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TAIWAN INDEPENDENCE
OR UNIFICATION?

(Updated Tuesday, Apr 1, 2008, 05:54:53 PM)

he most pressing Asian foreign policy issue currently faced by the U.S. is the Taiwan question. The email we receive in reaction to our articles relating to this issue suggests that it's an emotional one for many of our readers. Perhaps one reason for the emotion is the fact that the issue isn't amenable to an easy or simple solution.
     The first historical mention of Taiwan appears to have been when Portugese traders found it to be a resting place on their journey to Japan and named it Isla Formosa. Beijing's claim to Taiwan dates back to the 16th century when a Chinese general fought off the Portugese to claim the island for the emperor. In 1895 the expansion-minded Japanese annexed it after defeating China in a war on the Corean peninsula. China briefly reestablished sovereignty over Taiwan following Japan's defeat in August of 1945.
     At the time the official government of China, as recognized by most nations of the world, was under the control of the Kuomingtang headed by Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek. He was engaged in a desperate war against Mao Tse-tung's peasant army. Despite billions of dollars of aid by the U.S. based mainly on intensely partisan reporting by Henry Luce's Time/Life empire, the spectacularly corrupt Chiang lost that war and fled to Taiwan with 2.5 million followers.
     He established the present government of Taiwan on December 7, 1949 and proclaimed it the sole legitimate government of all China. Mao made the same claim. The claims competed until 1971 when it became clear to most of the world that Mao's was more persuasive. Taiwan was kicked out of the UN. The Beijing government took its place as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, a seat given in recognition of China's role in fighting Japan in World War II.
     Mired in its own misguided war in Vietnam, and intensely fearful of anything red, the U.S. was one of the last nations to recognize the legitimacy of Mao's government. In 1972 Richard Nixon made his historic journey to Beijing. In 1976 the U.S. took the next step by recognizing the People's Republic as China's sole legitimate government. It began pursuing the "One China, One Taiwan" policy under which official diplomatic contacts were exclusively with Beijing but continued to sell billions of dollars a year of fighter jets, helicopters, tanks and missiles to Taiwan to help defend against a possible Chinese effort to refunify by force.
     In 1997 President Clinton declared a "strategic partnership" with Beijing over intense Republican objections. It was an astute recognition of the fact that China's 1.2 billion people must be accorded a central place in U.S. foreign policy. But the historic, moral and economic ties that bind the U.S. to Taiwan's 23 million people stand squarely in the way of cutting off arms sales and renouncing the pact under which the U.S. obliged itself to come to Taiwan's defense in the event of attack by China. That U.S. pledge and continuing arms sales continue to inflame Beijing to periodic bursts of violent anti-U.S. rhetoric.
     Taiwan has been a domocracy since 1989 when it legalized opposition parties. It held its first democratic presidential elections in 1990. Lee Teng-hui handily won to keep the presidency which he had originally gained in 1988. Lee won again in 1996. Since 1997 he began efforts to warm up relations with Beijing by agreeing to enter into negotiations under a "One-China" framework with an eye toward eventual reunification. Beijing's leaders continued their highly successful campaign of pressuring diplomatic partners into severing ties with Taiwan. China even raised hell when Lee made a semi-surreptitious trip to New York in 1997. Since then China has scared neighborning nations like the Philippines into not allowing Lee to enter. As of 1999 Taiwan's diplomatic allies number about 18 out of about 220 nations on earth. All are tiny, impoverished Central American, African and Pacific Island nations that appreciate Taiwan's generous aid packages. Pago Pago is considered a major ally.
     Feisty Lee Teng-hui launched his own guerilla offensive in July, 1999 by declaring over German radio that Taiwan was in fact a separate state and would negotiate with Beijing on an equal footing. That sent Beijing into a tizzy. It fired off bombastic threats to take Taiwan by force and to annhilate the U.S. Navy if it intervenes. On October 18 during his British visit Chinese President Jiang Zemin assumed a softer, more relaxed tone in telling a London newspaper that China would be peacefully reunited with Taiwan under a one-nation two-systems formula by the middle of the next century. One might have expected Lee to have been relieved by that statement. Instead, he brushed it aside as "a hoax". China should try instead to set a timetable for its democratization as that was the only way to ensure reunification, sneered Lee's Mainland Affairs Council chairman Su Chi. Most polls show that a clear majority of Taiwanese prefer to maintain the status quo indefinitely rather than moving toward unification.
     Beijing's reunification mandate appears based on the idea that in winning the mainland, the Chinese people had rejected the "criminal" Kuomingtang and its right to rule any part of China. It also sees Taiwan as a galling symbol of the division wrought and preserved by western imperialists -- namely, the U.S. -- seeking to enjoy global hegemony at the expense of Chinese dignity.
     Meanwhile the U.S. remains on the hook to defend Taiwan and sell it arms though doing so keeps its relations with a quarter of humanity rocky and on edge. Under its current policy the U.S. is the asbestos firewall that keeps friction between the two sides of the Taiwan Strait from igniting into war.
     Should the U.S. continue alienating Beijing to help Taiwan protect its independence or improve relations with China by pressuring Taiwan to reunite?

