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San Diego: Asian American Boomtown?
an Diego doesn't have much of an Asian American history. That could be one reason it may have the brightest future of any Asian American city.
Between 1992 and 2002 the area's Asian American population jumped a spectacular 44%. Its current AA population of 360,000 -- the nation's 10th largest -- is only 12% of the 3,000,000 in the San Diego metro area, but the growth trajectory remains strong due to a steady influx of Asians drawn to the area's paradisial climate and growth potential.
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The area's emerging prominence as the nation's biotech capitol promises to be an growth engine and a powerful magnet for ambitious young Asian Americans. La Jolla, the city's ritziest neighborhood, is home to talent incubators like the Scripps Research Institute, the nation's biggest private research organization. La Jolla is also home to UC San Diego, a top bio engineering power. It doubled its Asian enrollment from 22% of undergraduates in 1991 to 43% in 2002, nearly equal to Whites (44%). The balance is tilting toward Asians. The 2001 freshmen class is 46.5% Asian and 42% White.
The area is also attracting a disproportionate share of other growth industries like software, communications, defense and entertainment, accelerating the escalation of housing prices, not to mention its traffic congestion.
Perhaps because of its blue-sky economic climate and white-collar demographics, San Diego seems to have been hospitable to Asian success. A Corean American architect named C. W. Kim designed several prominent features of its sparkling seaside skyline, including the Emerald Plaza, the Marriott and the First National Bank building.
The city's first Asian success story was Ah Quin, a Chinese immigrant who made a name as a merchant and labor broker during the 1880s when only a few hundred mostly male Chinese made up the city's entire Asian population. Many of those early settlers came to dominate a thriving fishing industry that supplied not only San Diego but Chinese communities on both sides of the Pacific. Today all that remains to commemorate that first small wave of Asian immigrants is the Chinese Museum near Marina Park in the Gaslamp District.
The majority of Asian San Diegans arrived with the wave that began in the late 1960s. Today the city's Asian presence is most visible in the Convoy area located in a triangle formed by the I-805 to the west and Highways 52 and 163 respectively to the north and east. Convoy, Clairemont Mesa Blvd and other streets are lined with Vietnamese, Chinese, Corean, Japanese and Thai eateries, markets, pearl tea shops and business offices. Making up nearly a third of the area's Asians, and its fastest-growing Asian population, Vietnamese have established visible commercial stretches as well in the El Cajon and Mira Mesa districts.
Is San Diego an Asian American boomtown in the making? Or is it destined to become just another L.A. South?
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Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008, 05:56:52 PM)
mp boy said
have you ever been to the san gabriel valley?
response
yes.
mp boy said
if you have, then you would know it's the chinese part of town. end of argument.
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not the end of argument. san gabriel extends from where to where? pasadena? montebello? city of industry? pomona? west covina? san marino? whittier? are these cities in the sgv? are they the "chinese" part of town? f** la never did say where he or she said these incidents occured in the sgv now did s/he?
mp boy said
.accept the fact that you are wrong and stop pushing your weak position.
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it is impossible to "accept a fact" whose "fact" has yet to be proven. simple as that.
now, you may say it is the end of the argument.
san diegan
friday, august 16, 2002 at 10:56:04 (pdt)
tsj said
if you don't go there, where do you run into chinese people speaking to you in chinese, which in turn allows you to bust at your little charlie chan accent? so, maybe it isn't san gabriel, but it is some place where chinese people live.
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yes it is.
tsj said
omg!!! you have got to be kidding me. you just write stuff like this just for the sake of arguing back. obviously, you know what people are referring to. not everything has to be explained in exact detail. you are just trying to be a wise ass. besides, san diego state doesn't even have that many chinese to begin with. and no... i don't have any stats to back it up (because heaven knows that's what your stupid comeback will ask), but i know sdsu doesn't have that large of an overall asian enrollment compared to other su's and uc's.
response:
there are many chinese in sdsu.
tsj said:
age has everything to do with it. i don't see old men on the streets going up to talk to teenagers, and actually thinking they are outsmarting them by cracking smart ass comebacks.
response:
1. then you met your very first one.
2. this is not "the streets", its a website.
tsj said
"but f*** la did not say "original chinatown" or "historic chinatown" did they? "
okay. two can play this game. i don't believe he said anything, or at least we didn't hear him say it. typed, maybe. said, no.
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rephrase. change "said" to "typed". (some have a contraption that allows then to speak and the computer types in the word, so you cannot say that f*** la actually "typed" their words either).
well, did f*** la say/type/speak/)or whatever) the fact that s/he was in "chinatown"? the answer is no.
san diegan
friday, august 16, 2002 at 10:42:35 (pdt)
If I were to hire a taxi at LAX and told them to take me to "Chinatown", will they take me to Monterey Park or Alhambra? I would guess not. The driver would ask me where in (traditional) Chinatown I wanted to go to. If I answered "Monterey Park" he would say, "Oh, that's not Chinatown".
