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ASIANS IN AMERICAN SPORTS
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"So don't use income as an excuse for China."

China, despite the hoo hah that it is the fastest growing economy in the world, is relatively still a poor nation. Most of its people live in the rural regions, where even finding a basic soccer field is a rarity. Korea was once a poor country with an income per capita as low as any African country. Have we heard of Koreans dominating sports back then? NOP, Korea were too poor to have its name in sports. It was only in the later decades when a wealthier South Korea became an Asian sports superpower. Same with China today. I don’t see China today as “already” successful at sports coz to me, China is still picking up. As China prospers,there are chances that it might have a higher medal per capita count.You might be saying that I’m making up excuses again, but really, funding is indeed the most important factor to create good athletes. No money? Sports just have to take backseat. Do you really think people from poorer countries like Zambia or Bangladesh suck in sports becoz they are physically inferior to others? They are poor at sports coz either becoz there is lack of funding/income or sports isn’t a priority in their lives. It is too simplistic to brush aside he issue of "income" as it IS among the major factor.
Morever, if the chinese were to become richer, they would have no problem funding themselves as extra money can be channelled to develop themselves to become good athletes. But for now, government funding is probably the main or only source of support for an average chinese to realize his/her dream of becoming a national athlete as most chinese hardly could afford to even pay for his education.

"Chinese athletes that compete in sports like gymnastics and diving are funded by the Chinese gov't. Do you think there are alot of Coreans wanting to excel in these sports when it requires alot of money for private coaches?? Not!"

Hello? doesn't soccer require a lot of money either? Millions have to be paid to the coach and the players.So r u saying sports like soccer and baseball aren't expensive at all?
Orange Tuesday, September 17, 2002 at 00:18:48 (PDT) [210.187.156.176]

To What is Corea?
Decided not to answer any of my questions? TSK, TSK..as you said you don't know jack shit about international or any sports really from you pathetic responses and lame excuses.
Where are all your Chinese major leaguers?
Hummm... this is what I don't get, a Chinese Canadian boy trashing a former NHL player of Corean descent. Why? I could undertand if the Chinese had a player at this level but NEVER! Its like a virgin trying to explain to us about sex. Then this sneak goes off on another theory trying to dodge all my questions. Hey sneak, I got news for
you no matter how you want to cut it Coreans outperform you guys.
You can trash Jim Pak or Steve Park
when you have a Chinese representative in the NHL. OK? Don't hold your breath. That goes for when you ever get a Chinese in the NFL, ok?
Counter puncher Monday, September 16, 2002 at 22:52:32 (PDT) [152.163.188.38]

Counter Puncher,

I wasn't implying that japan is the greatest.What I was trying to say is Japan is more of an all rounder. Japan particpates and performs considerably well in a much wider variety of sports events compared to many asian countries,including korea.Korea might be a superpower of soccer, judo and taekwondo, but hey, japan isn't much far behind. In addtion to that,japan ISN'T JUST SOCCER,JUDO AND TAEKWONDO. japanese can say that they perform well at a whole lot of other sports (compared to other asian counterparts)like swimming,rugby,triathlon,marathon, athletics,surfing,motor racing,sailing,tennis, volleyball, baseball,etc. Japan might not have a medal per capita as high than korea's, but who cares? We try a lot of other sports and we are not bad at all.
Coco Monday, September 16, 2002 at 22:09:44 (PDT) [210.187.156.91]

Counter Puncher, I don't know much about international sports and I'm not going to waste any time doing research on things unless I HAVE to. I'm interested in hockey, baseball, and basketball, and from what I've seen in those sports I don't see the Korean athletes being as good as you Koreans claim them to be. Especially about how you guys are good at baseball, that's totally ridiculous.
I am happy that Ming is drafted by the Rockets and that he created so much attention about Asian (especially Chinese) athletes, but I'm not gonna talk about how good I think he will do or anything untill I see him play in a regular season game.

