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hmm.. hwarang do. I was curious before and looked some of it up, it seems some claim it is related to Tang dynasty martial arts. Obviously it has been quite a long time and I have read articles detailing the rise and decline of Korean martial arts, as well as Japanese influence, although the latter seems to apply more to TKD.

How effective is it? Is it truly descended from Tang dynasty? That would be odd.. and, exhilarating. =p

lol SEALS trained in ancient Tang style.
No one of consequence Monday, May 06, 2002 at 20:17:43 (PDT)

To AC drop out

you're right why didnt i hink of that, im supposed to be the realist. But guns are a bit boring wouldnt you say.
AZN REalist Monday, May 06, 2002 at 19:58:04 (PDT)

I can't comment on other special forces, but Navy SEALs practice a variety of martial arts, none really derived from traditional martial arts, per se. Mostly, it emphasizes hard hand strikes, chokes, eye gouges, and other things that can be done while still carrying 100 lbs of gear (in other words, there aren't really many kicks). It also emphasizes using whatever you have with you as a weapon (rifle butt, knife, etc.). The previous comment (from SOG) is not entirely correct to say that they finish all their training at BUDs. They have frequent, continuing practice throughout their time in the SEALs.

ex-military Monday, May 06, 2002 at 18:21:13 (PDT)

SOG, I don't know what your martial arts background is, but you generalize martial arts a bit too much sometimes.
I know there are a lot of mediocre martial arts for kiddies type Karate schools out there, but don't go as far to just say that Karate is only good for exercise.
You also seem to overestimate the usefulness of judo. As a former judoka, I can say that I was taught new techniques at a very slow rate and it wasn't that focused on self-defense, unlike Brazilian Jiu-jitsu, JKD, or other more modernized/self-defense oriented martial arts.
Also, many grapplers are not good at taking the impact of punches, kicks, elbows, knees, etc. since they aren't trained to defend against such attacks. I’m not speaking about UFC competitors, but regular people you see taking grappling arts.

As for those who said that roundhouse kicks didn't do much damage to them…
Why is that?
From my experience, kicks often hurt more than punches. Or maybe you're just saying kicks don't hurt as much because you're comparing punches to the head with kicks to your torso.

[If you want to kick ass and learn how to fight for real then study JKD, but dont be so strict, The best move so far in my arsenal is the simple techinques for defense and offense. Kick to the groin, eye jab, throat jab, biting, and the most effective grab the scrotum and try to pull it off!!!.]

Seriously, bud, you seem to be taking the easy way out. Kick to the groin, eye jab, throat jab, biting, and grab to the scrotum? That doesn't exactly show much martial/fighting prowess unless you're mean enough to punch someone in the throat. I'd suggest a four knuckle (otherwise known as a “leopard punch”) to do the job. As far as using an eye jab, I'd prefer to use a four knuckle swipe to the region rather than the more dangerous direct eye jab. Ask yourself, are you really that mean of an SOB to use some of these techniques?

One of the reasons grappling is so prevalent in no-holds barred matches is that it often results in less injuries and the environment is more conducive to using such techniques.

A word of advice, explore various martial arts systems and don’t think you’re a bad ass just because you focus on the supposed most practical/simple techniques like a kick to the groin or eye gouge. It really comes down to how proficient you are in your art(s), how physically fit and technique efficient you are.
Spar! Spar!! Spar!!! Sharpen those reflexes and train those movements to occur naturally.

I'm planning on learning one or more of these in the future: Kali, JKD,
Brazilian Jiu-jitsu, Muay Thai, San Shou, Tae Kwon Do or Chun Kuk Do

Former Judo/Kung Fu/Karate-ist Monday, May 06, 2002 at 17:26:41 (PDT)

i guess you're more expeirienced then most. I see your piont thanks for the paper tip. But for my body type TKD isnt that effective for me.
lh Monday, May 06, 2002 at 16:47:45 (PDT)

chinalova:

i posted this before on another Goldsea board, kung fu has been traced by martial arts historians back to ancient Greece. Alexander the Greats troops brought a modification of wrestling and kickboxing ( some people call it Pankration) to India when he expanded the empire, from there it was brought to China thru India.
History 101 Monday, May 06, 2002 at 10:34:43 (PDT)

Hi Ki,

I have been taking Aikido for about 7 months. I enjoy it alot. I am in my 30's, and when I was in my teenage years, I took TKD. I believe that a striking art such as TKD, JKD, Karate, etc., goes well with a grappling art such as Aikido, Judo, Jujitsu, etc.

Someone here mentioned that Aikido takes long time to learn: I agree with the person. I also agree that Aikido is a defensive art. Having said that, in a confrontation, there involves offensive and defensive moves. By knowing striking and grappling techniques, you have a good chance in controlling a given situation.

The "randori" you saw at an Aikido school involves few rules. (Please pardon my Japanese words if I am spelling them wrong) One major rule is that the "uke" (attackers) are not allowed to gang jump on one "nagi" (the thrower). The reason is that the nagi is there to learn how to control the given situation by applying what he/she has learned. If uke were to gang jump on the nagi, the nagi could not learn the techniques correctly. Now, this does not mean that uke are attacking the nagi in an orderly fashion. Uke attack the nagi whenever he/she wants to attack. Instead of uke jumping on the nagi, the uke attack the nagi from any directions with strikes, or grabs from behind/front or left/right of the nagi. Consequently, as uke attack the nagi, the nagi must make decisions on the fly and must control the incoming attacks with the techniques he/she has learned. More proficient nagi has better control of the given situation. I have tried it and it was not easy. It is a very challenging exercise.

If the nagi really want to hurt the uke, the techiques in Aikido can cripple the uke badly; however, due to many joint locks and throws, too much force is not allowed since everyone is there to learn and to show up for many more days.

The "randori" exercise does not simulate the real world situations. It is an exercise for a person to learn to control and to apply the techniques correctly; also, the exercise helps to find out about the person's strong points and weak points. As a matter of fact, in any martial arts school, if real attacks and real defensive moves were used, those schools would have no more practitioners. They would be studying alternative medicine instead of martial arts.

There are many types of Aikido schools. Based on what I know, some schools practice soft type of Aikido and some schools practice hard type of Aikido. (Soft and hard imply the amount of resistance and strength uke are allowed to use against a nagi) I am a student of Kokikai Aikido. It is considered as a hard Aikido. Well, I find Aikido very scientific (lot to do with body mechanics).

Well, I believe that one should know a striking art and a grappling art in order to feel comfortable in a given situation.

Ki, whatever art you decide to practice, you have fun with it!
aikidofun Monday, May 06, 2002 at 09:32:11 (PDT)

SOG,

"Although many people think they are great fighters, its true. However not in a martial arts sense"

Can you define what you think martial arts are used for? The most modern martial arts is used in the military with guns and missles.

Marital arts are now in sports, self-dense, and military. I don't expect a SEAL to win a sanction boxing/UFC/muey thai/TKD match. Neither do I expect competitive fighters to know how to snipe, lay cover, and destroy a bridge. Total differnt kinds of martial arts.

I only get opinionated when people start projecting Hollywood martial arts on the world. As if knowing a few techniques will give you the ability to lay waste to a whole neighborhood mentality. Keeping it real as they say.

I used the term "combat effective" to play off term you and lh seem to like. In sparring they are known as "knock out" techniques. The side kick is a jab in TKD. You don't see many boxers get KO by jabs do you?
AC Dropout Monday, May 06, 2002 at 09:16:44 (PDT)

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