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PROFESSIONAL PRESTIGE & FULFILLMENT
(Updated Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008, 05:10:04 PM to reflect the 100 most recent valid responses.)

Which of the following professions generally enjoys the most prestige among Asian Americans?
Doctor | 42%
Corporate Executive | 17%
Lawyer | 26%
IT Engineer | 10%
Investment Broker | 5%

Which of the following professions produces the least fulfillment for AA?
Doctor | 15%
Corporate Executive | 23%
Lawyer | 24%
IT Engineer | 18%
Investment Broker | 20%

Which of the following would be your dream career?
Pop Star | 13%
Novelist | 24%
Film Director | 12%
Sports Star | 27%
Actor | 24%


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Asian Dominatrix

Re: "BSE in the US" (BSE = Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, turns a cows brain into Swiss cheese)

The human form is Creutzfeld-Jacobs Disease which is 'misdiagnosed' as Alzheimer's about 14% of the time. Notice how much we've been hearing about Alzheimer's the last few years? The first few months of this year you couldn't look at the national news without hearing that Mad Cow Disease wasn't in the U.S. Did you wonder why the media was reporting this almost everyday or every time they told us what was going on in Europe?

There's plenty of reason for you to start worrying again!!!!

The following is from http://www.drday.com/madcow.htm

Would the government REALLY LIE to us?

What is the evidence for a cover-up in Mad Cow Disease?

1. As of Jan 6, 2001, the Centers for Disease Control, a government Public Health organization, published on their web site: "BSE has not been shown to exist in the United States." "According to the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Services of the United States Dapartment of Agriculture, BSE has NOT been detected in the United States, despite active surveillance efforts for several years." However, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) DOES NOT actively monitor the disease!

The REAL truth is: "A year before BSE was even reported in Britain in 1985, Richard Marsh, Chairman of the Department of Veterinary Science at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, was alerting dairy practitioners of the possibility that a "previously unrecognized scrapie-like disease in cattle" existed in the United States. The clue came in 1981 when "Mad Mink Disease" wiped out a population of minks in Wisconsin who hadn't eaten any sheep at all. The meat portion of their diet consisted almost exclusively of dairy cattle called "Downers," an industry term describing cows which collapse for unknown reasons and are too sick to stand up.

BUT - the beef industry claims that "Downer Cows" DO NOT have Mad Cow Disease! YET - when these Downer Cows were ground up and fed to mink - the mink DEVELOPED "Mad Mink Disease!"

In June 1992, a USDA consultant group decided that changes in the research program to accommodate the possibiity that BSE was already present in the U.S. were, "not appropriate at this time." The panel that made this decision included representatives of the National Milk Producers Federation, the National Renderers Association, the American Sheep Industry Association and the National Cattlemen's Association.

(By the way, Beef is the largest revenue source for American agriculture nationwide. It is a $150 billion dollar industry. Since the FDA protects the pharmaceutical industry, the very industry that it's supposed to police, why wouldn't the USDA (U.S. Dept of Agriculture) protect the Beef and Sheep Industry, even though the USDA is supposed to CONTROL it?)

According to the USDA, "virtually all U.S. feed manufacturers use meat and bone meal in their feeds" and most U.S. cattle are fed such rendered animal tissues. In 1989 alone the U.S. rendered two million tons of cattle for use primarily in animal feed and pet food. There has been a substantial increase in the use of animal protein in commercial dairy feed since 1987.

Dr. Gibbs, who recently chaired a World Health Organization investigation into the disease says "Do I believe BSE is here in the U.S., of course I do," Gibbs made this admission at a University of Wisconsin symposium.

With more than two decades of prion research behind him, Dr. Stanely Prusiner, the scientist who coined the term "prion" and received the Nobel Prize for his work, agrees that Mad Cow Disease MUST be present in the U.S."

In late 1978, Dr. Masuo Doi, a veterinarian with the Food Safety and Quality Service, studied a disorder in some young hogs that had arrived at a Packing Plant in Albany, N.Y. from several Midwestern states. The USDA's pathologist reported that the damage in the pig's brain was similar to the damage observed in the brains of sheep afflicted with scrapie, essentially the same disease as Mad Cow Disease (BSE) in cows.

Finally, the FDA drafted a rule that would ban the fortifying of animal feeds with "any Mammalian tissue." However, the FDA has played a taxonomical shell game by ARBITRARILY REMOVING PIGS FROM THE CLASS OF "MAMMALIA." They declared that a pig is NOT a mammal!

A single teaspoon of ingested high infectivity meat and bone meal is thought to be enough to cause BSE in a cow.

"One hundred thousand cows per year in the United States are fine at night, but dead in the morning. The majority of those cows are rounded up, ground up, fed back to other cows. If only one of them has Mad Cow disease, it has the potential to infect thousands." says Howard Lyman, Cattle Rancher for 40 years.

Mad Cow Risks were First Reported in the United States in 1976!!

"Health experts...knew of the potential dangers of contaminated human growth hormone years before the first Creutzfeldt-Jakob death occurred and experimental programs halted, British court documents reveal. Correspondence dating from the mid- '70s presented to a British judicial inquiry reveal a paper trail betwen the United States National Institutes of Health and the British Government indicating the infectiousness was foreseen," the Los Angeles Times reports.

"Moreover, a safer method for purifying human growth hormone drugs had long been available, but scientists involved in the experiments had ignored it in favor of a cheaper, less labor-intensive option."

In 1989 alone almost 800 million pounds of processed animals were fed to beef and dairy cattle in the U.S.. The USDA has conceded that "the potential risk of amplification of the BSE agent is much greater in the United States" than in Britain.

