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ATTITUDE TOWARD F.O.B.S
(Updated Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008, 05:18:19 PM to reflect the 100 most recent valid responses.)

Assuming you are an Asian American, what's your definition of an F.O.B. ("Fresh-off-the-boat" immigrant)?
Anyone not born in the U.S. | 31%
Anyone who speaks with a noticeable accent | 30%
Anyone who acts or dresses old-country | 39%

Assuming you are an Asian American, what's your attitude toward F.O.B.s?
I am fully open to friendships/relationships with them. | 44%
I am friendly but would not want to get too close. | 41%
I generally avoid them on a social level. | 15%

Assuming you are an Asian American, what do you find most annoying about F.O.B.s?
They play into offensive stereotypes. | 15%
They are obsessed with flashy materialism. | 39%
They maintain Asian customs and values. | 0%
They are no more annoying than other AA. | 46%


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AC Dropout,

My husband has lived all over China. Most recently Beijing, but also Shanghai and Guangzhou and several other places in China. I think he grew up in Nanchang--sometimes I get confused since he's lived in so many places. He had several foreigners as friends even in China, but after he went to college. I'm not sure if he was exposed to more than other Chinese or I helped to "Westernize" him or what...but some of his MBC friends who haven't been in the US very long also have very good English, some without real accents. Maybe it is because a lot of his friends are outgoing and are non-PhD professionals so they practice their English more as opposed to PhD types whose written English is probably much better than their spoken.

I'm not sure I totally understand your last paragraph. I'm showing my ignorance here, but what is a WASP?
VA Girl    Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 16:23:56 (PDT)
To: KM, 24

“My question is, have the proper procedures been followed in terms of chemical waste disposal in Taiwan? How bad is this type of pollution in Taiwan? The same type of thing must be happening elsewhere in Asia. It has happened in the US. It is difficult to stop since you don't know the hazard posed by many chemicals until people start developing symptoms.”

Actually, it’s difficult to point out even when you have a bunch of people that a re negatively affected. First, evidence is anecdotal. Second, corporations spend bucks on legal fees to bury all this information.

It wasn’t until the recent decades that the US has become more environmentally conscious. And that’s really only in California. Talk to some oil boilers out in El Paso, Texas, they’ll draw their shotguns at you. Ok, maybe not that bad. But in reality, if ChevronTexaco decides to close down, they can’t – it’s too costly to clean up their sites where the refineries have been leaching oil byproducts into the soil. Same goes with semiconductor facilities here and abroad. They become Federal Super Fund Sites, and we’re left holding the bag, one way or another.

Repost
   Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 00:04:19 (PDT)
AC Dropout,

Hmmm, your current position is a big change from your original posting of:

“PC clones - before copyrighting the "pentium" name no one could copyright the x86 name. This allow cheaper chinese PC clones to permeate the USA market. Without that Microsoft would not dominate and USA successful entry in the service economy would be non-existant. Hence, no .com era or gen X'er etc. There might not even be this forum for you to ran.”

To that of seeing there were significant other factors in the market that caused the prices to go down.

Futhermore, you’ve stated this about HP, “Just because you invent doesn't mean you will dominate the market”. That is so true. Now take this:
1)PC market exists (and expanded – thanks to Chinese according to you), and
2)Microsoft marketed the first OS in x86 system.
OK, now, nothing you argued seem to explain how Chinese or Asians made it possible for Microsoft to dominate, especially given your own statement about HP.

You’ve been forced to change your position greatly, and you still haven’t linked the Asians as the reasons for Microsoft dominance. And yet, you still chastise me on the lack of elegance in my argument? Keep your ego in check dude! I’m still laughing at you!

KM24,

It was argument on how much influence Asians had in Microsoft’s dominance in OS market.

Repost,

True, but at the time the price wars began, Compaq was much more vertically integrated (even in the "lower-end" PC products). This fact was used against AC’s argument that third party OEM/ODM firms allowed Compaq to initiate the price wars.

AA with too much time
   Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 08:53:30 (PDT)
Question:
I came to the states 5 yrs ago, but I lived all my life in South America, so am I a FOB?
KorLat    Tuesday, April 09, 2002 at 00:20:41 (PDT)
penelope --I don't like you either. because it's not a "not in my backyard" thing. you have missed the point.

Angelique makes sense.
saaaaaaad lousy, tormented girl    Monday, April 08, 2002 at 15:41:30 (PDT)
FOBS don't bother me much ... but then again ... I don't run into very many.

pip    Monday, April 08, 2002 at 12:20:29 (PDT)
Angelique,

Don't worry some FOB are equally annoyed at ABC.
AC Dropout    Monday, April 08, 2002 at 09:57:50 (PDT)
sad girl,

I would relax. From your use of English I don't think anyone would think you're FOB.

Depending on the corporate culture, it is always a good thing to make some alliances. Even FOBs have 2 eyes and 2 ears to clue you in.
AC Dropout    Monday, April 08, 2002 at 09:56:28 (PDT)

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