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CHINESE MALE/ VIETNAMESE FEMALE RELATIONSHIPS
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To, just pointing out the facts;
"The use of the word brown refers to the Filipino or Thai women who constitute a majority of military prostitutes in Okinawa, Vietnam, and the Philippines."
From: http://www.wm.edu/SO/monitor/spring2000/paper6.htm
That's an educational page, and it agrees with everyone anyone said here about prostitution in vietnam. The majority of the prostitutes during the war were thai! In vietnam it was hard to find prostitutes due to the marriage rates due to the equal number of men and women. It was like 51% men and 49% women at that time. In thailand the ratio between women and men were different. Women were numerous and expendable in their views due to the excess of number.
NO one was twisting things around as you say.
"But wait, as you claim that all the prostitutes are from Thailand or other countries, so can you please explain this? If what you say is true, then most of the attractive people in your country is actually mixed Thai or Chinese and not vietnamese."
YOU know that doesn't make ANY sense at all. Just because your good looking you have to be children to prostitutes? LOL! Actually most of Vietnam's models are from the north and central. WITH NO thai influence at all. FUNNY that you even said it.
"Or would you like to take back your prostitution statement and keep your atttractiveness statement?"
YOU HAVE NO LOGIC. They're not even related AT ALL. Just because there were thai prostitutes which was true, doesn't mean the models are daughters to prostitutes. As a fact most of the thai prostitutes were brought back to thailand, and the sex trade there flourished! Plus prostitutes have NO MORAL they kill their babies while still in the womb just so they can continue 'working'. Prostitutes usually don't give birth, because they kill them all the time. STOP BSing as you would say.
"And let me get this straight, almost everyone in vietnam are mixed with French, that's why viet girls are more attractive than other asian girls. Now I know the French who station in Vietnam do not marry the locals(whom they consider low class), so where would all these mix children come from?"
There actually was no mixing at all between viets and french at that time. Vietnamese models are lighter because they come from the north and central. People from the north and central are light because they have common ancestry with the muong (light skinned people who live up in the mountains, they share a very similar language), who through DNA tests have little to no similarities with the chinese. Vietnamese people aren't beautiful because we have french blood, we're beautiful because we're like anyone else, we have beautiful people also.
PLUS i don't recall anyone saying that the vietnamese are almost all french. If they did it's a LIE, a LIE i tell you. But the thai prostitution statement is true, most of vietnam's prostitutes were thai. The military bases alone left 500,000 thai prostitutes behind. JUST the military bases. IT'S there read it.
"Vietnam War Legacy Although Thai women outnumber Thai men in Bangkok
by 400,000, among tourists men outnumber women three to one."
That validates my statement on the ratio of thai women to men.
"By the time the Americans were defeated (leaving
nearly half a million prostitutes in Saigon), too many Thai
businesspeople were making too much money to allow the sex trade to
die."
That validates the number of thai prostitutes. It is estimates that there was about 350k thai prostitutes, and the largest minority would be filipino (close to 100k, and the rest would be chinese, vietnamese, cambodian etc...).
The thai businesspeople who controlled these girls went back to thailand to continue the trade. As the prositutes belonged to brothels, not street whores, because of the contract the US got with the thais (for their soldiers to have 'fun' because the average age of american soldiers was 19 and at that age HORMONES jump in A LOT). The quote says they left behind prostitutes, that means that to an extent the prostitutes kind of belonged to them, hence meaning it came from the contract. Thus thai women.
The site is: http://eserver.org/feminism/prostitution.txt
By the way, get facts before you BS!
People who said that most of the whores at that time were thai weren't lying. And today prostitution is at a huge gov't killing operation where they basically throw them into jail (they call it rehabilitation, YEAH RIGHT, it's more like torture). A while back like in 1998 there was no operation but only policemen walking around and catching who they can (which left a few behind), today very little due to the operation. So no one was lying.
Actually the pink hue is very common but not all have it. And the MAJORITY of viets are light, the viets in vietnam anyways. It used to be that the north and center area was light skinned, but immigrations from the north down made southerners light too.
