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SF AM,

'Jews help other Jews. Blacks help other blacks. Whites help other whites. Latinos help other Latinos. Only Asians don't help each other.'

Maybe we don't need help from our own people. Asians are the most competitive among themselves...there is always this rivalry among the different Asians, especially when it comes to the Chinese.

Perhaps this is the reason why Asians have outperform every racial group in America when it comes to test scores, jobs, and income levels. The average Asian is better off than the average Jew or White. When u are overdriven for upward mobility, and when no one there is to help u, ur success becomes unmatched.

Did anyone of u read the east coast magazine 'The Atlantic'? There was an article addressing a complaint by some Jewish American that Asians are taking over elite universities, and no other group are 'overrepresented' except us.

And the discrimination against AMs,

Yes, AMs are the most disliked people in the big cities. There is definately a bias when it comes to AMs and AFs. AMs are perceived as threatening, cunning, competitive...and AFs are obliging and unassuming. These are the reasons why AFs are preferred over AMs in most work settings.
LSD Friday, October 11, 2002 at 08:51:35 (PDT) [66.212.81.229]

In response to : "The Asian applicants that I have seen while at my Bay Area law firm have been equally split between men and women. However, a greater percentage of the women have been hired than men. Moreover, a greater percentage of the women make it to their third year here.
Bay Area Lawyer"

hmmm i wonder why. perhaps those hiring are less accepting of the AM than the Asian women. That summary statement probably shows hidden discrimination against AM in the hiring practices of his/her law firm. Perhaps those firms aren't giving the AM's an equally deserved chance. I'm sure those men had equal if not better qualifications. We AM are in no way inferior to our women. And I don't mean that in a sexist way. If given equal opportunity you don't think the AM can make it to the third year as well? What implied rubbish. Perhaps the WM would be much less averse to the idea of having an AM as partner one day in their firm simply because of hidden racial prejudice no matter how much they harp on being "liberal". AF would be the exception since they may be perceived as much less of a threat by being exoticized as sexual "orientals" and by being women.
ABC Tuesday, October 01, 2002 at 02:01:41 (PDT)

Jews help other Jews. Blacks help other blacks. Whites help other whites. Latinos help other Latinos. Only Asians don't help each other.

Asians need to help each other. If you see an Asian candidate and you have the power to hire or mentor, do it. If you see a potential Asian collaborator or business partner, go for it. I am tired of Asian men and women who shun their own race.
SF AM Thursday, September 19, 2002 at 07:17:52 (PDT)

Ladies & Gentlemen and Law Professionals,

I need your help. Please answer this questions:

1.) How does a Patent agent become a Patent Lawyer? Does it require law school?

2.) And if it does require law school, is it worth it in terms of salary?

3.) Can you give me any other of your insights concerning this subject. Such as how to prepare etc.

Thank you very much your efforts are appretiated,

Computer Engineer who wants to know his options Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 23:25:18 (PDT)

C:

I have been reading your posts...and I have not yet detected your problem...

So...

It's probably not that big of a deal...

Good luck..
Larrii Kong... Tuesday, August 13, 2002 at 20:39:09 (PDT)

I'm not trying to be hard on C. Personally I feel sorry for her. What happened to her was unfair and she was left out in the cold.

C needs to realize that the world is cruel and you need to protect your interests.

C, I'm sorry if I came across too harsh. Just be more careful next time about forming personal relationships in the office and especially with your superiors. It's not worth it, believe me.
Political Observer Thursday, August 08, 2002 at 15:12:30 (PDT)

C,
Why is it that we asians (or women, in general) are always the victims. Why don't you empower yourself and make your boss fear you the way that he fears the WF workers. Are you ashamed to fight a legal battle (in that case you shouldn't have played the X-game with your boss in the first place, that just putting yourself at a disadvantage). You should always value yourself.
Madagascar Thursday, August 08, 2002 at 11:44:00 (PDT)

We should not be so rough on C. We all make mistakes (live and learn you know).
C,

Hopefully you will go on to start your own firm and return the favor by helping other aspiring asians in law out.
Multiplication is better than Division Wednesday, August 07, 2002 at 16:37:26 (PDT)

C,
you wrote
"The white women in the office also abandoned me (even though they supported the other woman). Once again, the ONLY people who helped me were Asian Americans"

May I ask very poignantly why you would expect those white women to grant you the same privileges they would grant another white woman? I see a great number of white/asian relationships. Clearly, when the whites who do embrace asians make a statement of support it's done so in public.

Problem is you expected people who you don't even know to lend you support. Those women don't give a flying leap about you. At a certain point you have to accept responsibility and not be surprised to know that you have to take care of yourself in a professional setting. I mean you and I both know that it takes a professional salary to pay off a student loan and that it takes the same type of salary to live a comfortably middle class lifestyle.

You made your own bed. You should be glad the asian americans who did stick up for you provided you support because in the real world you have to protect your own interests.
Political Observer Wednesday, August 07, 2002 at 11:35:03 (PDT)

C:

"You really see people's true nature and what they really think when adversity comes."

True enough. However, you still are a disgrace to Asians because of what you did. No amount of self-discovery can make up for the fact that it is because of Asian women like you, that Asian women get the "Oriental Whore" label.

Fact is that you dated your boss, and most likely you thought it was so cool when you did. Additionally, most likely you acted like your poo don't stink to the other Asians, hence their alienation.

You deserve everything that happened to you, and more. We don't need people like you, who are willing to sleep around to get ahead. It just makes the rest of us look even worse.
Asian Femme Lawyer Tuesday, August 06, 2002 at 17:43:20 (PDT)

I disagree. Race had ALOT to do with it. I wasn't the only one dating a partner whose relationship fell apart, but my result was far worse.

The other white male partners were afraid to gang up against that white woman, becuase they were afraid that she would sue or do something. For me, they all supprted my former boss. They spread rumors that I was an Asian sex crazed woman and that I had lured him into my "Oriental web." The white women in the office also abandoned me (even though they supported the other woman). Once again, the ONLY people who helped me were Asian Americans. Now don't tell me race had anything to do with that! I'm sick of people theorizing without expereiencing it themselves. You really see people's true nature and what they really think when adversity comes.
C Tuesday, August 06, 2002 at 15:34:07 (PDT)

Political Observer:

"I absolutely agree that one should not flirt or date your boss. There is not a piece of ass out there worth your job, let alone one's career. The thrill may be good for a while but once the thrill is gone you are in big trouble."

hahaha...Amen to that, brother....hahaha

You're preaching some good down home country gospel.

Seriously though, I had a work place relationship that almost involved my boss. Now that can get REALLY messy. My co-worker and I were sharing some personal information and come to find out the boss was making moves on my co-worker, too. It got ugly but we both agreed to keep it professional and we no longer see each other at all. The only contact we now have is occassional eye-rolling.

Anyway, come to find out my co-worker is a real bitch so it was never really worth the trouble after all.
Geoff DB GeoffDB02@aol.com Sunday, August 04, 2002 at 11:26:39 (PDT)

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