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ASIAN AMERICAN ISSUES
Are AA Women the Real Victims of Prejudice?
sian women get a free ride at the expense of Asian men. That's the received wisdom here in the U.S. This belief appears premised on the suspicion that American society sees Asian women as sexy exotics in need of rescuing from the cold clutches of Asian men who don't know how to smile except evilly.
The real victim?
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Credit Hollywood for its tireless casting of Asian women as sexual accessories to white heroes while suppressing the very existence of Asian men except as unsavory paper tigers. Credit too the TV networks that uncover bevies of talking Asian women but rarely their male counterparts.
In fairness this media fantasy of the Asian race was partly inspired by recent history. Devastated and impoverished Asian nations sent tens of thousands of war brides and orphans, followed by several million desperate immigrants willing to hock their identities while toiling to build new lives.
Male-dominated societies toast new women as exotic sexual prospects while suppressing new men as an exploitable lower class or even enemy aliens. The women get all the breaks and the men get all the lumps. Even worse, the women have their heads turned and adopt a scornful attitude toward their own men. So goes the complaint of some AA men.
The women have a different take. Sexual predators bearing insulting stereotypes must be fended off while coping with women who see them as unfair competitors. Add to that the pain of being scorned as sellouts by AA men for no more reason than their apparent welcome by American society. Worst of all, complain AA women, is being begrudged the right to take simple pleasure in their own identities. How much easier just to face straightforward racial prejudice!
Do Asian women really have an easier time in America? Or do they suffer from the double-whammy of insulting stereotypes from non-Asians and unfair persecution from Asian men?
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Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008, 06:10:57 PM)
Mats
>I'm sick of Asian women spouting how >much they are adored, etc., by white >guys. White men in general will ALWAYS >prefer the White woman to you. Face >it! The only males in this world who >truly put you on a pedestal are AM.
You said:
When will you learn? Playing on a woman's insecurities is no way for a man to act. White, Asian...whatever.
So just what part of the above comment is playing on AF's insecurities? The part where White men may prefer white women, or the part where AM prefer AW?
If you are AF, then I can understand your point. Insecure are you?
AM
Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 13:43:41 (PDT)
whoa... where u pplz livin'? there IS a place in the U.S. where it not all "o-white-females/males would rather take white males/females instead of asian females/males". hey! im an azn woman 2 and ive been adored by both whites and azns. i know u just can't stereotpe all whites... or azns for all that matter! isn't it all a matter of personal preference? you know these guyz and women you're categorizing here have individual personalities and thoughts too... some might have different preferences than that of others. Besides which, if you're so sick of "Azn women spouting about how much they are adored, etc., by white guyz" don't you think there are more asian women out there then those that you know? i think its wrong 2 stereotype your own asian race, and some of this is really sexist.
"typical" asian woman
Friday, May 31, 2002 at 20:21:33 (PDT)
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AM put us on a pedestal??? Are you kidding? Every where I go so many Asian men are criticizing, blaming and stereotyping us. Asian men are now stereotyping Asian female as conceited, materialistic, inferior to white women, and sell outs. They bash us in this website, in other websites, at school.
I don't know who you hang around with but I don't know a single Asian women who spouts they are soo accepted in this society. Even if there are, they are a minority. And in fact, it's usually Asian men who claim Asian women are "so accepted", and they say that because they don't understand.
Too many Asian men exaggerate our acceptance in this society while exaggerating their nonacceptance. Both claims are false.
And all the bashing of Asian women by our own brothers will not doubt push more Asian women away. The Asian community has become a battle ground. ANd Asian women have told me how sick they are of receiving all the blaming and criticizing. They are rethinking who really are their oppressors. While I try to explain that there are good supportive Asian men in our community and it's worth the sacrifice, it doesn't solve the problem. The bashing continues and I see that even the most loyal of Asian women will not stick around to be a punching bag. Who would.
all the fighting pushes us away
Friday, May 31, 2002 at 10:42:21 (PDT)
"Watch for this trend, because it's been happening since the 17th Century, both to our tall, handsome, sharp, and educated Asian Females and Asian Males--effectively ending our successful Asian lines in the U.S., while the White race is benefitting from our gene pool."
You sound like the Afrikaaners here in South Africa before the implementation of apartheid in 1948.
South African
Friday, May 31, 2002 at 08:40:08 (PDT)
"If they don't "date" a White guy, and you know what "date" represents, they are ostricized and destroyed by the White society."
I dont think so. Actually my experience has been just the reverse. My white exs sister and mother were not too warm to the fact that they may get a dark skinned Asian sister in law or daughter in law. They kept telling me about some Asian boys they knew, hoping I would break up with their son, which I eventually did! They were of the view that a non-white female would not look good on the family. One of my ex's sisters married a Hispanic from Uruguay...but he is white for all practical purposes albeit on an affirmitive action fellowship at the University of Arizona.
Not all whites are accepting of an Asian woman in their family
Friday, May 31, 2002 at 08:37:58 (PDT)
"don't mean to labour a point but you seem to have a chip on your shoulder about lack of asian representation in the media.....i gotta fall back on some old cliches but it would seem to come with the territory (of being a minority)....if you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen."
Of being a minority...well, may be the whites who complain about Affirmitive Action or too many Asians in UCLA and Berkely should get out of California. It is the whites who have chip on the shoulders and have reputation of distorting the reality. Being in the majority does not give one the right to lie. Portraying AA women as what they are not is a lie.
"If Asian Americans get a role in producing Asian films".....what is stopping them except the realities of the marketplace"
More likely the good old boy's network, not very different from some of the incompetent government organizations that have been in the news lately.
"you might need a few lessons in the simple economics of supply and demand"
I already have. That is why I said, "but, it probably would not sell, because there are many whites who would not watch anything that does not cater to their prejudices."
You need to read what I said and also learn some geography (based on your other posts)...does not take too long to figure out whether Minnesota is near Toronto or not! I can get it on the internet.
Researcher
Friday, May 31, 2002 at 08:31:44 (PDT)
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