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PLASTIC SURGERY
(Updated Wednesday, Jan 22, 2025, 06:39:10 AM to reflect the 100 most recent valid responses.)

Assuming you are an Asian American woman, what is your attitude toward cosmetic surgery?
I would never consider undergoing it. | 42%
I might consider it in the future. | 27%
I am considering it. | 21%
I have had it performed. | 10%

Assuming you are an Asian woman willing to consider cosmetic surgery, which of the following procedures would you be most likely to consider?
Hip/thigh reduction | 4%
Breast augmentation | 33%
Reshaping the nose | 18%
Thinning the eyelids | 17%
Facelift | 8%
Removing skin irregularities | 20%

What is your attitude toward people who have had cosmetic surgery?
I have no particular feeling toward them. | 45%
I scorn them for being so vain and/or insecure. | 24%
I pity them for having the need to undergo it. | 23%
I envy them for being able to afford it. | 8%




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To hello kitty,

I know that you already apologised earlier about your racist and mean remarks of southeast asian's features, but to be frank with you, I cannot see much sincerity in your apology. Well, that is how I perceive it. Also, your negative remarks about another ethnicity may not be so serious for U but to US its a quite a BIG deal. Imagine the whole world have an access to this board.

You said that in your personal experience you have seen southeast asian women to have a flat face and chinky eyes more than the east asian women. And so, your knowledge is only base on your limited exposure to asian people. You said you live in Canada. If you will go in Asia you will know more. "Chinky eyes" IS a physical characteristic of east asian people and NOT of the southeast asians. When I refer to southeast asians, I mean the "Malays". Geographically, the vietnamese people are southeast asians, but racially they are of your kind- east asian genes. Regarding the "flat face". Flat face and Low nose bridge ARE physical characteristics of "Asian people". You cannot go generalizing southeast asian women because you have not seen all of them yet. Malay people are diverse, their genes have been mixed with many races ei. europeans and chinese. I'm talking mostly about Filipinos and Malaysians. There are malays with low nose bridge as well as high nose bridge. But this is also true with east asian people. I don't think that the percentage of high nose bridge among east asian people is higher than the percentage of people with low nose bridge. Even if the ratio of east asian women with high nose is higher than the southeast asian women, let us not foget that east asia have a larger population. So, there are "plenty" of east asian men and women with low nose bridge and flat face.

" Besides, i never said low nose bridge and flared nostrils are all that bad-looking in their own right. An alternative standard of beauty if you will", you said.

But, you are being sarcastic in your way of treating and commenting about the low nose bridge and flared nostrils of southeast asian women. I also remember that you have said that, you agree that your race have much better looks. You even put a "wink" or "smile" at the end of your mean remarks! :-)

Regarding the body. Yeah, I'm aware that you have't touched upon that areas. But, you cannot blame me for my anger when I touched upon that topic, because you are THE one who ignites all of these generalizing and wickedness. I'm not the one, excuse me.

Hello kitty, again, you cannot blame me of thinking that you are a "white wannabe" because that IS what your writings seem to reflect. I guess if you don't want peple to misinterpret you, better be more careful how you express yourself in this board. People only get what they see. Its in your hands. And no girl, I could not possibly read what's in your subconscious mind. What you want to be is not for me to really know. My pyschic ability is not that develop. I can only rely on my analyses. My accusations are only base on what I perceive in what you are saying. So be more careful of what you say. Its in your hands.

< "Yes keep this up and see if your facial features will somehow automatically metaphorphoze themselves into something that remotely resembles ours", you said.

English is not my first language so I'm not sure if I get this one right.

Is this what you mean? YOUR east asian facial features ARE better than the southeast asian's features? If this is what you mean by this, then you negate your assertions that you are not saying that s. e. asians features are bad-looking. And if my analysis is right, then you prove to me that you are a racist. Well

I will tell you one truth.
There is no "real" standard of beauty.
There si no really more beautiful or more ugly race! Each race has its own unique and special beauty. Each has its own peculiarity and there is no fair comparison of attractiveness.
Whites have become the ideal of beauty because they are the most progressive race. If blacks are the most advanced and civilized race they will be the epitome of beauty and attractiveness. Same can be said with other races whether malays, yellow, indians, latinos etc. . In other words, the notion of what is aesthetically pleasing has largely to do with the class. Its all cultural thing.