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WHAT YOU SAY

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Anti-Taiwanese...
I think the real questions for Taiwan are "Who's in Washington" and "How much will we suffer and is official independence worth it over a defacto one"?
The thing preventing other parts of China from splitting is a pledge from history's mightiest nation to protect them.
Japan attacked the U.S. because the U.S. was slowly bleeding them of oil and other natural resources. They wanted to scare the Americans from directly entering their war.

Hey, my weekend rant didn't make it!?
huu76    Wednesday, December 18, 2002 at 19:26:13 (PST)    [65.95.200.244]
anti-TI: Below is my take. I am relatively more optimistic.

Everything has a closure. This applies to the civil war (1949-2002) that started the division across the strait. The current division won't be permanent and will end one way or another.

People do speculate on the time when the unification should arrive. If you check the increasing number of Taiwanese living in China, you have to know the eventual unification won't be too far. Taiwanese are comfortable living in China because it feels like home. Especially if you recognize the fact that more and more young and elite Taiwanese are joining/studying/working in China.
Recently the KMT and allies (pro-unification groups) won the mayoral election with a land-slide (65%). It reflects the reality.

As time goes by and reform movement (political and economical) intensified on mainland, the sea change will become more and more clear across the Taiwan strait. Imagine one morning we wake up and Chinese people have chosen a new national flag while retiring the red flag to museum, that would be some evolution.

Parties, ideologies, etc. are simply tools to benefit regular people. I am fairly confident younger generations will outperform previous ones and leave baggage behind.

JMHO
builderx    Wednesday, December 18, 2002 at 17:39:40 (PST)    [24.188.239.207]
AC

man, things just keep getting worse and worse. We caught all of them but at a horrendous cost. We had 8 armed guards protecting her 24\7 and she loved us so much that she ran away to try to talk to the head of the gang. She got raped 3 times and 24 stiches + 1 more broken bone, he pistol whipped her and cut her cheek, back, thighs, and arms. We found her in 1.5 hrs, thank God, otherwsie she would be dead. So guess I am out again. My heart is crushed all over again.
SOG    Wednesday, December 18, 2002 at 14:10:58 (PST)    [216.239.163.152]
Anti-Taiwan Independence,
Actually, I doubt that China would attack Taiwan and I doubt that Taiwan will break completely from China. The situation now is pretty intense but I don't think it'll go beyond a standstill since there are just too many factors to consider and too much consequences that would result from war. Through time the situation may result in something along the lines of "One country, two systems".
Christine    Wednesday, December 18, 2002 at 13:59:08 (PST)    [141.151.11.42]
The simple fact of the matter is that, for right or wrong, (IMHO - WRONG), PRC will go to war with Taiwan if Taiwan declares independence. The simple fact of the matter is that the US will likely be drawn into the war. The simple fact of the matter is that the only way PRC military can counter a US Carrier force is by using short-range tactical nuclear weapons. The simple fact of the matter is that America's military leaders realize this, and they would likely move to strike with US missiles - maybe even US nuclear missiles - before the carrier fleet came in range of PRC missiles. So...Taiwan independence means war, which might mean nuclear war...which might mean the end of the human race.

Some people may question if US will really go to war for Taiwan. It is good you question this. If Taiwanese thought US will definitely protect them, they would be more in favor of independance. But the links and history between the US and Taiwan are too strong to ignore. Even domestic issues aside, if the US did not defend Taiwan, it would lose credibility in its alliance partners.

Some say that if the US firmly defended Taiwan, PRC would not attack because the PRC's leaders would see they cannot win.

Some people may question if PRC will really go to war - a war that they could easilly lose; a war that will definitly destroy their financial and technological base (which is Taiwan). But the #1 purpose of government is to keep a nation's sovereignty intact. From the perspective of PRC leaders, if Taiwan goes independant, what is to prevent the seperatists in Xinjiang and Tibet (Xinzang) from seperating? For that matter, what would keep GuangDong as part of China? The concept of Empire China has been around since 200 BCE. The concept of the multi-ethnic nation-state of China has been around for less than 100 years. To PRC's leaders, an independant Taiwan means the end of China. They would go to war even with the odds stacked against them. The Japanese generals who planned the attack on US in WW2 knew that the odds were stacked against them. They knew they were making a terrible long-shot gamble. They also felt that they had no choice.

For these reasons, I pray that Taiwanese do not vote for independance.
anti-Taiwan independance    Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 11:28:06 (PST)    [67.48.164.153]
SOG,

Glad to hear you are back. How's your friend?

Would have asked sooner. But the Ed's deleted my previous message due to system errors.
AC Dropout    Sunday, December 15, 2002 at 13:56:28 (PST)    [24.136.115.189]
OF course you would mention that a Taiwanese general is threatening a nuclear attack on the mainland for self-defense yet you don't seem to mention that the PRC has been threatening to wipe out Taiwan for years.
Anaheim Native

Threatening? There are currently 400+ missile in Fujian province trained on Taiwan. China threatens to attack Taiwan the moment they declare statehood. Big Bad China threatens not to support Taiwan in case of a crisis such as outbreak of disease. Sounds like China might try Biological warfare attacks to me.
20/20 vision    Thursday, December 12, 2002 at 22:47:49 (PST)    [211.156.18.44]
>Most people accustomed to the USA would probably not make it in the PRC. It so competitive over there. Only the strongest and smartest make it.

