ASIAN FEMALE/ AFRICAN AMERICAN MALE RELATIONSHIPS
(Updated to reflect the 100 most recent valid responses.)

Assuming you are an Asian female, what most attracts you to African American males?
Their facial features | 45%
Their physique | 12%
Their attitude and personality | 32%
Their education & cultural values | 11%

Assuming you are an Asian female, what most dissuades you from relations with African American males?
I don't find them physically attractive. | 1%
I don't find their personalities and attitudes appealing. | 13%
I don't think they would find me attractive. | 64%
I'd rather not deal with the disapproval of family. | 23% 		Assuming you are an African American male, what most attracts you to Asian females?
Their facial features | 62%
Their physique | 13%
Their attitude and personality | 15%
Their education & cultural values | 10%

Assuming you are an African American male, what most dissuades you from relations with Asian females?
I don't find them physically attractive. | 1%
I don't find their personalities and attitudes appealing. | 6%
I don't think they would find me attractive. | 81%
I'd rather not deal with the disapproval of family and friends. | 12%

Geneva K.:
if an experience in a chat room is enough to fuel the obvious lack of understanding or knowledge about black men (no different than any other man on the face of the planet by the way)then lucky the poor man who was saved from your insecure perspective of human beings. Don't let the door hit your back !
what will black men do without you ?    Friday, August 02, 2002 at 10:04:51 (PDT)
Claire:
I agree, I also find it strange that anyone would ask you anything ???
That's like asking the brickmaker for knowledge of jewels. Clearly you have nothing intelligent to contribute to the discussion of "black image".
not exactly your area of expertise    Friday, August 02, 2002 at 10:01:20 (PDT)
To Everyone:

Before everyone attacks Claire, she was referring to articles that should make Black Men feel that somebody out there is "feelin' ya" and understand the cause of the problem. It's on-line for all to see. Also Two Nations by Richard Hatcher will open peoples eyes. The Black Images is very important when dealing with the rest of the world. How one deals with cultural encounters will determine the feedback. Trying to change everyones' opinion is a daunting task. You should focus on something smaller. Your little domain. Be Black, BUT "suave" Black.
P.S. Suaaaaave Black.....
NeoKat    Friday, August 02, 2002 at 09:42:41 (PDT)
Claire,
How much experience do you have with black people? Those guys with the pants hanging off there butts would you ever talk to one of them to ever get to know that person or just look at them from a distance and judge. I'm another guy stationed at Yokota air base in Japan with Blackanese! Please sweetheart, don't use the word MOST it simply states nearly all or just about all. You minus well just say all black people etc... Why would you rather date White guys over Black guys? What makes you think that they are better than black men? Now if you are just attracted to white men then that's a different story. Forget what you might of heard from your friends or influences around you if any, you need to have your own experience for yourself then you may speak out dear! Know people for them and not their skin color! Don't leave this site with an angry heart just open your mind a little more, we all need to do this for no one knows everything. All we can do as people is learn more if we have a teachable spirit.

KENJI
Kenji drifter82@bidbay.com    Friday, August 02, 2002 at 08:26:51 (PDT)
Geneva,
have you been in any asian american chat rooms lately? It's EXACTLY the same way...it may as well be the african-american chat as well as far as the pimp/gangsta speak, as you so eloquently put it. I recently tried it one day, and the guys in there are acting(stress the term acting) like these hardcore gangsta wanna-be's, as are the girls. It's not something restricted to the African American chat rooms, and neither of us need to be acting that way anyway.
T.B. east_t@hotmail.com    Friday, August 02, 2002 at 07:29:04 (PDT)
To Elronin,

I'm very glad that you are sharing more of your experiences in Japan with us, I know that there are others like you over there who are making their life work within that society, but at times like this it really helps to hear it first hand.

