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Indo-British,

I should probably clarify that I was referring to East Asians (i.e., Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, etc.); I guess since I assume that most of the people frequenting Goldsea are Americans, I tend to use "Asian" in the American sense to refer to "Orientals" (yes, I hate that word)in Britspeak.

In general, my impression of Britain is that yes, there IS racial tension, and that the tensions between Brits, Indians, Pakistanis and the Afro-Carribean community are truly deplorable. But we need to bear in mind too that there are also high nationalist tensions between whites as well: it seems like the English, the Scots, and the Irish don't get along all that smoothly either. There are countless stories of (white) English people who move up to Scotland only to be bullied mercilessly with "Go home, you dirty English" scrawled on their garage. Or Irish folks being refused service at an English pub. Or a Russian getting beat up because he was assumed to be German. In fact, I've noticed on some British Chinese websites many comments to the effect that there is a tendency to discriminate more by nationality than by race.

Whereas in America, no one cares if you're German-, Irish-, Italian-American: you're white and that's enough. You're not going to get beat up and have your house vandalized because of it in the twenty-first century.

I guess what I mean to say is that, in a British context, I don't feel (East) Asians to be as especially singled out for racism like they are in the US. But this, of course, is not the same thing as saying that I would prefer to live in Britain. For instance, while I enjoyed Northern Ireland a lot, where I found people to be the friendliest in Europe, I know I'd be very hesitant to live there with all the sectarian violence. Even if I'm neither Catholic nor Protestant.
Asian Dominatrix Thursday, May 23, 2002 at 09:36:58 (PDT)

Here's my 2 cents, granted, I was only a tourist, but I thought Austria was not a friendly place towards Asians.

Yes, I did see Asians in Austria, but most were either students or owned restaurants. I even ate at a Taiwanese restaurant in Vienna. However, I got the impression that I was not welcomed to stay too long in that country.

I remember visiting Schonbrunn (sp?) palace and some geek jumps out in front of me shouting "yo Japanese!" (I'm Taiwanese-American).

Then again, I was just a tourist. The country is a beautiful one, but I did not think the people were the friendliest.
Asian-American Tourist In Europe Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 21:37:06 (PDT)

"First of all, Germany is a much more hostile and racist country than the Netherlands. I don't want to label the Modern Day Germans as Nazis but some of their racist tendencies from the past still linger today. In fact, a country like Spain or Italy probably has more non-Whites than Germany."

German firms including SAP wanted well qualified individuals from India and other Asian countries to come and work in Germany. But, the German government basing its immigration policies on "blood impurity" (or tainted with non-white blood as Asin Dom would have it)refused. The result was that SAP moved its operations to Miami, where it could employ Indians and other Asian. Thus, this anti-immigration policy actually ended up creating job losses to the tune of about several thousands in Germany, in numerous industries. Actually in this global economy, anti-immigration policies result in higher unemployment than pro-immigration policies. This partly explains why US has an unemployment rate of 6% in a recession, while such an unemployment rate in Germany would be considered a miracle! One big advantage of the global economy is that bigotry by governments would be severely punished by the markets.

Economist Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 17:03:40 (PDT)

Indo-British,
I recently read a magazine article about the Indian women's beauty pageant. None of the women in the pictures looked anything like the usual Indian woman looks like. These women competing were very tall, very thin, had very pale skin, lighter hair, basically looked almost white. I always thought that the Indian standard of beauty was a woman with beautiful dark skin, big dark eyes, long black hair. It was kind of disturbing.
me Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 12:08:34 (PDT)

f**K abu sayaff The Philippine Islands have too much of an incredible culture, great people, wonderful landscape to ignore! Im going to puerto galera
afroman Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 15:38:37 (PDT)

"You made a good point. A Dom's pleasant experiences in Oxford doesn't do justice to the working class Asian experiences in Manchester, Liverpool or even London. I've met Asians who live in Manchester and Liverpool, and they tell me that bias incidents on Asians do occur FREQUENTLY!"

Most of them are from South Asia and not East Asia. Most are dark skinned and are considered black for all practical purposes or simly called "darkies". The British are not very tolerant and neither are any other whites based on my experience. In fact, even in India or Pakistan lighter skinned people get jobs in advertising and in the movies. The skin complexion makes more of a difference in women regarding job opportunited at least in India. Generally, darker skinned women are labourers and the ligher skinned are professionals.

Indo-British Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 12:07:43 (PDT)

Economist,

I was talking about institutions not companies or firms.....u know what I mean...Universities, Academia. Many researchers and professors of Asian descent are in the Netherlands. In the business arena, I would assume Dutch companies will keep their non-White workers unlike their German neighbors.

First of all, Germany is a much more hostile and racist country than the Netherlands. I don't want to label the Modern Day Germans as Nazis but some of their racist tendencies from the past still linger today. In fact, a country like Spain or Italy probably has more non-Whites than Germany.
European Anti Asian Sentiment Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 11:23:54 (PDT)

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