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TAIWAN INDEPENDENCE
OR UNIFICATION?

(Updated Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008, 05:55:00 PM)

he most pressing Asian foreign policy issue currently faced by the U.S. is the Taiwan question. The email we receive in reaction to our articles relating to this issue suggests that it's an emotional one for many of our readers. Perhaps one reason for the emotion is the fact that the issue isn't amenable to an easy or simple solution.
     The first historical mention of Taiwan appears to have been when Portugese traders found it to be a resting place on their journey to Japan and named it Isla Formosa. Beijing's claim to Taiwan dates back to the 16th century when a Chinese general fought off the Portugese to claim the island for the emperor. In 1895 the expansion-minded Japanese annexed it after defeating China in a war on the Corean peninsula. China briefly reestablished sovereignty over Taiwan following Japan's defeat in August of 1945.
     At the time the official government of China, as recognized by most nations of the world, was under the control of the Kuomingtang headed by Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek. He was engaged in a desperate war against Mao Tse-tung's peasant army. Despite billions of dollars of aid by the U.S. based mainly on intensely partisan reporting by Henry Luce's Time/Life empire, the spectacularly corrupt Chiang lost that war and fled to Taiwan with 2.5 million followers.
     He established the present government of Taiwan on December 7, 1949 and proclaimed it the sole legitimate government of all China. Mao made the same claim. The claims competed until 1971 when it became clear to most of the world that Mao's was more persuasive. Taiwan was kicked out of the UN. The Beijing government took its place as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, a seat given in recognition of China's role in fighting Japan in World War II.
     Mired in its own misguided war in Vietnam, and intensely fearful of anything red, the U.S. was one of the last nations to recognize the legitimacy of Mao's government. In 1972 Richard Nixon made his historic journey to Beijing. In 1976 the U.S. took the next step by recognizing the People's Republic as China's sole legitimate government. It began pursuing the "One China, One Taiwan" policy under which official diplomatic contacts were exclusively with Beijing but continued to sell billions of dollars a year of fighter jets, helicopters, tanks and missiles to Taiwan to help defend against a possible Chinese effort to refunify by force.
     In 1997 President Clinton declared a "strategic partnership" with Beijing over intense Republican objections. It was an astute recognition of the fact that China's 1.2 billion people must be accorded a central place in U.S. foreign policy. But the historic, moral and economic ties that bind the U.S. to Taiwan's 23 million people stand squarely in the way of cutting off arms sales and renouncing the pact under which the U.S. obliged itself to come to Taiwan's defense in the event of attack by China. That U.S. pledge and continuing arms sales continue to inflame Beijing to periodic bursts of violent anti-U.S. rhetoric.
     Taiwan has been a domocracy since 1989 when it legalized opposition parties. It held its first democratic presidential elections in 1990. Lee Teng-hui handily won to keep the presidency which he had originally gained in 1988. Lee won again in 1996. Since 1997 he began efforts to warm up relations with Beijing by agreeing to enter into negotiations under a "One-China" framework with an eye toward eventual reunification. Beijing's leaders continued their highly successful campaign of pressuring diplomatic partners into severing ties with Taiwan. China even raised hell when Lee made a semi-surreptitious trip to New York in 1997. Since then China has scared neighborning nations like the Philippines into not allowing Lee to enter. As of 1999 Taiwan's diplomatic allies number about 18 out of about 220 nations on earth. All are tiny, impoverished Central American, African and Pacific Island nations that appreciate Taiwan's generous aid packages. Pago Pago is considered a major ally.
     Feisty Lee Teng-hui launched his own guerilla offensive in July, 1999 by declaring over German radio that Taiwan was in fact a separate state and would negotiate with Beijing on an equal footing. That sent Beijing into a tizzy. It fired off bombastic threats to take Taiwan by force and to annhilate the U.S. Navy if it intervenes. On October 18 during his British visit Chinese President Jiang Zemin assumed a softer, more relaxed tone in telling a London newspaper that China would be peacefully reunited with Taiwan under a one-nation two-systems formula by the middle of the next century. One might have expected Lee to have been relieved by that statement. Instead, he brushed it aside as "a hoax". China should try instead to set a timetable for its democratization as that was the only way to ensure reunification, sneered Lee's Mainland Affairs Council chairman Su Chi. Most polls show that a clear majority of Taiwanese prefer to maintain the status quo indefinitely rather than moving toward unification.
     Beijing's reunification mandate appears based on the idea that in winning the mainland, the Chinese people had rejected the "criminal" Kuomingtang and its right to rule any part of China. It also sees Taiwan as a galling symbol of the division wrought and preserved by western imperialists -- namely, the U.S. -- seeking to enjoy global hegemony at the expense of Chinese dignity.
     Meanwhile the U.S. remains on the hook to defend Taiwan and sell it arms though doing so keeps its relations with a quarter of humanity rocky and on edge. Under its current policy the U.S. is the asbestos firewall that keeps friction between the two sides of the Taiwan Strait from igniting into war.
     Should the U.S. continue alienating Beijing to help Taiwan protect its independence or improve relations with China by pressuring Taiwan to reunite?

