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COMPARING ASIAN NATIONALITIES
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Korean Man, would you mind telling us about what you collect regarding the ainu people at libraries?
k Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 11:16:43 (PDT)

Has anyone followed this?

Before the editor posted out the posts for 07/12/2002, (Updated Friday, Jul 12, 2002, 10:25:37 AM to reflect the 100 most recent valid responses.).

GV (or whatever):

Asked "Yup", if he wrote "GV"'s name?

here's what's posted by GV on: General Viet Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 13:36:51 (PDT), >>>>" To, Yup;

Lol, was it you who wrote that post that wasn't mine but under my name? I just spoke to hafti over msn and he said he didn't. Or was it the traveller trying to make things up and post it as me... Ah whatever, who cares... "<<<<

As quite remarkable "Yup" posted on the same day, but before 26 minutes: >>>>To, Hafti;

To, The TraveLLer;

*Hahaha, i avoid the viet discussion for a reason you know... I only noticed that you was going nuts on these boards here, so stop saying weird stuff ok... Plus, my writing isn't like G.V.! He sounds older, but whatever you know, whatever.

To, G.V.;

Good luck on your trip...*

You see how easy it is to copy someone's writing? I don't want to piss off the real G.V. too much, hehehe... G.V. doesn't have to fake to get a point out, plus, it's hard to sound the same. My attempts on being G.V. was screwed but hey, i'm just showing YOU people how hard it is trying to fact to be someone. So traveller, stop trying to be paranoid...

Yup Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 13:10:36 (PDT) <<<<

Before the editor posted out the new posts for July 12, 2002, how does "GV" have a guess that "Yup" was the one who signed his name? It could be anyone... After examining this, I will give two probable scientific explanations:
1) Coincidence.
2) Bipolar disorder w/ multiple personality.

You'll be the judge.

Quite remarkable in human psychological development.
The TraveLLer Saturday, July 13, 2002 at 14:23:02 (PDT)

k,

hairyness is sometimes difficult to discover (through thick clothes). But there's no doubt that the Mongoloid phenotypes can vary as much as other. If we Asians didn't admit the individual's possible extent of departure from our "classic type" without admixturewe could be sterotyped as inbred.

Curly hair for example is generally considered to be "un-Asian". But if you let your hair grow you'll see that even in an "isolated purely Mongoloid" area there is a constant amount of people with curly or wavy hair although less than among peoples of other races. So the assumption all pure-bred "Han Chinese", Koreans etc would have straight hair is not correct.-I admit that you'll see many long-haired AFs with clearly straight hair on the streets. But I think with males it's different. Males tend to have more curly/wavy hair than females.You just don't see that because most males wear their hair short. And it's nothing like "Malay or Persian influence" if it occurs even in NO-Siberia among inbred Chukchi people.
rare stuff Saturday, July 13, 2002 at 10:32:49 (PDT)

yehenala shi,

you mentioned Dowager Cixi, one of my great grandmothers looks similar to Dowager Cixi. There are also not many "nice" people in my family. Could there be a (racial) relationship?
I don't know much about the history of my family.We are not so much Han,maybe.
manchu? Saturday, July 13, 2002 at 10:08:01 (PDT)

One Korean Man,

Hyundai's position is not too much different when Japanese cars were making their initial entry into the U.S. market. When people pay more attention to it, they have more capital to upgrade later brands.

About the Chinese-Korean DNA connections: Who cares less? I am Chinese, and Chinese people never go out of their way to say Koreans and Japanese are the from the same as us. Not too long ago, Japanese and Koreans were still labeled as "Dong Yang Guizu" (Eastern barbarians).

Look at it this way: There are 2 brothers from the same father. But, it doesn't mean the brother is the same as the other. NO WAY!

And, I don't think Mongols and Chinese are so closely related as you infer. From many genetic research, I have seen that Chinese, Tibetans, Japanese, Koreans and even the Manchus of China all cluster closest to each other than with others. Mongols are close, but more distant. This is from the mtDNA analysis.

