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let's cut the nonsense
just a quick note:
being a taiwanese-chinese, i am ashamed to admit that the taiwanese are actually quite 'sensitive' to waishengren (non-taiwanese chinese)
i think this is due to several reasons:
1. Increased Competition
2. KMT Massacare of Taiwanese when they came to Taiwan and most waishengren are related or decendents of the soldiers
3. Taiwanese Superiority
4. Chinese Superiority
5. Political tool (the current ruling party in taiwan is using it very well to divide the people in taiwan)
6. Fear of China being too powerful (i think some people think, and i agree, that if china becomes too powerful, they dont need to take taiwan back by force, the usa will just hand us over because of the new chinese econmic prowess) Many of us have mixed feelings as to whether we want china to become strong, afterall they are our brothers and it would be great to see china becoming the strongest nation again, elevating the status of asians everywhere, however, we do fear that the stronger china becomes, the smaller the importance of taiwan will be and slowly but surely, we'll have to reunite, whether we like it or not.
I have taiwanese-born parents but my mum is waisengren- meaning having non- taiwanese roots (hubei- mum's dad and shanghai- mum's mum) and i'm extremely pround of my chinese-chinese blood, i consider taiwanese chinese as well but i'll use taiwnaese-chinese to aviod confusion. My parnets would use the terms waishengren and benshengren alot and i think my dad is pround to be a benshengren (taiwanese ancestors for 17 generations or something) and my mum a waishengren, although i know some benshiengrens are quite mean to waishengren in taiwan, oh well, aren't we all chinese, after all, i mean the taiwanese dialect is basically hokkien and i dont think 17 generations would make that much difference, we all still have han chinese blood in us.
if anything, the real taiwanese are the indigenous malay people
sorry for the long post
the Duke of Edinburgh   
Friday, May 24, 2002 at 04:39:02 (PDT)
I know this does not belong here but i have to say that i, as a southern chinese, have never felt inferior to northern chinese, i did even know there were terms to decribe these people until several monthes ago- nanfangren (southern chinese) and beifangren (northern chinese) and even then i did not think much of it until my dad said to his northern chinese friend that he's so tall because he's n.chinese. i though about it since and did notice that n.chinese people seem too be taller in general. my mum said that it is to do with the northerners having noodles and other flour-based foods in their diets whereas southerners usually have rice. But i think the gap is narrowing now since china's getting wealthier and people generally having more choices and thus, access to all kinds of food. thats haat i think anyway.
the Duke of Edinburgh   
Friday, May 24, 2002 at 04:14:10 (PDT)
Eliza,
You state that southern chinese, particularly cantonese and hong kongers, around you drool at korean and japanese culture.
This is quite an interesting observation you make. Indeed, with the instances that you've encountered this may well be true.
But this may because you encounter the likes of such because you attract them in some way, or notice this apparent phenomenon because you are looking for it. Forgive me for my bluntness, but this may result from your own low esteem. "Feathers of the same flock," as the saying goes comes to mind, as does the phrase "dogs of the same breed."
I myself am partly cantonese, and partly northern tianjianese. I am passionately proud of my cantonese heritage. I am proud that Bruce Lee, who so loudly proclaimed his roots, is of southern Chinese extraction and that Dr. Sun Yat-sen, the revoluntionary nationalist, was Cantonese. At the mentioning of Sun Yat-sen, let me state that some of the greatest leaders of modern Chinese history were Cantonese.
I am also proud of my other half--my northern heritage. I am also proud of my godmother's manchurian heritage. But distinctions aside, I am ultimately proud of being Chinese--this fiercely being the fact.
My feelings are not reserved to me. I, as well as my Cantonese and Hong Konger friends feel the same way. In fact, our pride runs deep and wide. Befittingly so that the founder of a China free of Western and Japanese aggression is Cantonese--Dr. Sun Yat-sen.
Examining Hong Kong popular culture can be indicative of this as well. Many movies demonize Japan as the evil empire. Often times, criminals in Hong Kong movies are Japanese. This runs counter to your perception. While counterexamples exist, the point I make is that there is an immense pride among Cantonese and Hong Kong people.
Having said this allow me to note that I have encountered many Koreans who admire the Japanese, and feel "inferior" as you put it. I have also met Japanese who admire the Chinese, particularly China's rich history and contributions to world, and in particular Japanese, civilization. In fact, generally speaking, there is very much a belief, even fear among the Japanese, that China will once again regain its former imperial glory. I know this true of Koreans as well. Some Koreans have also stated how sad, and even ashamed, they are of their history. Over light drink, several stated that Korea has been a warring ground for other powers to fight over.
The examples I speak of are those who live and operate in the academic, political, and economic spheres. Many are foreign who come to this country to further their goals in their own respective countries. And very arguably what better representation than these policy-making movers and shakers.
I write this not to be disparaging or insulting. Rather, I ask you to inquire more into why your general perception is so. The answer may very well deal with yourself.
Hong Kong   
Thursday, May 23, 2002 at 17:39:10 (PDT)
Gordon
Chinese/Japanese couple in Asia very rare. very few
on the contrary Japanese/Korean couple exist much much more than Chinese/Japanese ,you'll see if you visit here Asia.
know the reali-don't bullshit.   
Thursday, May 23, 2002 at 11:35:03 (PDT)
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