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WHAT YOU SAY

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Apache,
Nothing's changed much around here. SOG's still spouting the same make-believe crap over and over again.

AC,
Hmmm, UK and USA make 2. Enlighten my hick mind will you please. Who makes 5?
Reunite peacefully or we'll conquer you by force. Sounds like the good guys picked a little something up from the Evil American Empire.

Hell, since everyone who visits is a spy (just as the USA), why should they let the Chinese visit. Why would they want to come to Taiwan, isn't China surpreme in everything. Why leave?
Are you sure it isn't the gov't preventing them from going, afraid they might like it too much and stay?

Lastly, the Americans (and Japan) have done more in the last 50 years than the rest of the world has done in the last 5000. Remember, it took 200 years for Europe to become industrialized. America did that to S. America and large chunks of Asia in about 35.
huu76    Tuesday, November 19, 2002 at 21:03:28 (PST)    [64.231.96.104]
metalchild,

I think you have it all backwards. Of the 500,000 Taiwanese living on the mainland. I don't believe all of them are of KMT affliation.

But in any event the funny irony on Taiwan is that all the DDP have total disdain for the ROC consitution, idealogy, and political reality.

However, all the elected DDP officals draw on ROC salaries and benefits of state, while spouting their disdain for the ROC.

Pres. Chen with his constant shouting matches in the Taipei Mayor KMT Ma Ying Jiu is belittling the Presidential Office. Pres. Chen harps on how unfair it was he lost the mayor office to Ma four years ago is sad.

I don't know why with political activies such as this does ROC believe they have something to teach PRC in areas of politics.
AC Dropout    Tuesday, November 19, 2002 at 13:20:37 (PST)    [24.90.98.143]
Apache

lol lol lol
SOG    Monday, November 18, 2002 at 10:02:59 (PST)    [128.193.4.98]
metalchild:

PRC = mainland China
ROC = Taiwan

China = PRC + ROC

It would have been a truly new China long time ago if the US wasn't intruding on China's goal for a peaceful reunification.
tazadar    Monday, November 18, 2002 at 09:54:50 (PST)    [63.201.59.242]
i agree with george dukes. if china wants taiwan to be part of it, it should make itself better, be nice about things, and give its people more liberty. taiwan's not going to kiss china's @ss if china's going to treaten taiwan as scat.
seems like KMT's been wanting to kiss china's @ss though. KMT might have done some good things for taiwan, but it also had killed, threatened, and restricting people of democratic progressive party.
metalchild    Sunday, November 17, 2002 at 19:42:30 (PST)    [141.213.189.27]
"Shows what you know. Or as apache driver likes to put it. Or lackthereof."

Sheesh, I go away for a while, and now SOG quotes me! :p
Apache Driver    Sunday, November 17, 2002 at 16:09:54 (PST)    [67.84.132.190]
huu76,

Depending on how you interpret the relationship of Tibet and China.

Some believe China was a figure head government in Tibet for over 700 years. Local people had their Lama as political leaders and the Chinese officials just rubber stamped everything.

But for 700 years the re-incarnated Lamas needed to be confirmed by the central government in Beijing.

How Tibet gain their independence is similar to Mongolia. After 1911 China was weak, because it overthrew the dynastic government. Not to mention close to 50 years of losing wars and pay repariation to invaders.

So the English decided to go to Tibet and help the local government declare independence around 1912. China (ROC) at that time refuse to acknowledge it, so it did not sign the treaty.

So China (ROC) is busy fighting off Japan, England, USA, Germany, France, and local Chinese warlords. Then Chinese civil war (KMT vs. Commies), then WWII (KMT+Commies vs. Japan), then back to the Chinese civil war (KMT vs. Commies).

By the time the dust settles it is 1949 and the Commies create the PRC. They learn from the error of the KMT with the war again Russia for Outer Mongolia 1925, send a decisive overwhelming force to crush the armed rebel forces in Tibet to reclaim Chinese territory.

You must understand it is not that the Chinese did not want to do anything. But it was just to preoccupied with other issues to do anything. Why? Because of foriegn invaders. Not because China was weak. But wasted alot of money and lives to fend off a coalition of 5 invading countries.

