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As an Asian who grew up in Queens, NY, where I was exposed to all types of Asians, I must say it is tough to distinguish us from one another. However, as you can generally tell apart European races (i.e. a Nordic from an Italian, a Slav from a Spaniard), it is possible to generally distinguish us to a degree.

In most cases, here are some rules:

1) Dark skin indicates Southeast Asians (Vietnamese/Laotian/Cambodian/Thai) or Pacific Islanders (Filipino/Guamanian et al.), as does the presence of full lips and double-fold eyelids. Light skin, smaller eyes and thinner lips usually indicates Oriental origin (China, Korea, Japan).
2) Among the Orientals (China/Korea/Japan), the Chinese are tallest, Japanese shortest and Korean the biggest.
3) The Japanese tend to be the hairiest among all East Asians.
4) Koreans tend to have the squarest jaws, flattest face and smallest eyes, which gives them a readily distinguishable look.
5) The Chinese tend to have less flat faces (nose and mouth jutting out more than Koreans, with more cases of buckteeth), with smaller jaws than Koreans.
6) The Japanese tend to be the shortest among all Asians. I mean seriously short.

Disclaimer: The above are some of the guidelines I use to distinguish members of my own race from each other. They do not mean to degrade or stereotype. The individual variations within each race are so huge that racial groupings are difficult at best. I myself do not fit the traditional "Korean" look described above, even though I am Korean. I have been mistaken as Chinese, Filipino, Japanese and even half-white at different times.

We dont all look the same! Monday, July 08, 2002 at 12:58:23 (PDT)

Filipinos in the islands resent the Chinese influence in their homeland. Chinese businesses come in exploiting many filipinos, many of whom work extremely low paying jobs for these big businesses. Chinese who come to Philippines are slow to assimilate, they have their own schools, and chinatowns. Fair or not, the richest person in the Philippines is CHINESE. But that being said, The Philippines doesnt have a problem with the Chinese coming in, LETS FACE IT, Filipinos are moving out!

Japa Kneez Monday, July 08, 2002 at 12:36:41 (PDT)

To "lkajlksajlfjalk":

You posted, "Lol, just to say, why was a city named after a type of feet. Sounds rediculous to me..."

Ridiculous? Why you must be more ridiculous than ever to ask a modern man about this...why don't you go back in time and tell them how ridiculous they were. Huh?? Still puzzled...
The TraveLLer Monday, July 08, 2002 at 11:25:43 (PDT)

GV,

BTW, if you are so curious about the treaty of 1874, here's the website that you can email to: http://www.france.diplomatie.fr/archives/

Here the Telephone & Fax numbers:

Paris : telephone (33) 1 43 17 42 90 and / or send a fax to (33) 1 43 17 52 84

Nantes : telephone (33) 2 51 77 25 25 and / or send a fax to (33) 2 51 77 24 60

Colmar : telephone (33) 3 89 21 75 75 and / or send a fax to (33) 3 89 21 75 76.

J'espere que vous pouvez parler Francais avec les gens. Si vous ne vouler pas etudier une autre langue, c'est domage mon petit ami. Bonne chance...
The TraveLLer Monday, July 08, 2002 at 11:08:59 (PDT)

EVERYONE!

I'm going back to vietnam for the 5th time now, i think i might beable to visit a Cham village for a few hours this time. If there is ANY place you want to recommend me to go to then tell me, because it's going to be fun... AGAIN...

I've been to basically all the major attractions, but maybe there's some unknown beautiful garden or something you can tell me about.

And for those who think i don't believe them in any argument about vietnam then tell me now. Like the traveller and his 'doctor' friends. Tell me some of their names if they live in vietnam, because for sure MOST/CLOSE TO ALL of all the MOST famous and notable doctors are still in vietnam, you only see a few outside of vietnam. I can basically go to a lot of the historical museums and talk to the professors at universities and stuff for a day or two...

Hahaha, it's gonna be fun, AGAIN. I've been to franch, italy, china, japan, switzerland, usa, canada, and egypt. They all have their nice parts, but for some reason vietnam caught my heart like a newborn first seeing his mother. It's just beautiful. Just got to say to those people who are going for the first time, don't waste your time at the cities too much, too much pollution, go to a nice village. Or a smaller city like Nha Trang or something...
General Viet Monday, July 08, 2002 at 10:58:02 (PDT)

General Viet,

Since you are the one who kept saying that the modern Vietnamese were descendant of the Dong Son Vi please provide me your logically proofs. You have yet to post any support to your claims. There's one website that stated that the Dong Son Vi may have been perished or integrated with the "Yueh" or "Viet". If there are some descendants to the Dong Son Vi's, the closest ethnic nowadays may be the "Muong", but they may also have been mixed with the "Yueh".

