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COMPARING ASIAN NATIONALITIES
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Yup (or whatever):

You posted, "Oh good luck on your studies in university. You can have 20 patients while still in university? In america you can't have patients until your done university. You stated that you were a university student a few weeks ago and rebutted on the reason WHY you don't believe in a story, then i said that i was going for the phsycological explanation with an example. I remember that one because that's the one where i thought i had to start explaining every single passage, and if i had to i wouldn't have continued on these boards."

Could you please direct me to where or when I said I am an university student? Quite amazing in human psychological disorder, he/she tend to be in a state of delusion. BTW, have you taken your Prozac lately?
The TraveLLer Monday, July 15, 2002 at 13:17:45 (PDT)

To, the traveller;

"Wrong, the Dong Son didn't carry on the reign like you said. They were probably perished or decreased in size."

Um, ok that's an editorial. How the heck did you get ALL of that from ONE sentence? When other sentences. Um, and actually i didn't see any piece of literature you presented proving that directly. And the word 'probably' signifies an EDITORIAL.

IF you can derive SUCH a nice conclusion from ONE sentence WITHOUT questioning i'll do the same. From the same site i think this passage existed...

"*Even though the original Vietnamese culture developed from a number of merging cultures in the area of the Red River, it is the Dong Son or Au Lac civilization which marks the beginning of the Vietnamese civilization which continues to thrive today.*" (i actually got it off one of G.V.'s post, trying to keep his position on these boards for him... yes i have nothing to do over the summer... hehehe)

From that, historians conclude that even though foreign cultures has moved in to it's influence, the DONG SON civilization was the START OF a civilization which thrives to today. When it says vietnamese and connects it to such a sentence i suspect you understand it. It states that the vietnamese civilization, which thrives to today, meaning that it's STILL HERE, thriving means you are growing, NOT DECREASING IN SIZE OR ANYTHING. Also it is stating that the civilization of the Dong Son is the vietnamese society today, which is thriving. Where from that do you not get that the modern vietnamese civilization is that of the old dong son but just evolved and carries some influences from foreigners?
Hafti Monday, July 15, 2002 at 10:32:27 (PDT)

Pure Ainu,

it would be better to define Ainus as predominately untypical subrace of North Asian Mongolids.Probably they have absorbed a proto-Caucasoid or Polynesian subrace.

Surely, broad foreheads and form of noses might indicate a stronger Caucasoid influence,but not necessarily: there are also lots of pure-bred whites who could be "accused" to have "Mongoloid" features.(Hiter's forehead was also narrow and flat,his eyes were not that deep in the sockets--but that doesn't make him mixed with Mongoloids. Otherwise the nazis would not keep on worshipping him.)

So the best is probably to call the "Caucasoids" among the Ainus (if they are Caucasoid at all) pre-Ainus.
rare stuff Monday, July 15, 2002 at 10:21:32 (PDT)

To, the traveller;

Uh, actually he kind of suspected it was you and yup. But yup kind of admitted it before he said it was you. He said he didn't want to be too rude and make it a big deal so he tried to narrow it down first.

I don't see the validity of your posts. I don't see where your going... Your saying they're the same people because he made a good guess? You know he guessed it was you too you know, not just him. If from what your saying is true, then YOU and YUP should be the same people, because he guessed all of you to be messing with his tag. Even i was a suspect. I was a suspect because, well usually it's the people you know in real life. Yup, well maybe because he likes to annoy people. You, maybe because he thought you might be an asshole.

General Viet Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 13:25:47 (PDT)

He wrote:

"To, hafti;

Was it you that wrote that post that wasn't by me? I'm gonna kick your ass when i get back from the airport in five weeks."

And on 'Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 13:36:51 (PDT)' he wrote
"To, Yup;

Lol, was it you who wrote that post that wasn't mine but under my name? I just spoke to hafti over msn and he said he didn't. Or was it the traveller trying to make things up and post it as me... Ah whatever, who cares..."