So unlike India or the Roman empire. China was never conquer as a whole nor dispeared into history.

Which brings us back to Taiwan. It is a country that is on the losing side of an ideological battle. In reality PRC is becoming more and more pluralistic and democratic than Taiwan.

Think about these facts.

1) China allows for Taiwanese to travel freely in China. Taiwan does not allow for China citizens to come to Taiwan directly at all.

2) China has learned from Taiwan how to attract foriegn investments. Taiwan is unable to attract foriegn investments.

3) China has no discriminatory policies against people born on Taiwan. Taiwan is full of discriminatory practice for people born on the mainland. They are practically on the verge of make mainlander second class citizens in Taiwan.

4) China is pro-actively trying to engage Taiwan politically and economically. If you follow Taiwan news, the current political leadership is doing everything to avoid direct engagement with the PRC. The Pres. Chen has flip flop on issues to ensure they contradict the PRC policy concerning Taiwan.

What is with your innuendos with Vietnam and China. China trained Ho Chi Min to overthrow the French colonialist. Was that bad? Are you referring to the border war of 1976? Are you referring to Taiwan suggestion to thier businessmen to invest in Vietnam instead of China?

PS - You must understand something cultural Chinese and Asian for that matter usually have a reference of 5000 years of written history to study. So 50 years is a drop in the bucket, not ancient history.
AC Dropout    Thursday, November 14, 2002 at 11:04:27 (PST)    [24.90.98.143]
AC,
I'm not too clear on this. Did China ever govern Tibet or did they just lay claim to it?
America governed the south before it "broke" off.
50 years is a long time to claim something, especilly when it's been acting as a sovereign country since, and the claimee hasn't done a thing about it.
That's like England claiming the United States still belongs to them.
Vietnam shows that China isn't as innocent as it wants to be perceived as.

Kimchi,
Actually, China used the same planes against the Japanese. Weren't too successful (you have to commend their efforts though). Better get back to the books.

SOG,
Germany, England, America, Europe. Amazingly, this is what makes up most of the "West", with the U.S. as it's most powerful member.

I also heard of a toy in China's arsenal, it's called the FU-2. It can't be shot down, requires no fuel, has a 100% kill rate, and requires no pilot, much like the USAF Predator.

Come on, how about something with a little substance. China's like the kid fresh out of college who thinks he's king of the world until industry puts him in his place.

BTW, Japan doesn't need a significant armed forces (although I bet they're better trained than China, yeah, yeah, it's impossible to be better than China), they've got the U.S. to back them up.

Who mentioned bin-laden doesn't need stealth to attack american warships?
Yeah, it's real hard to bomb a destroyer tied up in port. Let's see them try it when it's firing cruise missiles from the middle of the Arabian Sea.
huu76    Wednesday, November 13, 2002 at 16:08:29 (PST)    [64.231.107.188]
huu76,

"I don't remember Hong Kong being invaded"

You really must be a white guy pretending to be a vietnamese chinese boat person. Hello, HK was invaded by England. I don't remember China inviting a bunch of white opium drug dealers to import illegal stuff into China. Which lead to the biggest invasion by 5 nations including the USA with the "Open Door Policy."

You really are an ignorant hick in Canada.
AC Dropout    Wednesday, November 13, 2002 at 08:42:21 (PST)    [24.90.98.143]
What did most of the comments on this page have to do with Taiwan/China?

I'm saddened that so many Taiwanese are so vocal about their "separateness" from the Mainland. They need to be reminded that they have Chinese names, speak Chinese, obey and follow Chinese customs, and their ancestors were originally from China, whether it be 50 years ago or 300 years ago.

One can be proud to be Taiwanese and Chinese at the same time. They are not mutally exclusive. Many Americans are proud of the state or town that they are from, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they are also proud to be Americans in general.

I have a nagging feeling that the roots of many Taiwanese' hostility towards their connections with China has to do with prejudice. I write this from experience. My mother, born on the Mainland, but fled to Taiwan with the Nationalists, and grew up in Hong Kong, use to get mad at me when I spoke Mandarin (instead of Cantonese) because she thought people would think I was a Mainlander. I get that feeling from many people from Hong Kong and Taiwan. The Mainland has historically been viewed as poor and backward, and Hong Kongers and Taiwanese want to rellish in the fact that they've "advanced". This bothers me tremendously, and is an insult to our heritage and all the ancestors that people from both sides of the Strait worship to.
Voice of Reason    Tuesday, November 12, 2002 at 15:06:15 (PST)    [12.146.133.180]

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