ASIAN LIFE IN SAN FRANCISCO
(Updated to reflect the 100 most recent valid responses.)

Which San Francisco Bay area offers the best environment for Asian Americans?
Downtown SF | 47%
East Bay | 31%
Marin County | 8%
South San Francisco | 14%

What's the best thing about living in the San Francisco Bay area?
Breathtaking Scenic Beauty | 40%
Clean Air | 19%
Lots of Fine Chinese Restaurants | 15%
Asians Everywhere | 18%
Great Universities, Skiing and Wine | 8%

What's the worst thing about living in the San Francisco Bay area?
No Summer Weather | 12%
Perpetual Gridlock | 40%
Too Crowded with Asians | 1%
Shortage of Decent Housing | 47%
Also, the reason why the fobs here are ugly is because they send all the refugees out here. They always go to the junky areas though, like Tenderloin, and out in the podunk towns like Sacramento, Fresno, and Stockton.

All the hot HK chicks who just come over either come here, Vancouver, or Toronto. All the hot Taiwanese chicks either come here or LA. What do you get in NYC? Fukienese?!?!
Toi San Jai    Saturday, December 29, 2001 at 14:52:48 (PST)
Hey T H! Thanks for defending me. I found my stats from Goldsea itself. I think yours are probably more up to date.

Toisan Doi... like I posted before under a different moniker, the entire BAY AREA is NOT just SAN FRANCISCO! What about Oakland Chinatown, Daly City (Little Manila), Fremont (Little Taipei), Milpitas (New HK), and San Jose (Little Saigon)?

Higher percentage does equal seeing more Asians. Your examples aren't good. Of course, if you hang out in Chinatown, all you will see are Chinese. The same thing would happen in any city across the nation. What I'm saying is that on any given day, in any given neighborhood, at any given time, you will likely see more Asians in the Bay than in any other city on the mainland. Say I just randomly dropped you somewhere in any of those counties listed, and you only have one minute to observe. Chances are you will see more Asians there than anywhere else.

I think what you are trying to get at is that since NYC is bigger we will run into more people a day, which in turn, leads to seeing more Asians. Maybe if we see 100 people in the Bay, 25 will be Asians. If we see 300 in NYC, 48 will be Asians. So, you do see more in number in NYC. You also see more white and black people, but they probably won't stick in your mind.

That doesn't hold well though. Say I lived in mainland China, where obviously, it's pretty much 100% Chinese. If I lived out in the farms somewhere, and only see 5 people a day, does that mean that NYC has more Chinese?!?!
Toi San Jai    Saturday, December 29, 2001 at 14:40:26 (PST)
To Toisan Jai and T.H. Lien,

Hey guys, how about this fyi? So wouldn't NY top every Cali place because Asians in NY are much more segregated from whites than elsewhere? I don't understand this high percentage thing???

Of the 50 metropolitan areas with the largest percentage of Asians, here are the 10 areas where Asians and whites are the most segregated.

Area name Rank for the Year of 2000

New York 1
Stockton, Calif. 2
Houston 3
Sacramento 4
San Francisco 5
Los Angeles 6
Vallejo, Calif. 7
San Diego 8
Detroit 9
Atlanta 10

Toisan Doi    Thursday, December 27, 2001 at 14:53:13 (PST)
Toisan Doi:
Logic is flawed? I'm not really sure what you're trying to get at with all your talk about more people lumped into a smaller area (especially when NYC has a higher pop. density than the Bay Area). Higher percentage of Asians leads to seeing more Asians, in general. San Francisco, San Mateo, Alameda, and Santa Clara are the only counties in the whole mainland USA which have a percentage of Asians above 20%. Read government statistics (Toisan Jai, where did ya find 18.8 for Alameda? I checked 2000 Census and got 20.4% ... hmm).

Maybe if you did a breakdown by census tract, you'd find that the Asians in Cali are more concentrated in certain neighborhoods, though. Despite Alameda county having about 20% Asians, I can take a long drive around my parent's neighborhood in Oakland and not even find a Chinese carryout. Is it the same in NYC, with some neighborhoods overwhelmingly Asian and others overwhelmingly White? This phenomenon is obvious even on a county-wide scale, San Francisco county with 30%+ Asian population is just a drive across the bridge from Marin county with 6% Asians. 80% of Asians in California live in a county adjoining the coastline or the SF Bay. Then again this is pattern is repeated for the whole US, though not to the same extent.

As for the whole grotesqueness thing, for some reason in most cities, all the girls I meet are either really hot, or really not hot, there are no average to above-average looking girls. I found this a lot more pronounced in SF, thought the same thing doesn't seem to happen when I'm down around Millbrae, South SF, etc. Any comments?
T.H. Lien    Wednesday, December 26, 2001 at 18:57:27 (PST)

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