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ASIAN AMERICAN ISSUES
TAIWAN INDEPENDENCE
OR UNIFICATION?
(Updated
Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008, 05:54:59 PM)
he most pressing Asian foreign policy issue currently faced by the U.S. is the Taiwan question. The email we receive in reaction to our articles relating to this issue suggests that it's an emotional one for many of our readers. Perhaps one reason for the emotion is the fact that the issue isn't amenable to an easy or simple solution.
The first historical mention of Taiwan appears to have been when Portugese traders found it to be a resting place on their journey to Japan and named it Isla Formosa. Beijing's claim to Taiwan dates back to the 16th century when a Chinese general fought off the Portugese to claim the island for the emperor. In 1895 the expansion-minded Japanese annexed it after defeating China in a war on the Corean peninsula. China briefly reestablished sovereignty over Taiwan following Japan's defeat in August of 1945.
At the time the official government of China, as recognized by most nations of the world, was under the control of the Kuomingtang headed by Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek. He was engaged in a desperate war against Mao Tse-tung's peasant army. Despite billions of dollars of aid by the U.S. based mainly on intensely partisan reporting by Henry Luce's Time/Life empire, the spectacularly corrupt Chiang lost that war and fled to Taiwan with 2.5 million followers.
He established the present government of Taiwan on December 7, 1949 and proclaimed it the sole legitimate government of all China. Mao made the same claim. The claims competed until 1971 when it became clear to most of the world that Mao's was more persuasive. Taiwan was kicked out of the UN. The Beijing government took its place as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, a seat given in recognition of China's role in fighting Japan in World War II.
Mired in its own misguided war in Vietnam, and intensely fearful of anything red, the U.S. was one of the last nations to recognize the legitimacy of Mao's government. In 1972 Richard Nixon made his historic journey to Beijing. In 1976 the U.S. took the next step by recognizing the People's Republic as China's sole legitimate government. It began pursuing the "One China, One Taiwan" policy under which official diplomatic contacts were exclusively with Beijing but continued to sell billions of dollars a year of fighter jets, helicopters, tanks and missiles to Taiwan to help defend against a possible Chinese effort to refunify by force.
In 1997 President Clinton declared a "strategic partnership" with Beijing over intense Republican objections. It was an astute recognition of the fact that China's 1.2 billion people must be accorded a central place in U.S. foreign policy. But the historic, moral and economic ties that bind the U.S. to Taiwan's 23 million people stand squarely in the way of cutting off arms sales and renouncing the pact under which the U.S. obliged itself to come to Taiwan's defense in the event of attack by China. That U.S. pledge and continuing arms sales continue to inflame Beijing to periodic bursts of violent anti-U.S. rhetoric.
Taiwan has been a domocracy since 1989 when it legalized opposition parties. It held its first democratic presidential elections in 1990. Lee Teng-hui handily won to keep the presidency which he had originally gained in 1988. Lee won again in 1996. Since 1997 he began efforts to warm up relations with Beijing by agreeing to enter into negotiations under a "One-China" framework with an eye toward eventual reunification. Beijing's leaders continued their highly successful campaign of pressuring diplomatic partners into severing ties with Taiwan. China even raised hell when Lee made a semi-surreptitious trip to New York in 1997. Since then China has scared neighborning nations like the Philippines into not allowing Lee to enter. As of 1999 Taiwan's diplomatic allies number about 18 out of about 220 nations on earth. All are tiny, impoverished Central American, African and Pacific Island nations that appreciate Taiwan's generous aid packages. Pago Pago is considered a major ally.
Feisty Lee Teng-hui launched his own guerilla offensive in July, 1999 by declaring over German radio that Taiwan was in fact a separate state and would negotiate with Beijing on an equal footing. That sent Beijing into a tizzy. It fired off bombastic threats to take Taiwan by force and to annhilate the U.S. Navy if it intervenes. On October 18 during his British visit Chinese President Jiang Zemin assumed a softer, more relaxed tone in telling a London newspaper that China would be peacefully reunited with Taiwan under a one-nation two-systems formula by the middle of the next century. One might have expected Lee to have been relieved by that statement. Instead, he brushed it aside as "a hoax". China should try instead to set a timetable for its democratization as that was the only way to ensure reunification, sneered Lee's Mainland Affairs Council chairman Su Chi. Most polls show that a clear majority of Taiwanese prefer to maintain the status quo indefinitely rather than moving toward unification.