I'm inclined to agree with some of the posters here who feel that we all know that a lot of interracial relationships DON'T work out well. There could be several reasons for this and I'm not going to believe it's always the man's fault. If someone wants to tell about their bad experience I want to listen and they definitely have my sympathy, but I don't see the point of making blanket negative statements about black men, almost to the point of labeling us as "hopeless". I know of a lot of bad men (of all races) but I also know of many good ones as well.

Black men do suffer from an "image" problem in this society but after reading an article in Time magazine (Asia edition), I feel some Asians have an image problem too. The article states how millions of Asians are spending millions of dollars and risking their health and lives to have surgery to look more "caucasian". I was surprised to hear of this.

It's apparent that practically every other race on the planet has been exposed to the myth of "white superiority and beauty". It's a sorry fact of life that we all must deal with in our own way.

I still have a strong interest in Asian culture and in Asian women, but I have never wanted to be white and I wouldn't be interested in a non-white woman who would turn to surgery or other methods to be white. There is nothing wrong with Asian women wanting to only date white men, that is their right and choice, I just don't see the point of them announcing it here.

Of course everyone has the right to post whatever they want to here, but I honestly hope that people with something positive and constructive to say will outnumber those who only want to cause confusion and discord.
Thaihorse    Friday, August 02, 2002 at 00:55:08 (PDT)
Joe might be on to something, a little negative comment can direct attention away from a positive discourse.

let us get back to what unites us and help it grow.

may i lighten the dialogue a little with lighthearted conversation.

let me ask the ladies, what is you favorite flower? do you like merlot?

how does sitting on a hiltop on an autumn day and watching the sunset sound?

do you like to sit in silence with your african-american man and enjoy being with him?
do you really want love and commitment?

do you like soft music in the background with dinner? do you like scented candles? have you ever heard of Tiger Woods? have you heard of Curtis Mayfield?

peace, love and tranquility. and smile when you see me in the grocery store.
very old coal b369twoo@hotmail.com    Thursday, August 01, 2002 at 20:33:12 (PDT)
Claire,

Are you are speaking generally? We (men of African descent) come from various countries, social-economic backgrounds, and so forth. There are many of us, the vast majority, who have no interest in dating and marrying anything but only beautiful women of African descent. Some of us simply want to see what would actually make a black man interested in Asian women, and vice versa.

Some people in here offer interesting explanations for their attractions, but most of what I've seen in here is the constant whining, complaining, and and objectifying Asian women. Like the revenge of the black nerds.

OJ Simpson? He is only a good example of black men who have a sickening color complexe (who also detest black women) -- Simpson is considered a sell-out to the informed black American community. He exploited the black community when he was in troubled, but then abandoned them for his white girlfriends.

All this is not to say that men of other races (white, Asian, Latino) don't have image problems (they most certainly do within their own communities, much of it isn't documented), but that is beyond the scope of this forum discussion.

Still, I'm very glad that you are able to express your general disinterest in black males. I actually get a kick out of observing some of the black men (who most likely refuse to date black women) accuse others of racism and hypocrisy.
Strange that a number of brothers want to blame the media, the culture or the society from which Asians come from for the problems they have.

If Asians are so uninformed and ignorant of blacks, as these black men on here claim them to be, why are they even interested in Asian women to begin with?
Until i hear stories of black men *not* being attracted to Asian women and rejecting advances from an Asian women, and also hearing stories from Asian women complaining about it, my stance will pretty much remain the same... Hypocrites...
Juan Philippe niceguy1771@mail.com    Thursday, August 01, 2002 at 19:19:32 (PDT)
Geneva K.,

That is very nice. Congratulations on your brand new discovery. Now you and the Wonderful Miss Yomuri can both take your negativity to the AW/WM forum where you obviously need to be. Don't come here talking negative things about BM. BM/AW relationships hear enough terrible things from some people. Don't come here trying to promote how much you don't like BM. Leave this forum for us who are in favor of healthy interracial relationships involving BM/AW. If you have something positive to say then say it. If not, please just take it elsewhere.
who needs it?    Thursday, August 01, 2002 at 19:00:33 (PDT)

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