ASIAN FEMALE/ AFRICAN AMERICAN MALE RELATIONSHIPS
(Updated to reflect the 100 most recent valid responses.)

Assuming you are an Asian female, what most attracts you to African American males?
Their facial features | 45%
Their physique | 12%
Their attitude and personality | 32%
Their education & cultural values | 11%

Assuming you are an Asian female, what most dissuades you from relations with African American males?
I don't find them physically attractive. | 1%
I don't find their personalities and attitudes appealing. | 13%
I don't think they would find me attractive. | 64%
I'd rather not deal with the disapproval of family. | 23% 		Assuming you are an African American male, what most attracts you to Asian females?
Their facial features | 62%
Their physique | 13%
Their attitude and personality | 15%
Their education & cultural values | 10%

Assuming you are an African American male, what most dissuades you from relations with Asian females?
I don't find them physically attractive. | 1%
I don't find their personalities and attitudes appealing. | 6%
I don't think they would find me attractive. | 81%
I'd rather not deal with the disapproval of family and friends. | 12%

To: "what will black men do without you"

Please don't be a "bug wit" here. My limited chat room experience isn't the only core issue with my having reached my decison not to date black men. It's that I don't find (in gerneral) the negative comments being made in "this room" by the vast majority of black men that you imply that "I don't understand or have enough knowledge of". That may be true, but who cares to know anything about someone who from what I see on quite a regular basis attacks asian women in here? Unfortunately, it's becomming somewhat of a daily ritual. And, the only reason that I visited that black chat room was because of comments made earlier by a black man here also voicing his extreme displeasure with that activity in black chat rooms. I don't see you attacking him! I was curious, I engaged, I saw for myself which merely reinforced what I see daily, and summarily conculuded that it wasn't in my best interest. Bottom line.
Geneva    Sunday, August 04, 2002 at 09:34:03 (PDT)
I had been reading all the recent postings, for I am not a frequent on this forum. I must say this is a sad case. I don't see why is it so hard to for everyone to learn from each other. I am in relationship with a black man for almost three years. We went through our ups and downs and still do at times, but that's life. We are very happy and planning to get marry. We got to the point in our relationship and we accept each other for who we are and continue to grow.
In the begining it was hard since I had never dated a black man and he had never date a Chinese strong headed female born in Vietman and grew up in the U.S..
All I am trying to say is that don't stereotype and judge a group. Everyone is different and that's what exciting about life.
I do agree that a lot of people are contaminated with the propaganda of the "superior white". I lived in Asia for about 12 years and I have friends for all different walks of life. Every race and the good and the bad.
Harmony to all!
proudaawoman    Sunday, August 04, 2002 at 07:09:30 (PDT)
alright, I'm fully Asian, Japanese to be exact!! & I have the most amazing boyfriend who is Black ( from the Carribean) & how about brushing off your race opionated issues!! We are good just as the next race & bad as the other.
MY WONDERFUL BF IS BLACK!!    Saturday, August 03, 2002 at 23:38:07 (PDT)
But I don't date black american females. And I am a blackman. Does that make me a sellout? Actually I don't date anyone. But because I have no attraction to black American women does that make me a sellout. Considering how black women have treated me in my life. I have absolutely no feelings for them whatsoever. Isn't that my right? as an individual. Or Should I be forced to like a certain specific group, just because of social or political pressure? As for Asian women, I have yet to meet an Asian woman who is even remotely interested in me. The only thing I have ever been told by an Asian woman Was by a Taiwaniese woman. Who said that I, "Am black, ugly and Dirty all over". Unfortunatly, I feel that "most" Asian women feel this way in regards to Blackmen. All they have to do is turn on the TV.
I love America.
2002 most women hate men    Friday, August 02, 2002 at 18:34:19 (PDT)
To:{Not exactly your area of expertise}
Brother that was a "cheap shot" that you leveled at Claire. She was only responding to a request made by one of the brother's here to provide some data. And she said what she said because some many brothers in here have jumped on her because she stands her ground. Personally I repect that quality in any person, or any race.
She wasn't attacking anyone, and at least she's informing some of the brother's about where to access certain information about "our situation" I don't see you providing anything like that. So don't be upset with the messenger because of the message that they bring. At least she's bringing something and it's positive, maybe you need to get down to the bookstore and check it out instead of flapping your lips.
Bo Bo    Friday, August 02, 2002 at 16:02:14 (PDT)
Claire,
interesting response. It's clear that you really didn't understand what I was saying. The burden of the "image problem" lies with those who embrace the image not with the objects of it. I wasn't asking for some reference materials, I was asking for personal opinions. The fact that you equate Black culture with an "image problem" says all I really need to know.

