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ka,

fact is that the East has better chances to revive spirituality than the West for several reasons.Further,my opinion is the East could take the chance to balance Western materialism. By the way, in fact I was regarded as a fascist by some people in the past,I think I'm actually not. In fascism the state tells the people what to do in cases of problems. If I had a problem within my family I would like to solve it on my own.
rare stuff Friday, April 26, 2002 at 16:28:49 (PDT)

white girl,

straight to the point: if you are rich you will be able to influence the ethics of your environment.The problem I'm referring to is that values like homosexuality, anti-male feminism and lesbianism among others spread continually from the West to the East.I n the times of Western patriarchy this was not yet the case.
rare stuff Friday, April 26, 2002 at 16:13:40 (PDT)

AC, I'll keep it 'shorter' this time, because I just wrote something long, and accidentally deleted it.

How is it that you can't see that mail-order-brides is related to the economic development of a nation, and moreover, that it is essentially problematic? I must say that you are far more right-winged considering, that you fail to recognize exploitations that occur from these arrangements. Namely the men who "buys" women, have certain expectations from their "commodity"--that they be subservient, demure, and accomodating. How can you say this is a "non-issue" when it is very much of a gender discrimination issue?

AC, I don't think you really understand how Fortune magazine evaluates the "richest" man criteria. Real Esate is also factored in to calculating for wealth--as well as oil. And for your information, the "western world" as you put it were very paranoid during the 1980's that Japan was becoming the #1 country. I agree that a Saudi prince is essentially "richer" then Bill Gates, if we were to consider that the Saudi Prince can kill people whom he dislikes. (i.e. political dissidents.) But I think this is a bogus argument on your part, because no matter how you look at it, people with money, are less likely to put themselves in a compromising situation. It doesnt' take a genius to figure out that women with money are more powerful then women without money. And therefore, women with money, tends to be more "free".

I don't understand your argument, because whereas you bring up the argument that some fiscal statistics is probablematic, your argument is essentially philosophical--religious even, in nature. I mean, what do you mean by "free" and "rich"? Are you about to tell me that all this is "relative" and therefore my cut and dry black and white view of the world is meaningless since everything is in grey and is undefinable and therefore, I can never know reality? Ok, I'm putting words in your mouth here, but please define what YOU mean by "free" and "rich" as you seem to know what I mean by it.

AC, everyone, EVERYONE must take a moral stand, and not be afraid to bump into heads for the sake of avoiding "ethnocentrism."
ka Friday, April 26, 2002 at 12:48:14 (PDT)

Let take this argument point by point.

Concubines/extra-marital affairs. I did state that this occurance is independent of monetary economy and is dependent of males who wish to illustrate they have abundant resources to support a second mate. I'm assuming you wanted to discuss how monetary level could override morality of monogomous marriages.
Mail order brides are in a whole other category. These are women in poorer coutries willing to go through arranged marriages with foriegners. There is no moral issue here because they are pursuing monogamous relationships within the frame work of their cultures arranged marriages.

I see you haven't been to Toyko Hostess bars or Saudi Arabia. There you will see plenty of Good Ol' USA of blonde women as concubines/extra-marital affairs. The Saudi are the only people I know off who can keep Ex-Miss America as concubines.

Your argument is losing cohesiveness at this point.

Economic and civil liberties. You are correct in stating with a strong economy a nation can afford to implement social changes in a peaceful manner. But whether or not a society chooses to change to your concept of the moral norm is a whole other matter.

Income disparity is an innate nature of non-communist society. The social experiement call communism fail because people are innately greedy, and they did not take this into account when creating a communist society. We value intelligence, beauty, athleticism, etc. Thus people feel they need to be compensated as such. So Major League Baseball player will never accept Minor League pay, is a common example of this social feature.

Depends on how you define "rich." For example if you take our USA Fiancial Statement as definition. It would be Bill Gates, based on the paper assets in Microsoft. However, if you based it real estate assest and commodities, it would be a Saudi Prince or someone in the U.A.E. or even Iraq. It could boil down to can the western world swallow the fact that the richest person in the world is not a white geek with a bad hair cut, but a royal arab geek with a bad stutter.

This is a loaded question for nations because the IMF determines the "richness" of countries as qualification for loans. So there is some subjectiveness in "richness" of a country. Which is totally independent of how "free" the country is by our definitions.

I don't know what are all the social factors in S.Korea causing sex disparity. In China it is one child law enforced in the cities. People in country are not enforced as strict. And rich people in the China can afford the heavy taxes on the 2nd child.

There is nothing wrong with being moral. But there will be issues if you belive in absolute morals in a global context. Because the are many different moral compasses on this planet then the one you possess.

You will have to ask some who has lived in India and S. Korea to make a comment. I haven't been to either of those two countries.
AC Dropout Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 12:54:30 (PDT)

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