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CHINESE FEMALE/ VIETNAMESE MALE RELATIONSHIPS
(Updated Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008, 05:24:04 PM to reflect the 100 most recent valid responses.)

Assuming you are a female of Chinese ancestry, which of the following most attracts you to males of Vietnamese ancestry?
Their facial features | 53%
Their physique | 4%
Their attitude and personality | 23%
Their education and cultural values | 20%

Assuming you are a female of Chinese ancestry, which of the following most dissuades you from relations with males of Vietnamese ancestry?
I don't find them physically attractive. | 3%
I don't find their personalities and attitudes appealing. | 11%
I don't think they would find me attractive. | 60%
I'd rather not deal with the disapproval of family. | 26%
Assuming you are a male of Vietnamese ancestry, which of the following most attracts you to females of Chinese ancestry?
Their facial features | 70%
Their physique | 12%
Their attitude and personality | 12%
Their education & cultural values | 6%

Assuming you are a male of Vietnamese ancestry, which of the following most dissuades you from relations with females of Chinese ancestry?
I don't find them physically attractive. | 1%
I don't find their personalities and attitudes appealing. | 15%
I don't think they would find me attractive. | 68%
I'd rather not deal with the disapproval of family and friends. | 16%


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My understanding Kinh people are Vietnamese. According to my Birth Certificate in Vietnam, my nationality is recorded as Kinh (Vietnamese spelling) to distinguish Vietnamese and mountain ethnic people. For example, Vietnamese call Thuong people.

Thuong are the people who live in Central Highlands or Muong (Hmuong in English), Ma’n, Ta`y, Nu`ng living on muontains of northern Vietnam and border of China.

Kinh is Vietnamese term to indicate people who are sharing the same Vietnamese language, culture, living in flat land and along the coast not on the mountains.

Hoa is Vietnamese term to call ethnic Chinese living in Vietnam. or we call Viet go^’c Hoa.

Meanwhile, Chinese term to call Vietnamese is Yueh (Chinese spelling). I think Yueh and Kinh are the same meaning: Vietnamese people.

Vietnamese guys,

Please ask your older generations to find out. Chinese people will not understand when we use the term Kinh.

Anyway, I respect all you guys, Chinese, Vietnamese have done a lot of research on the Vietnamese people though.

A Viet    Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 09:07:53 (PDT)
dodi,

In 1947 there were recognized 54 ethnic groups in China.

In 1977 the 55th groups was added.

So including the Han population there are offically 56 groups in China.

In 1990 it was determined that 91.96% of the population was Han. And 8.06% were the rest of the minority groups.

I think anthropologist are just adding more as they document more stuff using western methodology.

If you think about it based on the definitions of the ethnic groups in China, people can move from one ethnic group to another over generations. So even if couple snuck across the Viet/China Border after 1974 settle Shanghai. They will be consider Han in a few generation.

Hell even those Jews that settle in Shanghai during WWII will be consider Han in a few generation.

Han culture is strange that way. Even though USA proclaims to be the melting pot. It only been around 300 years. And it still cannot resolve its black and white issues. But time will tell.

But time and time again in 5000 year of recorded Chinese history. Han will suck up their conquerer and conquerees. Make dark hair, dark eyed children with the foreigners and in a couple hundred years make Hans out of them.
AC Dropout    Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 15:57:17 (PDT)
Some of you guys are too caught with genetic studies.

OK, the genetic studies indicate that southern Han people are genetically forming one cluster with the southeast Asians (Viets, Filipinos, Malays, Thais, etc.).

Granted that some type of intermixture took place, but that doesn't mean that no Han came from the northwest.

The first great migration took place after the fall of the Han dynastic order, especially in northwest China (Gansu, Shaanxi, Shanxi and Henan). Great clans fled south, when the Turkic nomads carved out kingdoms in Chungyuan (our term for classical northwest China). My family name Wong (Huang) was one of those great clans. Some of them settled in central China (Hubei, Sichuan, Hunan, Jiangxi). But, some also eventually found there way further south (Guangdong, Guangxi, Fujian).

It is proven in family surname genealogical books. In our family village in Toisan (Taishan). I have known this Chinese American guy, he went back to trace his family genealogy in Toisan. He traced it to some general of the early Song Dynasty in Henan.

Even Dr. Sun Yat-sen, who also hails from Guangdong traced his ancestry to also another Song general from Shanxi.

There are many rivers that connect northwestern China all the way down to the southeast. Many migrants had taken those paths south.

There, they did intermix with natives. Often, Han men with Yueh women. Of course, in order to survive tropical conditions, it is best to receive the dominant genes needed to survive there. So, that is why southern (Yueh) genes are more dominant among southern Han people to this day. But, many studies indicate that it is very heterogenous genetically in the south.

Don't forget that the Mongols and Manchus contributed to the genetic development of northeast China as well. They may have altered the original genes of the northern Han people.

But, it is not genes that define the Chinese people and nation. It is the history and culture.
Chinese identity    Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 10:49:37 (PDT)

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