Hafti
Monday, August 05, 2002 at 21:30:59 (PDT)
To, just pointing out the facts;
Maybe you should have signed it, "just gonna lie"! Because obviously you didn't do any research AT ALL.
In vietnam during the war times the majority of the prostitutes WERE THAI. The numbers of thais weren't deviated in anyway as there was a contract between the USA and thailand on the matter. At the end there were close to half a million thai prostitutes in Saigon alone.
ONCE AGAIN, the only person B.S.ing in here is YOU.
FYI. very little mixing was done with the french, and there were basically no indians and arabs in vietnam EVER at anytime. Do research before you speak PLEASE.
"Man vietnamese women must have been really unlovable, or maybe they were prostitutes and the children were the result of their job."
Like i said, you lack A LOT of knowledge. READ A BOOK.
LJLK
Monday, August 05, 2002 at 20:48:27 (PDT)
To, just pointing out the facts;
YOUR FACTS ARE SO OFF! HAHAHA.
For one, MOST of the vietnamese aren't mixed with the french at all. Who ever told you that must have been a french wannabe.
Second during the vietnam war more then 300k thai prostitutes were brought into vietnam to pleasure the american soldiers during R & R. IT'S A FACT, look it up for yourself.
No doubt there were some prostitutes, but unlike other societies men who sleep with prostitutes are tied up and thrown into the river TOO. UNLIKE other nations where only the prostitutes gets prosecuted (at those times). Thus the lack of drive to do things like that, today it's illegal but due to lack of money it happens more often. Back in the day before the war Vietnam's economy was growing as fast as Hong Kongs (i don't know if that's just south vietnam or both sides combined).
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT, you look foolish.
"But wait, as you claim that all the prostitutes are from Thailand or other countries, so can you please explain this? If what you say is true, then most of the attractive people in your country is actually mixed Thai or Chinese and not vietnamese."
At those times prostitution amongst the vietnamese population was ILLEGAL, so as a solution they brought in FOREIGN prostitutes to satisfy the americans. It doesn't mean the women aren't beautiful because as a fact most of the thai prostitutes went home. Today most are viet, but NO DUH. In china the majority of prostitues would be chinese, in singapore singaporean, in japan japanese, in korea korean. NO DUH. TODAY NO DOUBT. During the war it wasn't true.
A MAJOR crack down is happening in vietnam to throw all prostitutes and drug addicts into rehab. I think it's working already 200k people are in rehab, very little people are left on the streets (EVERYONE found with drugs and found as prostitutes are thrown in rehab, it's like jail). That's throughout vietnam, that's still WAY less then what china or thailand has.
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.
OK, of course weather has got to do with the skin color. The pink hue is a REAL thing but is more common in north and central vietnam. Also the population of northern and central vietnam are MUCH lighter then the south. It's also a fact that most of the american immigrants are southerners, like what 90% of all people who left are southerners, so what people see are darker viets, making the misconception that all viets are dark when only the southerners are (due to weather and khmer influence and some cham also). The central and north is close to free of cham and khmer, and also an intense hatred for chinese (hence the lack of side by side living of chinese and viet people in the north, usually chinese people move to the south).
Get your facts straight! Like most of todays viet stars who are light when you look it up has a family history which is from the north just a few decades ago. Most of the more famous stars or atleast half of them are from the north (for example Paris By Night, Van Son recruit stars from vietnam all the time).
LJLK
Monday, August 05, 2002 at 18:00:49 (PDT)
Just pointing out the facts,
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I do not know what you are talking about. Where, how do you get the idea of almost vietnamese are mixed with french? This tells me a lot about you. Your either ignorant or uneducated.
The facts are a few Vietnamese (less than .1% of the population) mixed with french due to nearly 100 years of french rule. If you compare that french rule with chinese domination period (nearly 1,000 years) then you can see who the vietnamese mixed more. Chinese of course.
Stop your bs. Say what you know.
Sick of young kid
Monday, August 05, 2002 at 10:48:38 (PDT)
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