I think being funded means getting money, in Canada, the amateur athletes don't get a cent by the government for playing or training, but they still perform well because they have training facilities such as hockey arenas, baseball fields/diamonds, soccer fields, etc. In China the government gives the athletes money and cars and tries to give them a place to train, but there are still very little training facilities. Have you ever been to China? I have and I've noticed very little baksetball courts, baseball fields, soccer fields and other things that Americans and Canadians have public access to. Every Chinese person (that grew up in China) I've known told me that the only place they could play basketball is in the school, which is an example of how there is a lack of training facilities. I'm not saying Korea is or is not like China in the area of training facilities since I've never been to Korea.

Just because Jim Pak has his name on the Stanley Cup doesn't mean he's good, like I said before, Pak would not have his name on the Cup if it wasn't for the amazing performances of Mario Lemieux. There are many people with their names on the Stanley Cup, but that does not mean that they're all good players, look at the coaches for example, Scottie Bowman has his name on the Cup for ten times? and I know he was a horrible player, and there are many that were on the Cup winning team but didn't have any ice time. Pak was never a regular and never played a full season in the league, go brag about having an Korean in the NHL once they remain in the lineup for a full season.

You're basically saying Koreans are better than Chinese athletes because they have a few non-recognizable people that made it to profesional sports in North America, which isn't much proof of who are the better athletes. Maybe if you have more than one person that actually performs well (other than just making it) in North America I'll respect the trash that you're saying about Koreans.
What is Corea? Monday, September 16, 2002 at 11:36:59 (PDT) [216.221.44.23]

Poor Mouse,

Not to disagree. But the USA olympic training center is a privately funded institution. People in the USA need to pay for it out of there own pocket to stay and train there.

Some of those other Asian countries the training is govern't funded and medals are rewarded with cash.

Here in the USA if you participate in a non-popular sport ie. Tae Kwon Do or Judo. The chances of finding a corporate sponsor at some point in your athletic career is close to nil.
AC dropout Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 21:47:16 (PDT) [209.122.237.54]

Most of the posters here just missed the point. Most of you guys go off on different irrelavent tangents. Coming up with excuse after excuse is a sure sign that you guys have nothing to back up your claims. An average Chinese in China might be poor but China itself isn't dirt poor like African countries or India. China spends disproportionate amount of her income on sports facilities and defense, much more so than democratic countries.
Tell me,do you think if China was a free nation and the her government didn't fund its athletes, she will win more medals in international competition than today? I don't think so! Just look at the former USSR. Their medal count has gone down significantly.People of these countries like Russia now worry about their next meal rather than medals. Chinese athletes that compete in sports like gymnastics and diving are funded by the Chinese gov't. Do you think there are alot of Coreans wanting to excel in these sports when it requires alot of money for private coaches?? Not! That's why Corea doesn't do well in these sports because we have a small athletic pool to choose from.
Why do Corea excel in soccer and baeball? Simply because these sports are very popular in Corea and the facilities are available throughout Corea. Any average child can participate. So don't use income as an excuse for China.

Coco
You know why Japan can't say they are the best in Asia? Because you're not!
Japan has almost three times more people but still comes up behind Corea in the Olympics both in total count and per capita count. Did I phrase that simple enough for you to understand??
But Japan also does better than China in per capita medal count.
Counter Puncher Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 17:12:01 (PDT) [64.12.96.12]

If there's any question about who's pulling the LA Dodgers this season, the answers are very clear: Eric Gagne, Shawn Green and Hideo Nomo. When Nomo get's the start, he brings his mind and pitching arm to the game with him. When Gagne get's a lead, he will get a save.

Hideo Nomo has single handedly kept this team from being eliminated sooner rather than later. The Dodgers will fold this season, but Nomo has kept the midnight oil burning.

As much as I love Chan Ho Park, he would not have been nearly as productive as Nomo has been all this season. It was a brilliant move to bring Hideo back to LA this season. He has been one of a few bright spots on a generally worthless roster.

My hat off to Mr. Hideo Nomo. A man's man.
Geoff DB GeoffDB02@aol.com Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 16:56:10 (PDT) [172.191.251.134]

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