In 1995 five million tons of processed slaughterhouse leftovers were sold for animal feed in the United States.

Rendering is a $2.4 billion-a-year industry. "There is simply no such thing in America as an animal too ravaged by disease, too cancerous, or too putrid to be welcomed by the embracing arms of the renderer. In addition to diseased farm animals, the city of Los Angeles sends some two hundred tons of euthanized cats and dogs to a rendering plant every month. Added to the blend are the euthanized catch of animal control agencies and roadkill " according to Howard Lyman, a cattle rancher for 40 years. This is the food fed to the animals that YOU EAT!

In the U.S. the rendering industry promised to stop feeding sheep brains to cows years ago; the FDA confirmed that this ban failed.

Unfortunately just about everybody lies. "British government officials misled the public for years over the dangers of British beef and the risk of "mad cow" (BSE) disease spreading to humans," according to Reuters wire service.

"UK Physicians Told Not to Tell Hemophilia Patients of Possible CJD Blood Concerns."

"Mad Cow - BSE- CJD Now Likely to Be a Global Infection" according to New Scientist journal.

BSE has infected a dozen species of animals which presumably ate infected tissue.

Vegan!!!    Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 01:57:40 (PDT)
Whoever wants to pursue a career in architecture have got rocks in their head. The pay is lousy (even in america), the hours are long and it takes atleast 5 years to gain a degree, and the course is hard. Architecture sounds prestigious and noble but its the pits. I don't enjoy as much now as what i did initially.
and its damn frustrating to see tradespeople on the job getting paid more than you.

Trust me.
Architecture graduate.
University of Melbourne, Australia
ray ehy@start.com.au    Monday, September 24, 2001 at 00:47:53 (PDT)
MLK,

I found what you said about racism and sexism quite interesting.

So far, in the US and UK, I've noticed that my most positive--and most negative--experiences have been with women. And so far, they've all been white. The ones who were the most helpful, even indulgently so, were usually at least 15 years older than me and surprise, surprise, didn't have daughters so that they probably looked upon me as a surrogate daughter of sorts. But even then, it's sometimes difficult. There are quite a few out there who will bang on about sexism, but deny racism--merely because they'd never experienced it. (White American women are less offensive in this respect in saying 'perhaps' since they are, for better or worse, more politically correct.)

There's a lot of ass-kissing in academia too. Can't get away from it anywhere. I attend your conference, you attend mine. I accept one of your students/articles, you accept one of mine. OK, maybe it's not that crude, but in the end, that's what it all boils down to.

Hmmmm...maybe that's why shows like Survivor and songs about surviving ('I will survive', 'I'm a survivor' do so well.) And maybe the reason why the latter have been covered by minority women like Gloria Gaynor and Destiny's Child.

And this is why we need nice rich hamburgers and steaks! (Such a relief to not worry about BSE in the US...)

Asian Dominatrix    Tuesday, August 21, 2001 at 13:32:52 (PDT)
Asian Dominatrix
Sorry about the "trap" part. I wasn't really thinking of it in that aspect on your end, just on mine, and it's really hard to go back and adjust or edit on a board like this. I must apologize and state for the record that I don't consider the Education profession to be a trap, just the fact that once I went that far in my education, it would have been hard to change tracks and diverge from the path I'm heading towards. :)

And yes, your experience with the business world is very real. Subtle (and outright) discrimination continues to happen, even in a cosmopolitan high-tech area like Silicon Valley where whites are outnumbered by the "majority-minority". For the most part, the minority white group still holds the most prestigious and powerful positions while the rest of us jostle in an unorganized line for the mid-level and upper-mid level positions. I couldn't begin to tell you how many times I've been pushed from a deserved promotion in favor of a white male (for some reason, it's always a white male since I have a good track record of getting promotions when I go up against a female of any race, and so, I am begining to think it's not so much racism as sexism).

Anyway, there is a growing trend of Asian-subsidized and Asian-owned companies that will allow Asians (and Females too!) to rise to higher ranks. But you have to work like a dog to get there and then you still have to kiss-ass like crazy to keep your job (by that I mean being diplomatic and sooo sweet and nice to your mean co-workers, bosses, clients, customers, etc.).

I hate office politics. I wish I had rich parents and didn't have to work for a living. Still, I guess I can't complain. It could have been so much worse. I could have been in a third-world country selling sandwiches on the street to survive. Instead, I am here in the US, getting fat on hamburgers and complaining about having to be nice to my boss.
MLK    Thursday, August 16, 2001 at 13:38:52 (PDT)
MLK:

It looks like we both avoided each other's profession (or rather, education), assuming that both would prove to be traps!

I think it's super that you've gone into the business world and that it's working out for you. You see, I once worked at blue-chip co., International Business...and the now defunct 1st Chicago bank (granted, as a temp). For the most part, I got treated fine but couldn't help feeling disgruntled by finding nothing except whites being put in the most prestigious and high-salaried positions, whites acknowledging one another, whites socialising with themselves--unless, of course, when some obligatory odd guy with the Asian fetish happened to be interested! Now, this was in the conservative midwest and in 1993, so hopefully, things will have changed a bit by now...(I'm feeling a bit like Rip van Winkle having visited the States only for a few weeks or even days at a time the last 7 years.)

Liked your story about your former BF. I've just recently heard from one of my cousins that it's harder for an Asian male from a famous law school to get a foot in the firm than a local white boy attending a so-so local law school...I guess this is why there are so many disgruntled Asian law students.


Asian Dominatrix    Sunday, August 12, 2001 at 17:46:53 (PDT)

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