San Diegan,
You are so ignorant. Why don't you just back off this subject since it is so painfully obvious you don't know what the heck is going on. Stop arguing just for the sake of arguing. You're not doing anything but showing how unintelligent you are to the educated people here.
The taxi driver would ask which Chinatown. If you look on the new LA maps or even tourist maps, it specifies "New Chinatown" on them. Even Yahoo Maps shows New Chinatown on its maps of LA.
He would definitely not say "Oh that's not Chinatown." You also said "I would guess not." You used the word guess because you do not have any certainty regarding that answer since you don't know anything about this area!!
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But why is it relevant when the subject at hand is why American born persons should not feel irritated when others assume them to be foreign? I could be posting from Tupelo, Mississippi and still ask the same valid question.
Dumbass!!! What a totally irrelevant response. You probably are from Tupelo, Miss judging from your lack of knowledge regarding LA and overall common sense.
Even as old as you are, don't you feel pathetic being totally embarrassed on this subject by young adults half your age? I feel sorry for you just because you've got to go through the rest of your life as yourself dumb ignorant self. Not only that, I feel sorry for your kids that they have a dad who is stubborn and stupid as you.
Why don't you go and spend time on the unappreciated ex-vet, borderline-psycho, potential internet stalker website because your personality definitely fits that profile. On top of that, I still feel sorry for you.
MP boy
Thursday, August 15, 2002 at 17:44:35 (PDT)
San Diegan,
Have you ever been to the San Gabriel Valley? If you have, then you would know it's the Chinese part of town. End of argument. Accept the fact that you are wrong and stop pushing your weak position.
MP boy
Thursday, August 15, 2002 at 10:24:35 (PDT)
"Where did I say that I go to San Gabriel Valley?"
If you don't go there, where do you run into Chinese people speaking to you in Chinese, which in turn allows you to bust at your little Charlie Chan accent? So, maybe it isn't San Gabriel, but it is some place where Chinese people live.
"If Chinatown is anywhere Chinese congregate, then the Asian Students Union at San Diego State University where "Chinese congregate" is also "Chinatown"?"
OMG!!! You have got to be kidding me. You just write stuff like this just for the sake of arguing back. Obviously, you know what people are referring to. Not everything has to be explained in exact detail. You are just trying to be a wise ass. Besides, San Diego State doesn't even have that many Chinese to begin with. And NO... I don't have any stats to back it up (because heaven knows that's what your stupid comeback will ask), but I know SDSU doesn't have that large of an overall Asian enrollment compared to other SU's and UC's.
"What does my age have to do with it? Your youthful lack of experience is glaring."
Age has everything to do with it. I don't see old men on the streets going up to talk to teenagers, and actually thinking they are outsmarting them by cracking smart ass comebacks.
"But F*** LA did not SAY "Original Chinatown" or "Historic Chinatown" did they? "
Okay. Two can play this game. I don't believe he SAID anything, or at least we didn't hear him say it. TYPED, maybe. SAID, no.
Toi San Jai
Eric@KristinKreuk.net
Thursday, August 15, 2002 at 00:45:28 (PDT)
TSJ,
1. Where did I say that I go to San Gabriel Valley?
2. If Chinatown is anywhere Chinese congregate, then the Asian Students Union at San Diego State University where "Chinese congregate" is also "Chinatown"?
3. Yes I nitpick when you presuppose your arguments on what I never claimed.
4. What does my age have to do with it? Your youthful lack of experience is glaring.
San Diegan
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 at 11:49:51 (PDT)
MP BOY SAID
FYI, San Gabriel is Chinatown. San Gabriel and the surrounding cities such as Monterey Park and Alhambra are referred to as the "New Chinatown."
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So is it "Chinatown" or "New Chinatown"? You are still vague.
MP BOY SAID
These small cities combined represents the suburban Chinatown of LA county. Have you ever driven through that area before? It's all Chinese businesses there. The original LA Chinatown is known as the Historic Chinatown. So yes, F*** LA was in fact referring to Chinatown.
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But F*** LA did not SAY "Original Chinatown" or "Historic Chinatown" did they?
If I were to hire a taxi at LAX and told them to take me to "Chinatown", will they take me to Monterey Park or Alhambra? I would guess not. The driver would ask me where in (traditional) Chinatown I wanted to go to. If I answered "Monterey Park" he would say, "Oh, that's not Chinatown".
MP BOY SAID
Get your facts straight before you post your responses.
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No. You need to get your facts straight. Did you interview F*** LA and were told for sure that that person meant the entire San Gabriel valley or the traditional Chinatown? The person said "San Gabriel Valley" with no mention of "Chinatown".
MP BOY SAID
That's why it's relevant where you live. And that explains why you don't know what you're talking about down there in San Diego. Simple as that.
RESPONSE
But why is it relevant when the subject at hand is why American born persons should not feel irritated when others assume them to be foreign? I could be posting from Tupelo, Mississippi and still ask the same valid question.
Simple as that.
San Diegan
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 at 11:45:49 (PDT)
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