I am aware that there are some civilizations that inhabited in the northern part of Vietnam, but these populations may be decreased in size after several thousands years. One example is the northern American Indians, after the European took over their land, they started to shrink in size, and some tribes even vanished. Recently, after the genocide of the Jewish, the new world order was established by the UN to protect every ethnic from being extinct. People in the old days weren't that lucky, as the modern ones; after being invaded by another group, a massacre and genocide often took place and could lead to an extinction of a race. This is one major factor that should never rule out when dealing with anthropology. Thus, the Dong Son Vi may have been perished or became a minority group.

The TraveLLer Monday, July 08, 2002 at 10:33:07 (PDT)

I feel that among asians given in the poll list chinese are the most attractive looking people.i find the chinese girls very attractive. i find japanese are very honest and if they do a mistake they accept it , and not wrongly claim they havent done it. i am a pakistani american and i think my group can score very well if you have it in your polls.
SALIM LOVEPOOL2001@YAHOO.COM Monday, July 08, 2002 at 03:00:02 (PDT)

General Viet,

It seems to me that you don't know much about the Vietnam's history. yet, all you hear is from your family member who seem to be a nationalist nowadays. I'm not too suprise, that's something I expected from you. It's no wonder the French when occupied Vietnam considered the Vietnamese as "IGNORANT".

During the Vietnam war, our family is considered to be a loyalist to the South Vietnam Government. We are acquainted with the family of the former president of S. Vietnam, "Nguyen Van Thieu".

There is only one descriptive "Toe" that's specifically determine a "Viet"...that's "Giao Chi".

There's no other feet as you bluntly illustrated all this time. If you want to get together, leave me your email. I'll call you myself.

BTW, the Trung sisters were during 40-43 A.D., not 5 A.D. as you posted in one of your posts. Please, go and read some history rather than making faulty assumption. The Dong Son Vi people, if they still do exist they might be in the minority group, they are not the 90% of the Vietnamese that you claimed.

I honestly don't like the Chinese communist system applying its force toward its near neighbors and citizen; however, I don't let hatred get in the way to pursue real history. It's not political that I'm interest...it's real history.
The TraveLLer Monday, July 08, 2002 at 02:20:49 (PDT)

k,

there are fewer definetely "Caucasian" characteristics than you might think:
-extremely long and narrow nose,
-extremely light pigmentation.

All other characteristics found on Caucasoids are not so specific that they would not occur among unmixed people of other races (e.g.light-blond and hairy Melanesians on Vanuatu).

The double-eyelid is -as far as I know- not typically Caucasian.It occurs mostly among Amerindians(!),Tibetans(!), Indians and Semites.

The comparison of Ainus with Russians is interesting but Ainus and Russians are more similar to each other than Indians, Amerindians and Tibetans.

The races of today weren't inbred enough to develop characterics more different from those of other races.Without mixture you can be sure that certain characteristics of an earlier stage of development may appear again.Think of "werewolf" people with fur-covered bodies.-A fur cannot be considered as "Caucasian" feature.Most Caucasians would agree with the statement that a fur would be "non-human" at all.

Some Mongolids with abundant body-hair:

-Northern Turks (they're virtually pure-bred) including Tofalars,Tuvas, Shors and some smaller tribes.

-Inner Mongolians.
-NW coastal Amerindians like Tlingit, Haida,Salish tribes.
-some Northern Tibetan groups .
-some Indonesian tribes.
-finally,of course Ainus.

Japanese are basically Ainus who have intermingled with racially
1) Polynesian (Hokkaido),
2) Malay (Kyushu,Shikoku,Ryukyu etc),
3) Tungus (whole Japan,except Ryukyu),
4) NW-Han or related people (Kyushu, Shikoku).

