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COMPARING ASIAN NATIONALITIES
(Updated Wednesday, Jan 22, 2025, 06:39:09 AM to reflect the 100 most recent valid responses.)

Which Asian nationality possesses the most attractive physical traits?
Chinese | 27%
Corean | 23%
Filipino | 15%
Indian | 8%
Japanese | 13%
Vietnamese | 14%

Which Asian nationality possesses the most appealing personality traits?
Chinese | 31%
Corean | 16%
Filipino | 17%
Indian | 6%
Japanese | 17%
Vietnamese | 13%




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VNinterest,

“Therefore, since I'm a Vietnamese, I would support the theory that my ancestor came from one of the chinese dynasties rather than from the indigenous population. It makes no sense since most Vietnamese are light-skinned, have straight hair, and occasionally chinese eyes. There is a possibility that we have a certain degree of mixture with these local people, but nonetheless, it seems to be a small portion. Speaking about genetic, dark-skinned is a dominant gene, whereas light-skinned is a recessive gene; so a greater portion of the mongoloid gene would be mixing to form the modern day Vietnamese, the (Kinh).”

I have nothing more to say. Like many Vietnamese scholars, historians, I would support the theory that my ancestor came from China. If my ancestor came from the south (Khmer, Malay, Indonesia, etc…), my Mom could not know Kwuan Jin (Quan A^m) that she worships and my Dad could not know Kwuan Gung (Quan Co^ng) that he worships. I am southerner (Saigon origin). All my members of my family are light skinned and are mistaken for being Chinese all the time in America. And if that was the case then Kingdom of Vietnam could have used other than Han (Chinese) language for its official language for thousand of years.

Dr. Traveller,

Please come back with your research. Thanks.

Hafti,

What is going wrong with you? Sounds like you are in trouble with your identity.
An Nam Guy    Wednesday, August 07, 2002 at 11:56:14 (PDT)
Also here's a thought. Ok, the traveller provided a site that says that during han rule vietnamese population rose from 70 thousand to 750 thousand. The traveller thinks that this rise happened due to immigration of han groups. BUT you know what? That is a 680 thousand difference, if it was all han, then the entire vietnamese language would have not survived due to the fact of outnumber, also if the han were our ancesters what makes you think that we wouldn't have used their langauge entirely instead of trying to preserve our language since the conquer? That's 680 thousand han compared to 70 thousand original viets. The only flaw in the travellers thinking there was that usually birth rate contribute for most of the population growth. If it was vietnamese births then it explains the continuing existance of the language. Also the loyalty to the first dynasties of vietnam (non-chinese ones). No one doubts that china has a great contribution, but the vietnamese population as a whole must have been greater then that of the han to have assimilated the han into vietnamese loyalty from the chinese royal court. Hence logical existance that we atleast have some dong son or atleast yueh (remember there were 100 tribes, each different).

And once again, since when did i deny ALL han blood in vietnamese? I was proving your facts wrong. You said that todays viets have NO dong son influence or Yueh influence AT ALL. Even when the chinese record the modern vietnamese to be descendents to atleast one of the 100 yueh tribes, not all of the tribes were dark, they were simply 100 tribes who combined forces to fight against the growing han. And dna shows a relative derivative from both the SE Asian stock of asians and the mongoloid. How do you explain sinodonty which only shows up in 30% of the vietnamese? How do you explain the muong who is primarily sundadonts and yet they are light and look close to identical to today viets?
Hafti    Tuesday, August 06, 2002 at 22:06:16 (PDT)
Black pride :( what a shame,

"This is the actual truth: nothing good ever came out of the negroid race. They contributed nothing to civilization; all that they do do is corrupt it!"

Why post such a racist statement? I guess you haven't read of the accomplishments of the Nubians. Its one thing to bash Afrocentric extremists, but there are Africanists out there who are doing actual positive research.
T dot O in 2k3    Tuesday, August 06, 2002 at 16:34:59 (PDT)
hey editor...i submitted lots of evidence here but none got posted. WHY?

anyways...listen i try not to sound offensive.

i do not believe in the out of africa i think multi-regional is the way to go.

south asians are not negroids for fecks sake....dravidian is a caucasoid race. Aryan was first used in rig-veda to mean 'honourable person'. Sankrit was the first indo-european language. all languages in south asia are derived from Sankrit apart from farsi of course which belong to persian language family.

that means bangali, punjabi, gujrati, hindi have about 80% sankrit....wheras look at english where only 15% latin derived.

modern south asians are a mixture of veddoids (aborginal indian peeps) and dravidians! both races are now extinct. only the indian remain.

i am not racist just stating facts. you guys seem racist and obssessed with who belongs to what group. sheesh, get a grip.

and why the does the blinking editor always edit my messages out???!!!
yayati    Tuesday, August 06, 2002 at 14:22:41 (PDT)

[Your good stuff/hate-rant ratio is low. You also bore us to tears by repeating the same old thing. Your posts are also eyesores. These are more than enough reasons to omit your posts. We allow this one only by way of a general advisory to everyone. --Ed]
To, VNinterest;

http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/human+skin+color

Read that, skin color has incomplete dominance features. Meaning that both of whatever is considered dominant and recessive shows characteristics in the child.

And in the article it speaks of skin mutations on how they achieve the skin color they have. They use the term evolve which means change to fit the area.

