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CHINESE FEMALE/ VIETNAMESE MALE RELATIONSHIPS
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El,
In fact, the human genome studies and other relevant genetic studies in China tell us a far clearer picture, the genetic relations between southern Han and northern Han. There are overlaps. Many Chinese in the central provinces (Henan, Ningxia, Hubei) actually cluster with both northern and southern Han. Some relative pure Han groups such as the Hui (native Muslims) show few genetic signs of mixing with Mongols or Manchus as other northern Han have. Thus, in one study, a group of Ningxia Hui (located in northwest China) actually cluster more with the Cantonese, Fujianese, Hunanese than they do with Beijingers, Manchus and other northerners. One group of Han in Henan province also clustered more with southerners than they did with northeasterners. So, the reality is far from clear.
I question the motives of many of the Western geneticists. They clearly want to divide the Chinese Han people and make one feel different from the other.
All Han (whether north or south) have some interconnections way in the past.
There is a Chinese strain of Thalassemia (popular among Cantonese) that is now even found all the way in Turkey.
"Identification of the Chinese IVS-II-654 (C-->T) beta-thalassemia mutation in an immigrant Turkish family: recurrence or migration?
Tadmouri GO, Bilenoglu O, Kutlar F, Markowitz RB, Kutlar A, Basak AN.
Department of Molecular Biology and Genetics, Bogazici University, Bebek, Istanbul, Turkey.
In this study we describe the Chinese IVS-II-654 (C-->T) beta-thalassemia mutation for the first time in an immigrant Turkish family living in Istanbul and originating from Xanthe, Greece. Four members of the family, representing 3 generations, are heterozygous for this mutation. A detailed family history demonstrated a Greek origin for members of 5 generations with no records of migration or consanguineous marriages. Analysis of polymorphic nucleotides located at the 5' end of the beta-globin chromosomes bearing the IVS-II-654 mutation in the family described carried the (AT)9(T)5 type of microsatellite sequence and the ACATCCCCA haplotype. These 2 haplotype components favor a non-Eastern Asian origin for this chromosome, hence suggesting an independent origin for the IVS-II-654 mutation described in this family."
WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS IS A RESULT OF THE ANCIENT TURKS AND HAN PEOPLE SHARING MANY SIMILAR GENES AND INTERMIXING. Some Turkic rebels joined the Chinese race and some Chinese rebels joined the Turkish race. There was no real Great Wall of China back then. The Turks were the only foreign rulers to have succeeded in assimilating into the Han ethnos, more so than the later Mongols and Manchus. The founders of the Sui and Tang Dynasty had Turkic blood on their maternal side for generations.
A similar strain of Thalassemia found in Canton all the way to Turkey. Again this proves that Cantonese do have connections to "Chungyuan" (classical "northwest China"). And, through the northwest Han Chinese, there is the Turkic-Persian connections too.
dunhuang   
Sunday, April 28, 2002 at 02:35:48 (PDT)
I believe and to my understanding that the Viet are the Yueh. Yueh is a Chinese term calling the Viet people who they have gone to war with. It is like the Vietnamese calling the Chinese
UF viet guy   
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 19:53:32 (PDT)
Ok in theory if the Yueh are the vietnamese then there should be a solution to why there are language similarities with the people of Guangdong. The thing is that the vietnamese once controlled the region where guangdong is. The vietnamese were beaten down once more and moved south, BUT there were those that decided not to move. They stayed, this could be the reason for the similarities in Cantonese and Vietnamese.
444   
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 00:11:48 (PDT)
Vietnam has 54 ethnic groups. Kinh, i'm pretty sure is an ethnic group of it's own. To better describe the Kinh they say that the Kinh are the shore dwellers (not mountain), but it is in it's own essense an ethnic.
http://www.vietnamtourism.com/e_pages/vietnam/introduction/people_customer/fr_national.htm
FYI   
Friday, April 26, 2002 at 22:03:12 (PDT)
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