Your just trying to connect things VAGUELY which don't even really, well connect. Ok look, he Suspected you to, but you didn't put that into any of your posts. what ignorance... so just because g.v. suspects yup they're the same people? c'mon, that's crazy, ok, look he suspected me and even you. i spoke to him on msn so he crossed me out, he suspect both you and yup before he left.

and that post to g.v. he's kind of gone. i know him in real life, he's gone, he went to vietnam, so stop trying to be rediculous and try to hit someone when they can't even defend! you know that it's the best time right now to destroy his face so you can manipulate history or something, or whatever you were talking about with g.v.

It's kind of pathetic how your carrying on posting to him. You know he can't reply so you keep on posting 'new' posts with different ideas. He can't even reply and stomp on what your saying... oh well...
Hafti Monday, July 15, 2002 at 10:21:29 (PDT)

To " Looking away":

I don't know if my last post was delivered or not, since I 'm experiencing some technical problem. But here's my reply again.

You posted, "Interesting, is there written support for this? And is your last name Trinh? (i'm guessing yes, BUT as you said the family was under persecution or might have been so a change in last name could have occured) And that proves that in a way the Nguyen and Trinh lords were related, but in no way were they from the same family (i translate that in the way that they were once under one name and split), but the Trinh's are only related through marriage, not actually being part of the family 'originally'."

The family name had never change since, we still have the photo of the tomb of our great great grandfather. Why would anyone change his surname to an enemy of the royal family at that time? Instead, our ancestor submerged and lived in a rural area. BTW, I never told you that the Nguyen and the Trinh were relative through blood. I don't know where you get that idea.

"BUT the other half of my question WAS NOT yet replied to. From that HOW does it make the Trinh and Nguyen families of royal chinese bloodline. Or atleast of their kin? I have a friend who's a descendent of Gia Long, and he hates the chinese so much, i don't know why. Maybe some of his family was killed in the war with china in 1979 (i don't know much about that war, only saw a reference to it)."

I Nguyen and the Trinh are royal blood line of Annam. In the old days, those who held the high position usually were granted by the king to marry to one of his kins. This was to established loyalty and trust with his subject, and to the loyalist that was an honor. The Trinh and the Nguyen marriage was one of this example. Since Annam was a territory and/or vassal to China at the time, intermarriage between the royals were common, from Annam to China or by vice versa. The intermarriage usually didn't pertain to the emperors' direct offsprings, but sometimes to their kin.

I guess your friend hated the Chinese due to the 1979 wars, like you said. However, there are a lot of exile Chinese that hated the Red Chinese Communist regime also. Majority of Taiwanese, for example, wants to separate from the mainland. Even some DNA tests were merely for political reason, rather than historical study.
The TraveLLer Monday, July 15, 2002 at 09:30:32 (PDT)

To "Viet Flava":

You posted, "Hey, did you read my post concerning the Lac Long QUan, Au Co origin yersterday? I beg you to read it again and you'll find interesting infos about the NGuyen surname. The Sons of Kinh Duong Vuong already had the first name NGuyen,it must be 4000-5000 years before chinese invasion. basically Nguyen is A Vietnamese name. The book is by Vo Trong Thai and other authors."

And when did Vo Trong Thai publish his books? Where did he get the sources? I will give you a clue after you let me know when did Vo Trong Thai published his book, or rather the other authors too.
The TraveLLer Monday, July 15, 2002 at 08:03:17 (PDT)

Daimler-Hyundai,

It is surprising to see so many Asian imported cars make that list. I know the majority of white people on the east coast still prefer American owned and American made cars. But, in California, the Japanese cars are the rule and not the exception.
Hyundai Excels Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 22:51:32 (PDT)

When I work at hospitals, Asian wives of abusive husbands rarely can be seen in the "ERs." It is mostly black, Latinos and some whites.

But, among Asians, it is mostly Koreans and Japanese (the ones from Asia), whose wives go to those "ERs." One black nurse jokingly told me: "UUUUUUweeeee, that Chinese lady got knocked out pretty bad tonight." I told her the lady was Korean and not Chinese. She apologized, but said she rarely see Asian women come in.