The Taiwanese study is BS crap. A Japanese/Italian team who did very prominent research on Central Asian genes (Uighurs, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz of Soviet Union) mentions the Taiwanese (not northern Han) having 6 shared genetic markers with Central Asians (esp. Uighurs) and that Koreans have 4. Now, if Koreans are closer to Central Asians than Taiwanese, why would the genes be farther distant?

The fact is that the paternal genes (haplotypes) of southern Chinese has a very strong original Han Chinese element.

I am inclined to believe the study done by the 4 Korean geneticists. Let me tell you why. They have no political motive in sharing their analysis. In fact, the study they did only breaks the common held belief that Koreans were a pure Mongol/Manchu tribe. Moreover, they had borrowed and advanced from the work and research of previous geneticists.

But, please remember again: Although two brothers may have come from one father, it does not mean they are the same. They are not clones of each other.
Corea is Corea and China is China Saturday, July 13, 2002 at 01:16:12 (PDT)

one Korean man,

Your post on what car to get was one of the most shallow s*** I've ever read. You may know a lot about genes, but you have a shallow mindset.
shallow hal Saturday, July 13, 2002 at 00:20:17 (PDT)

T.H.Lien poste: "traveller:
"ha lau" is the Cantonese reading of the written word (not used colloquially). mandarin would be xia lou."

Thank you for bringing it to my attention. As you notice, old Vietnamese is mixed with Cantonese and Mandarin when reading Chinese characters. As I've got use reading Chinese, I started to use less Pinyin style to pronouce characters. So I forget how to write it correctly in Pinyin style. However, my point is the "H" in Vietnamese is usually sounded as a "X" in Mandarin.

Some Cantonese words are also off from Mandarin, such as the word "river". Cantonese pronunciation is "Kong", Mandarin(pinyin) would be "Jiang", and Vietnamese is "Giang".

"Hai"(meaning sea), for example, is employed by both Mandarin and Vietnamese when pronoucing that character; whereas, cantonese is "Hoi".

Again, thank you. Afterall, romanize mispelling is not important when reading the Chinese characters.

Be well
The TraveLLer Friday, July 12, 2002 at 21:27:40 (PDT)

List of America's favorite vehicles:

(according to AutoPacific)

Premium Luxury Car: Lexus LS 430

Contemporary Luxury Car: Lexus ES 300

Luxury/Large Car (tie): Cadillac DeVille and Toyota Avalon

Premium Midsize Car: Nissan Altima

Midsize Car: Hyundai Sonata

Compact Car: Volkswagen New Beetle

Sports Car: Lexus SC 430

Sporty Car: Mercury Cougar

Green Car: Toyota Prius

Large Pickup: Chevrolet Silverado Heavy Duty

Compact Pickup: Toyota Tacoma

4-Door Pickup: Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab

Luxury SUV: Cadillac Escalade

Large SUV: Ford Excursion

Midsize SUV (tie): Hyundai Santa Fe and Toyota Highlander

Compact SUV: Honda CR-V

Minivan: Kia Sedona
Daimler-Hyundai Friday, July 12, 2002 at 21:04:56 (PDT)

DaimlerChrysler and Mitsubishi to use Hyundai technology:

http://detnews.com/2002/autosinsider/0205/06/autos-482712.htm

SEOUL (Bloomberg) Hyundai Motor Co., South Korea's largest automaker, said its new venture with DaimlerChrysler AG and Mitsubishi Motors Corp. will use an engine based on its technology and lead to royalty payments from the partners.
The automakers will each make 500,000 passenger car engines, based on Hyundai Motor's newly developed model. The 1.8 to 2.4- liter engines will be made at the automakers' own plants and be used for their own future models. The Korean automaker expects to receive royalty payments for its engine design starting in 2005.
...
DaimlerChrysler and Hyundai Motor formed a venture last year to produce engines for commercial vehicles.
Daimler-Hyundai Friday, July 12, 2002 at 21:03:11 (PDT)