Beijing's reunification mandate appears based on the idea that in winning the mainland, the Chinese people had rejected the "criminal" Kuomingtang and its right to rule any part of China. It also sees Taiwan as a galling symbol of the division wrought and preserved by western imperialists -- namely, the U.S. -- seeking to enjoy global hegemony at the expense of Chinese dignity.
Meanwhile the U.S. remains on the hook to defend Taiwan and sell it arms though doing so keeps its relations with a quarter of humanity rocky and on edge. Under its current policy the U.S. is the asbestos firewall that keeps friction between the two sides of the Taiwan Strait from igniting into war.
Should the U.S. continue alienating Beijing to help Taiwan protect its independence or improve relations with China by pressuring Taiwan to reunite?
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WHAT YOU SAY
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Who do you think would rather die? The young ROC soldier or the young PRC soldier?
The Young PRC soldier probably has more to gain from dying than life in the PRC. The PRC gives almost no benefits to those who serve in the Military. The salary for a soldier is around 2500 Yuan and despite the fact they enjoy low cost mdical services, these services are still in CHINA and are poor in quality. IF ANY OF YOU need to see pictures of one of China's "modern hospitals" Email me and Ill send you them and proof I know what Im talking about.
----------Based on my personal experience with soldiers on both sides I believe the PRC determination and readiness for action is a lot higher than those on Taiwan.
The PRC has nothing better to do that expand into the Pacific because so much of their land is unariable. I work there with the Engineers corps and they will say the same thing. China's western land is useless and the islands to its East are easy to take over. CHINA has been planting its
Marines on the islands for years and bullying the natives. MSNBC doesnt talk about it, but it happens. TAIWAN is wear America DRAWS the line against Red China, right or wrong, China dare not cross.
---Only 1/3 of the island believes in independence on any given day. The other 2/3 are not for independence.
Show me some proof of these facts. I call this a "LIE". You know why? There is no proof. Thats because it isnt true. Taiwan's YOUTH want independance and Taiwan's Elders want reunition with the PRC but they absolutely do not want the PRC's government rule. They do not want to be communist. They do not want China's rediculous education system and furthermore, they do not want to be poor. Taiwanese per capita make more than any Chinese resident per capita in Shanghai, Beijing or Hang Zhou, the major economic zones besides HK. Hong Kong's economy right now is at a STANDSTILL. I can prove it with reports detailed and labeled. Perhaps reuniting with the PRC has something to do with that.
-----You can ask the same philosophical question of Taiwan. What does Taiwan gain from declaring independence?
The answer is INDEPENDANCE from a backwards government. They dont want to be communist any more than a fish wants to be a meal.
Nicholi Servia PHD EMP nicholiservia@hotmail.com   
Tuesday, November 26, 2002 at 09:01:49 (PST)
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SOG,
"Sorry I am in a crunch one of my close friends is very sick with bacterial phemonia. Please pray for her she might die. Her name is Lauren, right now she is in ICU. Critical condition. I'd appreciate any prayer you can get."
Now THAT'S not cool...prayers heading out. Hope she pulls through, man. Take it light.
Apache Driver   
Tuesday, November 26, 2002 at 07:58:09 (PST)
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Apache driver
Sorry I am in a crunch one of my close friends is very sick with bacterial phemonia. Please pray for her she might die. Her name is Lauren, right now she is in ICU. Critical condition. I'd appreciate any prayer you can get.
As for the MSNBC. I agree with whatever you thought about it. Lets just say they are too military savvy.
SOG   
Friday, November 22, 2002 at 15:48:28 (PST)
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huu76,
You're a moron.
Tell me what's your interpretation of the "Open Door Policy"
Get your history straight white boy.
AC Dropout   
Friday, November 22, 2002 at 10:39:08 (PST)
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AC,
France = Vietnam,
Portugal = former Macao
Dutch = Philipines
Germany does NOT equal Japan
Marco Polo was hardly a conquerer.
USA forced open Japan, not China.
I'm rather disappointed.
Come to think of it, only Japan and UK have really attacked China.
Does China's buddy N. Korea (not including the last couple months) grant visiting rights to its citizens?
Back to the proper topic and relating to "What is there to gain". The only thing to gain for China is to elminate one (of many) beacons in the Pacific that show how China's system is inferior to the West's. Taiwan is worth much more to America than it does to China, so of course it'll be defended. The U.S. will defend S. Corea too when Elvis finally loses it.
huu76   
Thursday, November 21, 2002 at 19:33:27 (PST)
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What is There to Gain?