- Actually, anyone with money here can make it. There are 55 ethnic minorites here other than the Han chinese and they are doing just fine in that 0% of them are homeless and they run buisnesses here with impunity from most Chinese laws. Money changes everything...even the laws.

>Look at half the people who post against me. They would be eaten up alive in the PRC business environment.

You do not have a monopoly on the truth and half of the people who post against you, batter you until you change the subject. Its happening right now. I hear more opinions from your view than facts. Alot more. Thats what I have come to expect from PRC supporters though. Doesn't suprise me much. BTW, Im in the PRC buisness environment but Im paid by the US. If I had to survive on a PRC style wage, while having to work ridiculous hours; Id be homeless to, or damn-near close to it.
Nicholi Servia PHD EMP nicholiservia@hotmail.com    Thursday, December 12, 2002 at 22:44:02 (PST)    [211.156.13.21]
Christine
"Contrary to your belief, the world is not that tempted to fight fight fight, most countries got internal improvements to deal with, with the exception of good ole Middle East of course."

I would have thought from looking at Yugoslavia 1990's, Nort Korea's attempts to build a nuclear arsenal and scud missile presence, wars in Africa, IRA vs Britain, Azerbaianian fighting , Terrorism in the Phillipines and Guerrila takeovers of South America in the form of Acrtels that your statement holds no weight. It seems to me that these situations point to some type of worlwide need for warfare. Perhaps your only looking at one side of the spectrum? I myself feel drawn to warfare and conflict. Charles Darwin, Frued, Ceaser, Mao Tse Dong, Adolf Hitler and Shaka Zulu are some of my personal heroes. Not for heir ideals but for their military brilliance and strategic thinking. The actual strategys of Zulus' "Perk ta", Hitler's "Blitzkerieg" and Darwin's "survival of the fitest" are taught in many forms in the Military in the US and Europe. You cannot argue with success can you?

"No I'm not a USA hater, but sometimes, people have to realize that the world does not revolve around America and the death of American does not trigger Armaggedon. "

---I think the best answer to this statement was a speech I heard.

"I remember the glorious days of the Roman Empire when simply wearing the crest and denoting oneself as a Roman was the greateast protection possible.
No one would dare attack one of them less they would lose their lives.
Declaring terrorism on an American citizen should be met with retribution so great that the victims of assault will lay slain forever as a symbol to the next who would dare to compete."

You question my ethics about slavery, war and human violations? Well If you are indeed a Chinese American or otherwise Asian, you might want to ask yourself how far you got thanks to the sacrifices of your ancestors. Dont pretend tat the computer and LAN you sit on typing with dont have the blood of your people somewhere on their silicon chips. That would be a crime.
NS PHD EMP nicholiservia@hotmail.com    Thursday, December 12, 2002 at 22:36:33 (PST)    [211.156.13.21]
Look at this article by the Capitalist Swine CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/BUSINESS/asia/12
/12/japan.chinatrade/index.html

With China being Taiwans largest trading partner instead of USA these days, I believe the political influence of Taiwan will be shifting in the near future.

Not to mention the same trading shift is also happening in Japan. Next thing you know USA will only have a military base on Daioyutai to peek at asian women taking a shower....hahahaha.
AC Dropout    Thursday, December 12, 2002 at 15:29:19 (PST)    [24.136.115.189]
huu76,

"only the West really celebrates Christmas for what it is. "

What are you talking about the West calls it Seasons Greetings or Happy Holidays now. Christmas is sooo un-PC.

It is a commercial holiday.

At least people in PRC and ROC have holidays that is really about a strong nuclear family. Chinese New Years, Mid Autumn Festival, etc.

People in the West don't even know what a nuclear family is these days without a lawyer present, let alone marriage.
AC Dropout    Thursday, December 12, 2002 at 10:31:41 (PST)    [24.136.115.189]
Anaheim Native,

"Taiwanese general is threatening a nuclear attack on the mainland"

Maybe that is why your handle is Anaheim Native and not Taipei Native...What nuclear weapons on Taiwan were you referring to?

I believe the general in question made an official statement that they would blow up the dams in China to "drown" millions of Chinese to protect Taiwan. Notice China never responded with they would use nuclear options on Taiwan. A very civilized reponse, I do believe.

How does a CCP get on AOL to censor information. AOL just laid off 2500 net empolyees and are based in the USA. AOL can barely keep itself together in our depression economy.

Even your ally, Nick the highschool dropout, has to find work in China, because he is unable to find a job in the USA.
AC Dropout    Thursday, December 12, 2002 at 10:28:01 (PST)    [24.136.115.189]
NS PHD EMP,

Besides the fact my previous post was lost. I do believe you are that annoying "Jing Cha" I had to smack around a few months ago.

#5 I enjoy making a fool out of ignorant posters like youself
AC Dropout    Thursday, December 12, 2002 at 10:21:29 (PST)    [24.136.115.189]

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