My mom said it was pretty criminal among Chinese to hit and abuse their wives as Americans (she really means other races) do. I asked her why? She didn't know but said in her village, if a man acted that way, he would be scrutinized and be seen as an outcast.

I noticed one thing though. The Chinese (and Vietnamese to some extent) are not as Confucianist as the Japanese and especially, Koreans. Chinese and Vietnamese have elements of Taoism in their cultural and psychological mindframe. In Chinese, the people all practice elements of Confucianism, Buddhism, Taoism, fengshui and other types of ancestral worship. I noticed that they all balance out harmoniously.

In Taoism, sexual relations are openly discussed and encouraged. Sexuality was akin to spirituality for Daoists. To the Taoist masters of China, sex was a sacred duty. It was a form of worship that was believed to lead toward immortality. Sex was to be performed well and often, if one was to achieve harmony with nature.

The Chinese were the first people to produce a detailed sex manual (older than Kama Sutra and Arabian Nights). It came into use about 200 years before the birth of Jesus. In Taoism, the man was expected to extend intercourse as long as possible, thereby absorbing more of his wife's natural essence, or "yin." Yin would enhance his own masculine essence, or "yang." Taoists believe that it was wasteful for a man to "spill his seed." Masturbation, acceptable for Chinese women, was ruled out for men. Although I know most Chinese guys do it. Medical science sees no harm in masturbation, but some studies state that frequent ejaculation produces low sperm count (thus, leads to infertility).
I think Taoism is a good remedy for all the hard work a man does. Remember, you men are the "yang" while your woman is the "yin." You cannot have one without the other. They complement one another and keeps the forces of life in balance and in harmony. It takes 2 to become 1.

One Korean man who sent his wife to the ER is not sorry for what he did. He was a hardcore Christian man, and I introduced him to some elements of Taoism. He asked me why I still practice this type of religion when I am living in the USA? I said that for the Chinese, Taoism is not just a religion. It is our culture and way of livelihood. He asked me for a copy of the book I gave him. He then, later went to get Korean translations. I told him he need not convert, as Taoism is not in conflict with his beliefs in God and Jesus. It will only strengthen it and give it another dimension. I have never seen his wife at the ER again.

Taoism is not as masculine and authoritarian as Confucianism. It gives the individual a more mystical side to life. That is why you see Chinese are less macho compared to Koreans.

Read the works of our Honorable Sage, Laotzu!!!
The way of Tao Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 22:41:03 (PDT)

rarestuff:

after all, race comes in all shape and size. it's just that there exist several separate characteristics btw different races. I'm sure there are 'pure' asian who are hirsute. but well let's talk about the majority. in swimming pool or the beach, 1 out of 10 (or even 20) asian men i see are hairy. but hey it's sexy because i don't think of being hairy as attractive.
k Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 21:32:14 (PDT)

The traveLLer:

"Therefore, this stated that the Chinese PEOPLE and their influence by far have filtered the area, hence it's likely that most of today's Vietnamese came from China. But before the Chinese migrated there, there were another moderate civilization that was already established there. There's no doubt that there could be some mixture among all these clans, creating the modern Vietnamese."

could you specifically name what part of China did they come from? Certainly from southern china. eve if the Qin move to rule VN, they were southern chinese. the Vietnamese weather is way too much for the northern people to suffer.They were actually the Yueh (different from Hans) who moved South...Basically they are more viet than chinese, if not full viets. The old clans were the Malay-indi groups, as supported by your site.

Viet Flava Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 21:21:22 (PDT)

I am Chinese and I live among a lot of Southeast Asians and Hispanics. I noticed that the Philipinos and Vietnamese look a lot like the Mexicans and El Salvadorans. Both peoples must have the same type of racial components (Malayan/Polynesian/Chinese with Mediterranean-Spanish/French).
There must be something similar there Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 20:22:05 (PDT)

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