Last but not least I suppose that there are less hairy people in East Asia because of genocide: when people with bald bodies and better weapons arrived they discriminated against the hairy people, e.g. they could call them "werewolves".

rare stuff Monday, July 08, 2002 at 01:17:05 (PDT)

k and the truths,

Your info is outdated and incorrect. For decades, it was assumed that the Yayoi people, the basis of the modern Japanese, originated from Manchuria because linguists incorrectly concluded that Japanese was an Altaic language. Recent DNA genetic research and archeological evidence (1999) by Japanese researchers demonstrates that the Yayoi people are a southern-type rice-eating people who were defeated by the Yue people near the Yangtze River (China) and left as refugees by boats. http://www.trussel.com/prehist/news146.htm http://www.carleton.ca/~bgordon/Rice/papers/gujx98.htm

From a historical point of view, the massive migration by boats across the East China Sea 2,300 years ago by the defeated Yayoi refugees from the Yangtze River area to southern Korea and Japan was the singular most important event for the Japanese archipelagos. Literally overnight, those areas received a massive boost in intelligence, became transformed into advanced rice cultures after 10,000 years of primitive aboriginal existence, and would later one day supply the world with electronic devices and motorized vehicles affecting the lives of all humanity. It is the greatest F.O.B. story ever told.

Little else is known about the Yayoi people, simply because like all other non-Chinese people in East Asia, their ability to write would have to await many centuries later. Nonetheless, the Yayoi people are the basis of the modern Japanese and to a lesser extent South Koreans. Not surprisingly, the DNA results show close genetic relationship between Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans, which only reinforces the theory that the defeated Yayoi of the Yangtze River area left as refugees from the invading Yue from the south. The Yayoi introduced irrigated rice growing into southern Korea and Japan around 300 B.C. http://www.carleton.ca/~bgordon/Rice/papers/zhimin99.htm

Prior to that southern Korea and Japan were occupied by even more primitive Austronesian people, with some of their linguistic imprints still found in the Korean and Japanese language. http://www.dai3gen.net/epage10a.htm http://www.dai3gen.net/epage13.htm Little is known about the Yayoi, simply because like all other non-Chinese people in East Asia, their ability to write would have to await many centuries later. Nonetheless, the Yayoi people are the basis of the modern Japanese and to a lesser extent South Koreans.

The Rape of Nanjing of 1937 is an event that will live in infamy. Incidentally, the city of Nanjing is the capital of Jiangsu Province, the ancient heartland of the Yayoi. The history of the Japanese people is beginning to sound like the story of the Prodigal Son who returns home to rape his own mother and sisters! Nonetheless, it is important to understand the context of the Japanese psyche at the time of the atrocity committed by the Japanese upon other Asians; the Japanese simply did not comprehend that they were Asians during the critical time period of the Second World War, not that it excuses them for the killing of a third of a million people in Nanjing alone. http://www.tribo.org/nanking/

We now know, at last, the Ainus were originally an Australoid people and that the Japanese language has an Australoid origin not an Altaic one. The Japanese people are a mixture of southern non-Han Chinese, Jomon, and Australoid-type peoples. Like modern southern Chinese, the Japanese people are rice and fish eaters, whereas northern Chinese are millet eaters.

the real truth Monday, July 08, 2002 at 00:04:48 (PDT)

k,

Actually I think the Ainus look Austronesian but without the midnight black skin. They have the same faces. Some Austronesians have blonde hair but skin as black as Africans.

Ainus are generally shorter than Russians by more than a foot.
Why don't people look at Ainu's Polynesian/Austroloid DNA? Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 17:44:09 (PDT)

The TraveLLer:

Empress Nam Phuong, reknown for her beauty and charm, was a Vietnamese woman. Her real name is Nguyen Huu Thi Lan.

I've seen pics of my greatgrand father, grandparents who are 100 % viet and they don't look much different.

The french could prohibite many things but neverwere they able to erase Vietnamese folklore...their stating ALMOST vietnamese folklore borrows from khmer. Could you name me at least some?? this is very wrong...

Admit the site is blatantly biased...
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General Viet: I believe Hung Kings were true figures. There were 18 geneations of Hung King. there were no documentation on them back then because in those eras, the historian works weren't yet in effect. They probably didn't know how to write, read...hence no records of history.

Shen Nung, Lac Long QUan were true people. Shen Nung is a very popular w/ chinese.
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just a question...i notice a lot of Southern Vietnamese have their names containing 4 words of which 2 imply the family name...for example: Nguyen Dinh Xuan Huy...
I almost never seen or heard about any northern vietnamese w/ this kind of name.

viet flava Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 13:20:22 (PDT)

The TraveLLer:

Empress Nam Phuong, reknown for her beauty and charm, was a Vietnamese woman. Her real name is Nguyen Huu Thi Lan.

I've seen pics of my greatgrand father, grandparents who are 100 % viet and they don't look much different.

