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ASIAN LIFE IN SAN FRANCISCO
(Updated Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008, 05:09:30 PM to reflect the 100 most recent valid responses.)

What's the worst thing about living in the San Francisco Bay area?
No Summer Weather | 12%
Perpetual Gridlock | 40%
Too Crowded with Asians | 1%
Shortage of Decent Housing | 47%

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We are all descendants of the Tang,

Thanks for the info dude..!

Where do the Tanka (boat people) and the Hoklos fit into the scenario?

Yeah, I always hear battles between the Toi Sans and the Hakkas...where do people like the Chiu Jaus fit in? From what I have read, the Chiu Jaus were bolder and more aggressive than the Toi Sans or the Hakkas. They were addicted to the drug trade, in fact, Chiu Jaus competed with the British during the drug wars. The ferocity of the Chiu Jaus is still felt today in HK and overseas!

Hey, just one last thing...could you clarify further the connection between the Taiping incident and the drug wars?
LSD Thursday, August 22, 2002 at 06:55:48 (PDT)

AC:

Children of the Dragon? WTF is that? haha

I see some Chinese shows on TV. They do look like they are getting better. Then again, anything would be an improvement.

Oh yeah. I am so sick of those imperial court and classical stories. Those are just a snooze!

Do you think they will ever catch up to HK and Taiwan as far as pop culture goes though? I don't think China is nearly as hip, and has a long ways to go.

Hey, have you watched that Meteor Garden thing from Taiwan? I know it's kind of fruity, but it's actually pretty fun to watch. It's based on some Japanese manga.
TSJ Eric@KristinKreuk.net Thursday, August 22, 2002 at 01:09:28 (PDT)

LSD:

Wow, that's some fascinating stuff. I never realized how many groups comprised of what we consider Cantonese. I didn't really care much before I checked out what people had to say on this site, and now, I must say, I am really intrigued. I used to think that Toi Sans were the most prevalent Cantonese group, and everyone else was just some small hick tribe or something.

Anyways, I guess I was wrong. Who would have thought though, that all these groups who live so close to each other can be so different? They are all part of the Guangdong province, yet they seem like they are so distant culturally.

Unfortunately, we won't be going to HK after all. My parents decided that a couple more days in Shanghai would be nicer. HK is home (well not my home, but theirs), so we can go there some other time. So, we will be hitting Beijing, Suzhou, Shanghai, and a bunch of places in between, all in ten days.

That museum you mentioned sounds fascinating. Do people in HK actually make the distinction between the groups though? I never noticed that they really cared. That's why HK is cool. All Chinese groups can get along.

Hey, now that we mentioned all these Chinese groups immigrating to America, I just noticed that there are a lot of Shanghainese and Indonesian Chinese coming to the Bay Area. I guess I was wrong in saying that there wasn't anything besides Toi San, HK, and Taiwanese here. I just never paid attention.

Shanghainese girls have a distinct look. They look unlike HK or Taiwanese girls. Their language is super funky as well, like a cross between Korean and Vietnamese, but they can speak regular Mandarin, so that's cool. I don't know where people got the idea that they are super fine because they look pretty average to me. I find the everyday HK or Taiwanese girl to be far more appealing.

With the turmoil in Indonesia, a lot of the rich Chinese there are fleeing. One of the developments I work at has sold three units to Indonesian Chinese families. Their language is a mixture of native Indonesian and some Chinese dialect (probably watered down over the years). Most of them claim Hakka ancestry. Their last names are all Indonesianized because the government there does not allow Chinese surnames.
TSJ Eric@KristinKreuk.net Thursday, August 22, 2002 at 00:55:44 (PDT)

LSD,

From what I know, the Toisan (and other Cantonese) resented the British and the drug trade, and they have always resented the distant rulers in northern China (Manchus). So, when the Taiping Christian rebellion (led by a Hakka) swept through all of southern China, the Toisan and Cantonese immediately joined the side of the rebels. The Hakkas did not get involved or some of them joined the imperial authorities (Manchus) and the British. After the Taiping Rebellion was put down, the Hakkas took the opportunity and battled against both Toisan and Cantonese for land. A bloody decades long wars were fought. There was much devastation, so many Toisan and Hakkas had to immigrate. It is always for land and livelihood that people fought each other. But, such attitudes have long died out now in China and the overseas community. I think the universal speaking of Mandarin will totally eradicate the distinctions in the near future.
we are all descendants of Tang Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 00:29:25 (PDT)

TSJ,

My bad I got that movie confused with "Children of the Dragon," or at least the Girls confused.

Shanghai is not making movies. But I do know the quality of China TV drama are improving.

I was watching some pretty weird stuff. They have soap opera with extra-marital affair, divorces, scandals, Inter-racial marriages...it come a long way from just plain classical stories, or imperial courts long ago.

Their not as crazy as the Japanese in the topic. But China is slowly openning up its media.
AC Dropout Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 15:54:35 (PDT)

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