Six-ten,
I don't know your sense of humor but can I assume that was a joke? Do you really think what the Black man needs to do to eradicate the insidious "image problem" is to wear trench coats like Sam Jackson did in a movie?

Geneva K,
sorry about your bad experience. I really know what you're talking about and think it's pathetic. I've seen the same thing amongst Blacks at non-Black colleges. Some of them want to out-Black everyone else so they play themselves like fools/thugs/pimps etc. And most of then had good upbringings. It's like a minstrel show from 100 years ago. I think this is the most unfortunate offshoot of Black nationalism from the 60s. At the time for many people (including some Blacks) Black=ghetto. You'll make your own decisions who to date but rest assured that most Black people (even those from the ghetto) don't embrace that negativity.

Thaihorse,
reading my notes, you'll see that I disagree the Black men suffer from an image problem (see above as to who's problem it is). If a brother suffers it's because he chooses too. We all know what they say about sticks and stones.

So I'm going to tell a couple of my experiences. When I went to China, I hooked up with one of the girls on the trip. Before we got together she was telling me how she always liked Black men. I found her cute and we were compatible so nature took its course. This is all while we're in China. B4 we leave for home she breaks up with me because her parents (Chinese mom, 1/2 White, 1/2 Chinese dad) don't want her going out with a Black man. That old Asian and White are ok but no one darker bs. She was unwilling to stand up to them for what she wanted and there it ends.

Some good: My next gf was the Vietnamese girl I wrote about. We could make each other laugh all day and she was so sexy. First we worked together, then played together then did other things together. It ended amicably each of us cherising our time together but life took us in different directions.

A mostly platonic relation ship: It also happens that my closest friend is Asian. We've got incredible resonance. Take me, make me a foot shorter, Asian, female and bi and you've got her. Her biggest flaw is she don't like da funk muzic.
jack handey mistermajikal at yahoo.com    Friday, August 02, 2002 at 14:33:29 (PDT)
To Everyone and all potential posters,
If you disagree with someone, state what you disagree with and why. Dont tell them to go away. Dont't start talking angrily nor start calling names.

Be positive and have positive discussions. If you disagree with interracial relationships, then please cause trouble someplace else. There is enough trouble in the world already.
Six Ten Black Male elronin@ameritech.net    Friday, August 02, 2002 at 14:07:58 (PDT)
First timer here.
I've been checking this site out for about the past two months or so, and I'm really don't know what you brothers are doing up in here? On, the one hand you're here (I believe) to foster and promote better relationships with asian women, but every time I come up in here I see asian women being attacked, no assaulted by a barrage of negative remarks just because you don't agree with their points of view. Hey, there are always going to be people that don't agree with you, but to attack someone just for that! Doesn't make any sense. Oh, unless you brothers just attack only those asian women that don't agree with you or stand up for what they believe, maybe that's the mindset. No strong asian women allowed...I guess.
Brother Juan complied some stats and shared them with everyone a few days ago, indicating that 85% of the comments posted here were from black men, and roughly 15% from asian women. If you're here to better understand the asian women's point of view then where are they? And why must you see fit to jump all over those that do come to post? This just looks like a hangout for the brothers to complain and moan about everything from what the white man did to them, from how prejudice the asian culture is. If that be the case then why are you here chasing asian women? I have only seen recently one post from an asian women in here talking about how she liked black men, and she was like real young. (from New Zealand) Again, where are the women at?
If, they're not here and representing themselves in equal numbers then what's the point to all of this? It appears that you desire them "far" more than they desire you. Wake up.
Ron    Friday, August 02, 2002 at 14:04:40 (PDT)
Mr.Philippi,
No, sir I wasn't speakng "generally", but thank "you" very much for taking the time to inquire. As opposed to operating under the same mindless attack mode processes that seems to be the norm in here. But, words from insecure men don't hurt me so it means nothing.
Claire    Friday, August 02, 2002 at 12:25:02 (PDT)

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