The french could prohibite many things but neverwere they able to erase Vietnamese folklore..

Admit the site is blatantly biased...
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General Viet: I believe Hung Kings were true figures. There were 18 geneations of Hung King. there were no documentation on them back then because in those eras, the historian works weren't yet in effect. They probably didn't know how to write, read...hence no records of history.

Shen Nung, Lac Long QUan were true people. Shen Nung is a very popular w/ chinese.
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just a question...i notice a lot of Southern Vietnamese have their names containing 4 words of which 2 imply the family name...for example: Nguyen Dinh Xuan Huy...
I almost never seen or heard about any northern vietnamese w/ this kind of name.

viet flava Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 13:17:58 (PDT)

TO the TraveLLer:

�Triệu Vũ-đế [Zhao Wu-di], who developed the territory of our Việt realm, proclaiming himself emperor to stand up to the Han� was the first to initiate the imperial institution in our country. His achievement could be described as immense. The later sovereigns of Việt may imitate Triệu Vũ-đế in their task of buttressing the frontiers and strengthening the military and political or�ganization. It is by employing virtue in their relations with the neighbouring countries and be�nevolence for the preservation of their throne that they will succeed in protecting durably the national territory, since the northern men will have no reason to come and pry into their affairs.�[8]

Get back to the site www.newADvent.com you provided. And then please read it carefully
along w/ this latest piece of info.

From newadvent.com:

"the first rulers of Vietnam come from royal house of China"

1.Trieu Da CERTAINLY didn't come from royal house of China. NO NO. he was a very run-of the mill avreage general!!!I suggest you read "Su ky Tu Ma Thien". in the chapter "Nam Viet", they elaborate on what Trieu Da was like as a person and as a ruler.

2.newadvent.org refer to the RULERS which doesn't imply it has to be an imperial constitution. HUng kings or AN DUong Vuong were the first rulers, not Trieu Da.

I hope i don't offend you, but i honestly think you should read more history books. I need to add that i''m pretty tired to read and discuss over and over and over again about Viet-sino equality issues...i will only mention about the major flaw of logic confirming that "The first rulers of Vietnam come from royal house of China" and the way newadvent depict Vietnamese so biased.

Just address those issues first!
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I'm so tired of this kind of discussion... Could you find any valid arguments instead of being nit-picking on the flaws of other posters. What's the use?

Go straight to the point Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 12:42:34 (PDT)

To, the traveller;

*kins�man Pronunciation Key (knzmn)
n.
A male relative.
A man sharing the same racial, cultural, or national background as another.*

Uh, the Nguyen and Trinh kind of didn't share the same blood with the chinese, or same background. Cultural everyone kind of did, confucious, Quang Trung was confucious too. I don't see your argument.

I bet you have NO proof at all.
General Viet Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 12:33:44 (PDT)

To, the traveller;

Actually the Nguyen family and the Trinh family were separate. When Le Loi needed help he asked both families separately, and even then there was tention. Nguyen generals and Trinh generals were both extremely talented.
carmael Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 12:21:11 (PDT)

To, General Viet;

You seem to have a good point there, i checked up on the sources you've given and what you say does make sence. If the chinese courts had so much power they would have taken leaders like Quang Trung and Le Loi off the throne, since through the eyes of the chinese courts at that time they were traitors. But instead they accepted them as rulers of Annam. What does that say about the true power of china over Annam at that time? It actually was very small, but only symbolic through the means of acceptance.

The traveller seems to be a little bit off the rocker. But oh well, i guess your gonna have to deal with him. Lol, i feel sorry for you that you have to reply to non-sense posts. I don't see how his replies (recently) reflect your posts at all. The chinese had more influence over the nation as a whole, but what you were stating is that the viet populace didn't like chinese. From his posts i can see it was mutual, so there's no argument, i don't see the flaw.
Canto-Chinese American Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 12:18:52 (PDT)

To, the traveller;

Lol, your going nuts here brother. At first i thought you were one of those history geniuses who found another stunning source to history. Now i know your just a bat without ears, blind and cannot hear.

You've seem to have twisted MANY people's posts around and just replied to them with a twisted mind set. Like the recent posts you've done and replied to G.V. which HAS NOTHING or doesn't prove contrary or otherwise about his ideas.