"Hyundai derived" engine:

The Hyundai base engine architecture will (this has been confirmed in the press already) be used by ALL of DCX (this includes Mercedes). Each Group will design and engineer it's own unique models from this base architechure. Everything from a 80-90hp 1.1L to a fire breathing 300hp 2.5L is possible from the base engine.
Daimler-Hyundai Friday, July 12, 2002 at 21:02:14 (PDT)

To General Viet (or whatever):

IF you happen to be on trip, then sooner or later you will read this message.

Here's what you posted:

---->"*Can you back this statement of yours, " It is said that the Yueh moved south, but they WERE openly killed in several occations of which at many times making them an even smaller minority group. But the Dong Son reigned on and on, traditions and such were carried on. Stories were mixed with some Yueh ones but, most of the viet stories today can be proven by the evidence in escavated sites in vietnam today. "?*

Ok, the backup was your site that you gave on vietnam migrations. Well, it's on a post on Wednesday, July 10, 2002 at 11:13:25 (PDT) (which should be on the same page as your question)..." <-----

I think you may have misinterpreted the literature on that website. Here's what the website(http://www.hawaii.edu/cseas/pubs/vietnam/vietnam.html) stated:

This is what it stated in its last paragraph: >>>>"Chinese people and influence gradually filtered into the area and created lasting changes for the people considered today as members of the original Vietnamese society."<<<<

Therefore, this stated that the Chinese PEOPLE and their influence by far have filtered the area, hence it's likely that most of today's Vietnamese came from China. But before the Chinese migrated there, there were another moderate civilization that was already established there. There's no doubt that there could be some mixture among all these clans, creating the modern Vietnamese.

The author acknowledged that long before the Chinese people had settled in that territory, there were other civilizations with different culture backgroud living there. One example would be the US, although the European had changed its landscape and population, the north American indians were the first to roam the land.

Actually, few years ago, one of the achaeology findings in the US soil reported that a Caucasoid framented bone with the carbon data surpassing the age of every northern American indian was to be considered among the first to live in the US ground. It's quite interesting to see how the earth was shaped.

Anyway, in this paragraph, it illustrated that the Dong Son population was decreasing in size due to the fact that many new settlers from the north(China) had made a strong impact on changing the population and culture to this region:
>>>>>What is clear to historians about these last three centuries BC is the amount of rapid change which occurred, much of which is depicted on the Dong Son drums. It was usually members of the aristocracy of various groups who streamed into the area of the Red River. They attempted to live the lives to which they had been accustomed, bringing technology, food, and other customs with them to Vietnam. In addition, the newcomers wanted power of their own. After An Duong united various groups in the area, more deposed leaders of the Ch'in Dynasty (which was now losing to the emerging Han Dynasty in China) arrived in the area. One Ch'in leader, Chao T'o, defeated An Duong and divided the area of the Tonkin Delta into two prefects, Giao Chi and Cuu Chan in 111 BC. The Lac lords, or leaders of the Au Lac kingdom, retained their power for a while. However, this marked the end of life as the Au Lacs or Dong Son people knew it, and the beginning of the long period of Chinese colonization. <<<<

Your statement, ***But the Dong Son reigned on and on, traditions and such were carried on.****

Wrong, the Dong Son didn't carry on the reign like you said. They were probably perished or decreased in size.

The TraveLLer Friday, July 12, 2002 at 16:05:40 (PDT)

TraveLLer:

Hey, did you read my post concerning the Lac Long QUan, Au Co origin yersterday? I beg you to read it again and you'll find interesting infos about the NGuyen surname. The Sons of Kinh Duong Vuong already had the first name NGuyen,it must be 4000-5000 years before chinese invasion. basically Nguyen is A Vietnamese name. The book is by Vo Trong Thai and other authors.
Viet Flava Friday, July 12, 2002 at 12:05:57 (PDT)

To, One Korean Man;

"What does height got to do with manhood anyway??"