Are whites "truly" more beautiful or are we just "brainwashed" because they have a white skin which is associated with the idea of purity, and because they reign the world?
Are blacks "truly" ugly people? Have God cursed and doomed their race? Or they only become ugly in our own perception because they have black skin which is opposite to white ideal, and because they are the least advanced race? By the way, who proved that color white is good and the color black is bad? Are these perceptions have a Cosmic truth or only have a reality in our limited human thinking, in our superstitions, and our ignorance of higher truths?

Also we know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Which of the following physical and personality traits is more attractive or appealing than the others?

physical traits:

petite or medium or tall?
white or yellow or brown/tan or black?
slim or curvacious or athletic?
low nose bridge or medium or high nose bridge?
chiseled face or non-chiseled face?

personality traits:

ultra-feminine/delicate/reserved or athletic/powerful/assertive?

Can we honestly say without biases and prejudices which of the physical and personnlity traits mentioned above are better than the others?
Beauty and attractiveness is relative. It depends on the personality, culture, and taste of every individual. It solely depends on how you look at it.

One Eternal Truth that most people of this world are ignorant about is this:

All creatures of God are beautiful because we are part and parcel of Him.
There is no ugly person or race in this world. ALL ARE BEAUTIFUL.

I am NOT a real racist person I just cant stand that there are many people in this goldsea site who can be so insensitive in putting down other races for the sake of boosting their own ego and image to the world.

So there it is hello kitty. We are quits. I dont want to argue anymore. Its only shit nonsense.
Peace be with you.

It's Me    Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 21:47:21 (PST)
To icky,

Oh I'm being rude! And now I'm the racist?! HAHA Who do u think starts the stereotyping of other race? ME? Hello kitty is an immature girl who insensitively puts down other ethnicity.
So what do you think I should do? Of course, be rude to her too, isn't just FAIR to defend my own race, icky? I just answer back with the same exact meanness like she did. So now its quits. If you think about it, Im not being rude and racist at all. If you are open-minded and not one-sided you can see it. But I think you are not, because you even made your own set of racist post! You're even more rude than hello kitty ,and yeah, ME! But I think
this time I won't go down to your level. It's just a waste of time and endless fight. All I can say is be true to yourself, ICKY . Southeast asian women could not possibly undergo plastic surgery "more" than the east asian women. You know why? Its simple. Because southeast asian women are not as rich as east asian women so they cannot afford expensive cosmetic surgeries. Also, there are few good cosmetic surgeons in southeast asia. I'm aware of the fact that east asian
surgeons are experts!

P.S.Use your small analytical mind before you claim that southeast asian women are sluts. Remember, we are "multi-million" women. Did you get me?
Gather more basis in your arguments and accusations before you put yourself in
a SHAME. Peace be with you, ICKY.


It's Me    Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 21:31:30 (PST)
icky,

just like your name, it precedes you. "it's the SOUTH east asian sluts that cosmetic surgery to their faces and bodies". Okie dokie. Since when did "sluts" come into play? So only morally loose S.E. asian women get surgery? Really now.

Someone stated earlier that S.E asian women don't typically resort to surgery. I believe it's the truth since it's, sad to say, that most S.E asians can't afford surgery. They're too worried in feeding their families whatnot.

"it's the yucky cheap girls that are working "their charms" that seem to want to go under the knife more than any other..." And how would you know that? Did they come out and admit it to you?
icky the second    Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 13:47:24 (PST)
I think its sad that Asians feel that they are less than ideal and must undergo eye surgery. Instead of judging these people, the trend should be to encourage pride within the asian community as well as asian faces are beautiful. It is hard for me to say what I would do since I do have bigger eyes than most asians and not typical asian features. At least this is what I am always told" oh you don't look typically asian". That comment makes me anger since not all asians or chinese are the same. My family is northern and migrated to hong kong so we have more so called western features. bigger eyes, lighter hair and skin. My main point is insted of concerning what is so called not pretty we concentrate on our asian beauty. why go thru unnecessary surgery similar to breast implants??
Li    Friday, November 16, 2001 at 09:28:59 (PST)

I live in Canada. I guess I just happen to prefer features that are normally associated with whiteness. I will not allow my tastes to be dictated by my racial pride because that would be just as biased.


To that person who accused me of being
a Caucasian wannabe:

I see that I have touched upon a sensitive spot. Like I stated earlier, I wish to offend no one. I also realize that there are also east asian women who resort to plastic surgery to enhance their appearance but I guess what I was doing was just off-hand generalizing.
I am aware of the fact that there ARE some of us who are flat-faced and with "chinky" eyes....but like I said, from a personal experience, I claim these features to be less common in us when compared to the southeast asian women.
Besides, I never said low nose-bridge and flared nostrils are all that bad-looking in their own right. An alternative standard of beauty, if you will.