You seem to be smoking up some good propaganda. Your like one of those guys who believed the holocaust never happened, and believes in a few books. Lol, it's kind of funny.
Hafti Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 12:08:56 (PDT)

*>>>Actually, the Trung sisters only occupied the Northern Viernamese territory for ~3 years...uhh, the Han stayed 1000 years. The Chinese ruled Vietnam from 111 BC to 939 AD, the Trung sister controlled from 40 AD to 43 AD. 3/1000 years, who had more of a saying power, the Han or the local? Who was conquering who at this time? If my memory doesn't serve me wrong, all the high rank officials, laws, orders and technologies were the Hans... It looks like the local Vietnamese's had no saying and were logically not being accepted in the society at that time, since they were under the control of the Chinese. ME t'ink dis guy iz bent on real history fact.... Where is a simple logic of explanation, as I questioned????*

Lol, your going nuts eh? I didn't say that the Trung Sisters had more power or say then the chinese. The chinese for sure had more say, BUT through the history of vietnam, the Trung sisters set a sense of rivalry against the chinese. The reason why there were so many uprisings against the chinese was because of the unequal and unjust rule of the chinese. Lol, so what if the chinese society didn't accept the vietnamese at that time? It doesn't even correspond with MY posts, i was saying that during the Trung Sisters time, vietnamese people didn't accept chinese people into their society. If it was mutual then fine, but i don't see a flaw. And i was stating the fact that even the high officials who offered to marry poor peasants were turned down, hence the famous general le chan's family massacre by the chinese governor at that time. You don't know how to read? Insulting is what you do best because it seems that you have no point in being here. There is no flaw, all your saying is that the chinese had more influence and the vietnamese weren't accepted. MY posts didn't say otherwise, but only that the vietnamese felt the same, and that the chinese relocated themselves after so that they can be with other Han in guangdong instead of being with the unaccepted savage as you seem to say.

*Are you assuming or is there any fact to this? Seem to me it's based on your opinion.*

It's a FACT. You might want to read up on the war history.

*geez, General Viet, why don't you ask Quang Trung that question? As fas as I know, He made peace with the emperor of China and died in 1792. Have you thought that perhaps he didn't want to see more blood shed? Or was he planning another suprise attack, but unfortunately died before the action was carrying out? Or could it be a blunder made by him? Who knows, but all of these could be a variant gesture of him not to continue invading China. Heck, Why don't you ask him yourself, rather to make an assumption?*

Just wanted to say your getting a bit rusty and faulty. I didn't say anything about asking Quang Trung or that he himself would have known the outcome. BUT only the FACT that MANY MANY chinese dynasties came up to rule through LITTLE rebellions. Your saying that the outcome would have been known before hand, but what i was saying is that the outcome is unpredictable, and THAT was what made Quang Trung a dangerous guy.

*This may sound like a propaganda, but I believe the separation gave France the enjoyment in tranquility to rule Vietnam. Like I said, how could 10,000 French soldiers control 15 million people? Basically, it worked through separation. The 1950's Northern Vietnamese were hated by the southerners when they immigrated to the South. Actually, all three ethnically regions hated each other during this era.*

Obviously the french DIDN'T control very effectively didn't they? Even during french rule, there were MANY uprisings and MANY heroes who lead vietnam eventually to independence. They MIGHT have controlled the territory, BUT once again, they never actually controlled the people.

*During the French occupation, Chinese opera were confiscated, Han language was prohibited in some degree and resistances were beheaded. Old annals and history records were destroyed, so that colonization would be less difficult. French purpose of separating the Chinese culture to Vietnam was to control the rulers of Vietnam. In addition, they divided the three regions of Vietnam. That is why many rebelled the French during this era.*

Once again NO backup but an editorial.

*Royal blood line doesn't mean that one has to marry to Emperor's sons or daughter. It's through the royal's kins. Man, what have you been eating in America?

BTW, the Nguyen and the Trinh were related at the beginning.*

Lol, the Nguyen and Trinh families were two different families at the BEGINNING who supported Le Loi. NOT the same bloodline, at the beginning, the Nguyen and Trinh were even rivals, that's during Le Loi's time. AND give me some facts, your just throwing out false BTW's and FYI's. Just like that Nguyen crap. If you read my posts, you'll see a link stating the origin of the last name Nguyen.

AFTER EVERY posts, you seem to get stupid. Look at all the arugments you've stated against me. NONE of my posts has even been about what you were saying, no proving of the contrary to my posts. If you TRY to read my posts.

Like when you said i said the Muong were dark. I only said that half of the muong I KNOW were dark probably because of sunburn. The muong were light skinned.
General Viet Sunday, July 07, 2002 at 12:05:31 (PDT)

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