it was, “My god all that for this?” We don't think you were the main focus. I got a lot of s*** for it. “Sellout...” My relationship with Rick was founded on [my] trying to “rehabilitate my image”? What did Rick think of it? Rick didn't even think anything of it. It bothered me but he was like, it's so stupid. Don't even bring it up to me. I don't even want to hear it. I'm not even going to give it the time of day.” My relationship with Rick wasn't even about him being Asian. He happened to be an amazing... It was so not about me wanting to date an Asian anybody. I date people I'm interested in. And that's another thing that's always weird, people casting judgment on who I date. Guess it comes with the territory. I unfortunately am very sensitive and I need to not pay so much weight to it. 19. What advice would you give Asian Americans seeking a career in TV journalism? If it's what you really want to do, while you're unmarried and don't have kids, go for it. It certainly is a struggle but my whole thing with the Asian community in general is, stop criticizing and do it. So much criticism of me because I did the commercial or certain actresses because they play these stereotypical roles. Well if it's ticking you off so much, then you write a script. You've had one of the smoothest eassiest and most successful carrers of anyone in TV journalism. Smoothest and easiest? You started at the age of 15. You moved onto a pretty good job at Channel One, then to national exposure on The View and now you're doing NGUE. It seems that you've always enjoyed smooth progress in your career. I've been lucky with the jobs I've gotten but I feel like I'm gonna have an anxiety attack every single day of my life because I work so hard and... What causes you anxiety? ...It is completely relentless. What could cause anxiety? from the second I wake up in the morning, I'm obligated to do this that and the other. I'm either writing or researching or making calls or I'm interviwiong or being interviwwed or I'm giving speeches. It is completely relentless. I'm pitching sow ideas, stories, I'm pitching myself. It is truly relentless. Would I have it any other way? No, becuase I'm completely a type a personality. If I even have one thing if I slow it down a notch I get bored. It's about persistence and more persistence. If you get a door slammed on your face, knocking down another one. You're thirty-four now right? No, thirty. How long can you keep this up? That's a question I've been contemplating a lotlately. I know that at some point I'm gonna want to have a family and settle down and I physically won't be ale to maintain this kind of schedule. I'm on a plane halfof my life. I have an apartement in DC and I average three to five days in it a month because I'm constantly on the road. So I don;t know probably another couple of years and then I'll reassess. You mean like two years. I'm always writging and pitching other shows that I'm not even hosting, as a producer. So after two years you're thinking about goign on the other side of the camera. I really and try and make a diligent effor to live my life day to day and not look too far into the future. However, having said that, I always like to have a couple of irons in the fire. wopuld that coincide with having a relationshi0pa dn a family? If anyone will have me. I'm sure you'll have a lot of peoole lining up. I don't know about that. So in the net three to five years you see a behind the desk job, family, kids I definitely want to have at least one kid. But I also am determined to adopt at least one kid. Where would you want to adopt a kid from? There's so many kids that need to be saved. It really doesn't matter. In all likelihood a child from Asia but I don';t discriminate when it comes to children that need to be saved. Is there anyone whose career you adire? Oprah. That's the direction you might like to go? What I love about Oprah is that she uses her talent for good. There's so few people in this business who do that and I just have so much admiration for her. You've revealed an aspect of you that no one suspects. It's hard because when I was working on the view I cvould only allow one side of me to emerge. and it was really difficult. I take everything I do very very seriously. sometimes to my disservioce because I cre a little too much. And one of the reasons why when I found out you guys wanted to do an interview I told alanna I have to talk to these guys because it's importanyt. the overwhelming majority of letters adn emails I get are from Asians. Sometimes I think why am I doing this just to get myself criticized. On the other hand, the overwhelming majority is very supportive. We have a very old profile of you. Oh my god, I was sixteen years old, I was eighteen. To this day it's one of the most popular features. Can you change that picture. I was like nineteen. Have you seen the funny one with Yao Ming? It is hysterical. How tall are you? I'm 5-6. He's 7-6. I took him out a coupole of times. He never ever ever goes out. I forced him. Yao Ming you cannot continue hiding. you must go out. who cares? fuck let's go out. I took him out and it was unbelievable. I took him to a little trendy cafe in LA. I've been out with like Britney Spears and no one has gotten the attention Yao Ming got. As soon as we walked in the entire restaurant simultaneously ceased all conversation. And they all at the same time looked up. And they started breaking out Yo, Yao, Yo Yao. It was so unbelievable. Myabe we can't imageine. He's so lovely. Imagine he's one of the tallest men on the planet. always been attracted always to Asian men. In a perfect world I will marry and have a billion babies with Asian men but Asian men have never asked me out. That is an issue. I asked Rick out. Tht's my thing, if there's any Asian man in general I've wanted to go out with, I ask himm out. My daughter, intimidating to a lot of guys I wish that they knew that that is part of the reason. Step up to the plate. The way Asian males are socialized. Other males are taught to take a chance. Instead of realizin that that might be an issue, it's like oh, she only dates white guys. There's this sort of closet underground criticism that happens. Take a second to review why this may be. Our site does make an issue out of that. A lot of younger males ralize it's not a one-way street. Please alert as many men as possible I went out with a great Korean guy the other day who actually called me.