Who do you think would rather die? The young ROC soldier or the young PRC soldier?
Based on my personal experience with soldiers on both sides I believe the PRC determination and readiness for action is a lot higher than those on Taiwan.
Only 1/3 of the island believes in independence on any given day. The other 2/3 are not for independence.
You can ask the same philosophical question of Taiwan. What does Taiwan gain from declaring independence?
Will the economy become better with independence? Will local politics become better with independence?
There are so many businessmen in Taiwan that want to do business on the mainland. However, ROC prevents them. They fear direct links. They fear engaging China directly. Why should 23 million people suffer just so that 26 nations can recognized 1 defacto president? Why should 23 million people suffer so 1 man can lament about his lost as Taipei Mayor race 4 years ago?
I guess the adage "it is better to be a ruler of hell, than a servant in heaven" fits well for the presidential office of ROC.
AC Dropout   
Thursday, November 21, 2002 at 12:46:01 (PST)
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SOG,
Let me offer this to you, and see what you think. It's a link to MSNBC, which I generally take with a grain of salt, though there are some nuggets there (at least, stuff which jibes with my recollection of the balance of power from INTSUMs I sat through at Ft. Campbell.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/WARROOM_front.asp
Now, this is about America's military might, but there is an interactive presentation on the status of the Chinese military on the right. I must confess, I find it to be a little vague, but I'm curious as to what you have to say on the matter.
Apache Driver   
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 at 20:39:37 (PST)
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Apache
what do you think about your brain child here huu76?
He's one interesting guy. LOL
SOG   
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 at 12:52:48 (PST)
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What does China have to gain if they take Taiwan? As a net result, not much. They will gain factories and a country with a well developed infrastructure. But they will also gain 23 million new citizens - the majority of which will secretly be hostile to the new Mainland rule and may form a revolt. So, China already has enough people on the mainland that they can't take care of very well already, so they want to add 23 million more - half of which will be potential revolutionaries that will want to plot to fight Mainland Chinese rule?
Also, ask this to a Chinese soldier? Would he really want to risk his life to take over an island (Taiwan)? What kind of real argument can the Chinese government give to this soldier to make his really believe that Taiwan is worth dying over? The argument that Taiwan was historically a part of China and that it needs to be brought back in the fold because it is a still-standing embarassment to the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist party? I really don't think that the ancient ego-driven emotions of the aging members of the Central Committee translate very well to a young Chinese soldier.
Why would any soldier want to risk a single life to take Taiwan? China already has enought of its own inernal problems to solve without adding more to them. They already have enough resources and potential to build and grow without Taiwan's infrastructure.
So if the issue is just one of embarassment and feeling incomplete without Taiwan, then who really feels this? The only people who really feel this strongly enough to want to risk lives over it are a handful of 90 and 80 year old Chinese Communist Committee members. To them it is a personal grudge that they have not resolved yet. But that's all it is - their old personal battle. You may find many young Chinese today who think that China should take back Taiwan, but you will only find very very few who would say "Yes, I would risk my life to take back Taiwan."
What is There to Gain?   
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 at 12:41:38 (PST)
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huu76,
"Hmmm, UK and USA make 2. Enlighten my hick mind will you please. Who makes 5?"
Actually it is Britain, Germany, France, Italy, USA, Russia, and Portugal that tried to carve up China. Not to mention Japan.
It is ignorant questions like this, that leave many to believe you are hardly asian or well read.
You can easily do a web search on "China history," "Tibet," and "Open Door Policy." And catch up on what the Canadian public education system doesn't cover.
"Hell, since everyone who visits is a spy"
Say what? That is dumbest thing I ever heard. So are you a sleeper spy in Canada?
"Are you sure it isn't the gov't preventing them from going, afraid they might like it too much and stay?"
Doubt it. Taiwan laws specifically do not grant visiting visas to PRC citizens on the mainland. So far in 1 year only about 150 or so mainlanders have been allow to visit, through 3 party visa. Like a PRC permenent resident in Japan and Thailand. Remember PRC doesn't restrict people from leaving. It is the destination country that does the restricing. Have you ever applied for a visa? This is common knowledge for people who travel.
There are only a few cases on the planet where the country of origin will restrict travel. Like USA to Cuba. But a Canadian wouln't know anything about that.
AC Dropout   
Wednesday, November 20, 2002 at 09:39:45 (PST)
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