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ASIAN AMERICAN ISSUES
Are AA Women the Real Victims of Prejudice?
sian women get a free ride at the expense of Asian men. That's the received wisdom here in the U.S. This belief appears premised on the suspicion that American society sees Asian women as sexy exotics in need of rescuing from the cold clutches of Asian men who don't know how to smile except evilly.
The real victim?
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Credit Hollywood for its tireless casting of Asian women as sexual accessories to white heroes while suppressing the very existence of Asian men except as unsavory paper tigers. Credit too the TV networks that uncover bevies of talking Asian women but rarely their male counterparts.
In fairness this media fantasy of the Asian race was partly inspired by recent history. Devastated and impoverished Asian nations sent tens of thousands of war brides and orphans, followed by several million desperate immigrants willing to hock their identities while toiling to build new lives.
Male-dominated societies toast new women as exotic sexual prospects while suppressing new men as an exploitable lower class or even enemy aliens. The women get all the breaks and the men get all the lumps. Even worse, the women have their heads turned and adopt a scornful attitude toward their own men. So goes the complaint of some AA men.
The women have a different take. Sexual predators bearing insulting stereotypes must be fended off while coping with women who see them as unfair competitors. Add to that the pain of being scorned as sellouts by AA men for no more reason than their apparent welcome by American society. Worst of all, complain AA women, is being begrudged the right to take simple pleasure in their own identities. How much easier just to face straightforward racial prejudice!
Do Asian women really have an easier time in America? Or do they suffer from the double-whammy of insulting stereotypes from non-Asians and unfair persecution from Asian men?
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Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008, 06:10:40 PM)
Pride Guy,
I know 5ft8 isn't tall, it's more like average (atleast where I live).
No, I believe most WFs won't make the first move because they think we're all faithful to AFs. It is somewhat true about AM though, atleast myself anyway. A girl would have to make it fairly clear that she sees you different than other guys, then I'd make the first move. Not obvious like grabbing your crotch, but if she talks the same way to all guys, it's hard to get a guage on things. I'm not into (I think most AM are the same) playing the probablity game where you ask enough times and eventually you get a hit, regardless of how desperate you look.
Anyway, consider the topic sleeping 6ft under.
huu76
Friday, September 06, 2002 at 18:25:52 (PDT)
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"truth":
"in any given race, the women tend to have lighter complexions than the men":
this is observable. But since there are so many "light"-skinned AFs I don't see the problem for AFs in general.
"nordic Whites are universally recognized as the most attractive humans":
this is untrue. Though some of these people have indeed a "good shape" your statistics must be manipulated. White-skinned people are only "attractive" because they look exotic. Many people consider a pale skin colour as a sign of lack of vitality, even the whites themselves.
rare stuff
Thursday, September 05, 2002 at 14:42:17 (PDT)
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Agreed,
let's drop the topic...I have a full time job as well ya know!
It seemed like the only people who responded were non-AF's anyway. Maybe a link on the front page like "Are AF's built like pre-teens?" or "Asiaphile or paedophile - you be the judge" would have attracted more attention and given the scholarly and well thought out arguments (on both sides!) the consideration they deserve.
maxdacat
Tuesday, September 03, 2002 at 09:11:23 (PDT)
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FACT: The January l986 issue of the journal of Ethnic and Racial Studies, "Skin Color Preference, Sexual Dimorphism and Sexual Selection: a case of Gene-Culture Co-evolution?" by Peter Frost and Pierre Van der Herghe, stated that in any given race, the women tend to have lighter complexions than the men. Using standard ethnographic files from 51 societies on five continents which have recorded their preference for human skin color, the study found that 30 preferred lighter women and 14 preferred lighter women and lighter men. The cultures of India, China, Brazil and Bali, as well as the Arabs and Negroes regard the lightest women as the most beautiful. --perpetuating the aesthetic appeal of the ivory-skinned, rosy-cheeked, blue-eyed, blond "nordic ideal" of feminine beauty- -even though they themselves do not possess the genetic capacity to reproduce such an organism. Over time, the study said, the upper classes of all races have become lighter-skinned than their fellow countrymen because they have repeatedly skimmed off fairer women from the lower classes
FACT: Scientific research on what constitutes human beauty, in which 300 judges of various backgrounds were shown portrait photographs and asked to rate the beauty of the individual's face, has revealed that nordic Whites are universally recognized as the most attractive humans, even by Blacks. The judges were instructed to evaluate the faces solely on his or her "personal standards of beauty and not to consider popular norms.
truth
Monday, September 02, 2002 at 12:39:27 (PDT)
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huu76,
I appreciate you here n all, but let's give this topic a rest. I think it is pretty old now. I've said more than enough and it's time for me to shut up. I hope I didn't insult anybody with my post. I appoligize to those that are insulted, you included.
I was only here b/c I saw maxcadat's post and thought she was an AF dissing on AM. One thing led to another and it is why i'm still here.
Lastly-Thanks for the info, appreciated. I'm giving it a rest now!! peace-out.
Azn-Pride
Sunday, September 01, 2002 at 23:03:50 (PDT)
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huu dude,
Yes, you don't think i know that, lol. Gosh, I know more then you THINK!!! I wouldn't call most AF size of kid though. That's messup to say, b/c what if i call you a little kid. You being 5 "8" is not TAll, a 13 year old can be taller than that and plus your not heavy so this makes you look more like a 12 year old. Btw, when i see AF with WM they don't look like pedophiles to me.
And "no", mine [Af] aren't on steriod. They are on vitamin and protein shake. Maybe you should try some too. I don't know about childbirth problem, they have been doing it for century and many times too. I hope you know what i'm talking about..
"Good catch on your 2nd last point (kind or ironic). I disagree with the WF don't want AM comment. It seems most simply aren't into making the first move."
o0o really, Well I hope your right. B/c from what i see, I kinda agree with what courious1 wrote, it is why i have it down. But that's good at how you see it, I like that. But i think this you wrote about AM and
I quote,
"most simply aren't into making the first move", is just an excuse. If you can prove me wrong then great. You kinda contradict yourself from what you wrote here and your post awhile ago. Here is what you wrote and again
I quote,[from you],
"I think WF's get even by dating
[here is my point, contradicting yourself] BM's [why you say this, don't ans, i know. which indicated courious was right]. BF are beautiful, I seen some myself[It's the BF's who get royally screwed. Not only are there less (much less) bm's to begin with, but what's left is getting picked off by N.America's standard of beauty."] with all respect but All this is garbage in between the bracket.
So much about AM/WF and AM/BF [I mean it is fine if you fine non-AF attractive] relationship and your excuse of AM not appoarching wf. LoL. And your right I do have some typo b/c I was in a hurry for a basketball game. Anyway LET'S DROP THE TOPIC, I need some rest now. Thanks for sharing though. Hope you have fun in sea world and be careful with the sharks [they don't bite, at least i hope not], if you can get my drift.
Azn-Pride
Sunday, September 01, 2002 at 14:03:14 (PDT)
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