Now what's all this insult-hurling at the general population of east asin women regarding the figure. Last time I checked, I did not mention anything about tits and asses and whatnot in my previous posts. Someone sure is dishing out the venom which had obviously spilled over from a dislocated ego. Yes keep this up and see if your facial features will somehow automatically metaphorphoze themselves into something that remotely resembles ours. How intriguing the human psyche. Also you claimed that I was a white wannabe. How very fascinating. Could you please tell me more about what I subconsciously aspire to be. All heil the All-Knowing Tele-Mindreader.
Hello Kitty    Wednesday, November 14, 2001 at 22:39:35 (PST)
don't like fake big-breasted asian girls. never have and never will.
silicone free    Wednesday, November 14, 2001 at 16:56:20 (PST)
I don't think it's east asian women who do this the most --I agree with Hello Kitty that it's the SOUTH east asian sluts that do the most cosmetic surgery to their faces and bodies. Sorry, no matter how rude you want to be about Chinese eyes, it's the yucky cheap girls that are working "their charms" that seem to want to go under the knife more than any other ...
icky!    Monday, November 12, 2001 at 17:05:23 (PST)
To Hello kitty,

"usually of those asians who wish to change their facial features by plastic surgery a lot are those from southeast asia like Vietnam, Philippines, Malay..
what have you, who as a group, tend to have LOW nose bridge and somewhat flared nostrils." is what you said.

What is that idiotic propaganda?!?!
Southeast asian women (the Malay women) typically do not resort to artificial means ei. plastic surgery just to make their face and body look better!! everybody knows that you east asian women who have tht *chinky* eyes are so insecure about the way your tiny eyes look and you want a bigger eyes that all other races of women of this world have except your race! isn't that only true???? don't also deny the fact that most of you also have that low nose bridge and flat face! you are in denial!
one more thnig, east asian women are known to have that most flat unwomanly figure ei. the smallest tits and ass (malay women are not as flat as you!). so do not deny that your group of asian are the most cosmetically enhanced!!!
fake!! huh


hello kitty...a caucasian wannabe!!    Monday, November 12, 2001 at 02:23:28 (PST)
Here's how I see the traits.

Northern Asians tend to have smaller eyes, fairer skin, and more chiselled features. As I've said in an earlier post, some are at least as chiselled as those of Nordic folks.

Southern Asians tend to have larger eyes,darker skin, and broader or flatter features.

Now, remember here, I say 'TEND.' For instance, while most Nordic folk tend to be blond, chiselled, and tall and most Mediterraneans darker, broader features, and shorter, there are always exceptions. I've seen some dark Nordics and fair Italians. Similarly, I've seen Koreans with large, non-surgically enhanced eyes, and Taiwanese with very small eyes.

As far as beauty goes, there is even less real definition. Yes, chiselled features are 'IN' but that doesn't mean that all people with chiselled features are beautiful. The numbers don't always add up. Just take a look at some white celebrities--if only because the public has more exposure to them.

Marilyn Monroe, while blond, was not perfect. She was definitely not tall (at least 5'2", at most 5'5"),not leggy, and did not have the most chiselled features. Nor did she have the biggest baby blue eyes. Yet she really had pizazz. And she's still considered a stunning beauty.

Same for Audrey Hepburn, even tho' she's a little closer to what we admire in the 21st century. If you see 'Wait Until Dark,' there's a blonde with more chiselled features, larger eyes, and whose hair is much fuller and dramatic. Yet, Audrey has a much more unforgettable beauty to her. (Which is probably why I've forgotten the name of the other actress!)

Today, we would say that Nadja Aurnhammer, with her long legs, chiselled features, and large blue eyes, is seemingly closer to perfection than Kate Moss. Yet, who do we see more frequently on covers? Who has the bigger name? Yup, Kate Moss.

So my message is, yes, there are tendencies, but they say nothing about national beauty and even less about beauty itself.
Asian Dominatrix    Monday, November 05, 2001 at 15:14:25 (PST)
i agree with you bodacious azn. i don't like seeing azn girls with silicone/saline their breasts. it's UG-LEE!i know you have the right to do with your bodies as you wish but ladies, you're just fake!

my friend's sister got implants and her boobs are disgustingly deformed-looking. her breasts were far apart and I do mean, far apart. they were practically underneath her armpits. gross!!!

most azn girls are small-breasted, but hey, it's better to be natural than to put something inside your body that can cause imminent problems in the future.
100% real    Friday, November 02, 2001 at 23:25:10 (PST)

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