Hmmm, my cousin was 21 before he had a wife. And after he had a wife he actually grew 3 cm! hehehe
Hafti Friday, July 12, 2002 at 12:05:54 (PDT)

the real truth :

actually, Ainus have been greatly mixed with Japanese and they for the most part look like Japanese, very Asian. It's kinda hard to find a pure Ainu Nowaday whose race seems to be a big question.
Pure Ainu Friday, July 12, 2002 at 12:02:15 (PDT)

To, the traveller;

G.V. isn't crazy, i don't think a would be doctor like him would be a have a disease that would effect his learning or thinking patterns negatively...

Plus we had a chat about this over msn yesterday, he seemed a bit pissed that someone faked to be him, he even thought it was me... But then Yup kind of confessed (i think, from what he's saying i think that's what he's going at with the post at the VERY bottom)

Hafti Friday, July 12, 2002 at 11:56:39 (PDT)

To, the traveller;

Interesting, is there written support for this? And is your last name Trinh? (i'm guessing yes, BUT as you said the family was under persecution or might have been so a change in last name could have occured) And that proves that in a way the Nguyen and Trinh lords were related, but in no way were they from the same family (i translate that in the way that they were once under one name and split), but the Trinh's are only related through marriage, not actually being part of the family 'originally'.

BUT the other half of my question WAS NOT yet replied to. From that HOW does it make the Trinh and Nguyen families of royal chinese bloodline. Or atleast of their kin? I have a friend who's a descendent of Gia Long, and he hates the chinese so much, i don't know why. Maybe some of his family was killed in the war with china in 1979 (i don't know much about that war, only saw a reference to it).

Hmmm, vancouver is sweet, i have to enjoy the beach so i won't beable to reply a WHOLE lot, just a few points i'm curious on will be presented...

Looking Away Friday, July 12, 2002 at 11:53:32 (PDT)

To, the traveller;

Lol, G.V. isn't insane, lol. I was just playing with him, trying to show people HOW EASY it is to mimic another persons writing. That post was made by me. I was trying to prove that EVEN without using the SAME grammar and words, a normal person (Like YOU) can believe that it's that person. So thus the reason WHY you mixed things up and got Hafti and G.V. mixed up as ONE person.

Again i made it OBVIOUS of that by even posting as me (Yup) even posting to G.V. himself TO see if anyone will see the obvious mimicry. But lol, no one did even notice that, only you, and you seriously thought it was him.

Plus from now one, he'll be in vietnam, hence good luck i gave him on his travels, i think he said he'll be gone for a few weeks. So just trying to make it obvious that anyone trying to post as him from now on will be an imposter.
The funny thing is that he thought it was Hafti or you, and he barely suspected me. Lol, you can tell him later on about this ordeal because it's hilarous.

Oh good luck on your studies in university. You can have 20 patients while still in university? In america you can't have patients until your done university. You stated that you were a university student a few weeks ago and rebutted on the reason WHY you don't believe in a story, then i said that i was going for the phsycological explanation with an example. I remember that one because that's the one where i thought i had to start explaining every single passage, and if i had to i wouldn't have continued on these boards.

To, G.V.;

OK, i am SORRY for posting as you, i was trying to show how easy it is to mimic someone and being thought as you. Hence also the reason, that even being yourself can make you seem like another... It WORKED... Look at his post on it... LOL, oh well, hope you read this and forgive me when you get back...
Yup Friday, July 12, 2002 at 11:48:40 (PDT)

General Viet (or whatever),

When did I state that I was a university student? Please show it to me.
The TraveLLer Friday, July 12, 2002 at 10:36:27 (PDT)

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