Here's an example of evolution creating species similar due to common ancestry but developed to look different. The peppered moth.

http://seamonkey.ed.asu.edu/~alex/pub/aect2000b/pages/epage3.htm

It seems that you didn't even consider evolution. For example, the muong (they're always a good example). They keep away from mixing with others, they have trading relationships with the thai but that's it. They are considered descendents to the dong son by genetics and archaelogy also passed down stories. Yet for some reason the descendents look totally different from the ancestor! Why? LOOK IT UP, there is a thing doctors call evolution. It happens through mutations, and mutations is what created all the variations we have today. Don't you find it stunning that only 30% of vietnamese have sinodonty in the north, and a majority having sundadonty? And more common in the south and yet the skin color difference is more noticeable then it is in the north? Isn't it stunning that dna tests show a lower chromosome 7 level then there should?

In that article the andamese (sp?) are said to be negritos, and it states that even though they are short the only similarities between the african pygmies and them are the skin color and the shortness. They are welly proportioned unlike the pygmies who have longer arms. Genetic tests were done on them. The andamese look african, but through all these tests it shows little similarities in genes. Thus the hypothesis that the similarities were brought forth by similar environment.

Many cases apply. The traveller is ignorant enough, he doesn't even read anyones posts and yet he still replies. Please be wiser because it gets more annoying as more people like him come in.

He considers himself to have proved me wrong without even understanding my standpoint. WHAT A FOOL. All i said that the dong son must of had atleast a huge influence, it might not be the majority of our genes, but evidence proves similarities between the muong, and the muong have no similarities with the chinese.
Hafti    Tuesday, August 06, 2002 at 13:57:44 (PDT)
To, the traveller and VN interest;

OMG you ignorant fools. Since when did i say that modern viets and chinese have NO similarities and NO common ancestry? All i was saying is that to a certain extent due to escavations and DNA tests the modern vietnamese are similar to the melanesoid and polynesian types. But it doesn't mean we have no similarities with the mongoloids as in history a wave of mongoloids migrated in.

Stop trying to twist words around. Don't forget that the modern mongoloids in some theories which is supported by DNA (genetics) that northern mongoloids came from SE Asia but mutated later on. Why is it so hard to believe that mutations can't happen while staying still in one place? For example look at the muong, a people who have extremely similar linguistic origins (just exclude the chinese influence), also in looks (if you put a muong in a room filled with kinh you won't beable to tell the difference at all), also some early cultural similarities it is undeniable that we atleast have some genetic similarities with the muong. The muong are said to be descendents to the dong son just to let you know, not the hoa binh.

The dong son and hoa binh are said to be related due to close proximaty, but since your all history buffs you should also know that these types of cultures and people are usually found isolated in different caves. The bone structures of each are in a way similar yet different. This might suggest mutations that could have gave birth to the differences in looks. Fore example sundadonts and sinodonts. Sinodontal teeth are derived from early humans with teeth of the sundadont variety, these same people were also darker.

Through genetics, it supports that sinodonts developed from SE Asia northward.
"But if the Yueh were the dravidian(Melanesian), then it must be the Han that were the Mongoloid group."

Actually very little support actually says the Yueh as a whole were dravidian derived. If you read a book you would know that the 100 Yueh tribes consisted of different tribes who joined together to resist chinese domination. No one knows if the majority of the Yueh were dravidian or not, because you know why? It's not welly supported. Give me a valid source on what your saying.

"Speaking about genetic, dark-skinned is a dominant gene, whereas light-skinned is a recessive gene; so a greater portion of the mongoloid gene would be mixing to form the modern day Vietnamese, the (Kinh). Just expressing my opinion."

I find that to be false to a degree. As many models today who are half white and half black have white skin, but black features (bone structure). The skin color you cannot say in the way you are saying. And once again, genetics change over time, mutations and adaptations happen ALL the time. If you can provide me resource on what your saying please.

"Sooo actually, the present day vietnamese are likely to be less the descendant of the Dong Son(which were originated from the Hoabinhian.) All in all, modern Vietnamese are mongoloid race not Austronasian(Malay-polynesian). Like i said, if you want to see how the real Hoabinhian looks like, all you have to do is to travel to the islands where Malay-polynesian inhabited. Their culture, like the Dong Son, is lapita culture centered."

"However, the "Ruan/Yuan/nguyen" surname may derive from China rather than in Vietnam. Since according to you, the Dong Son's who were the "real" Vietnamese didn't live in the northern province of China; therefore, the "Nguyen's" didn't inhered their last name from the dong Son."

There was no china at those days. The last name existed parrallel to the Shang dynasty. It might be china today but in those days it wasn't.

http://www.cloudband.com/gallery/shirleyday/introduction_copy.html

That site does have information on the dong son, but nothing on the skin color at all.

Here's a thought for you. Skin color changes through time. Sinodonty only developed 16 thousand years ago, the hoabinhians lived 17 thousand years ago. Many new traits could be added on, as in common belief through genetics prove that modern northern mongoloids originated in SE Asia but started out dark with sundadonty, which later developed into sinodonty and lighter skin.

Why is it so hard for an individual mutation to happen in vietnam? It happens every where else.

READ up on the dna testings. Especially the ones you gave us.
Hafti    Tuesday, August 06, 2002 at 13:32:05 (PDT)

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