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Well I am having a good laugh now because Elaine has gone from merely pathetic to downright ridiculous. I think thats great though, because its off the wall posters such as her ( or him- who ever knows the reality of the posters...) that give me such a chuckle to come here. She has a lot of time on her hands to contribute so many postings...maybe she's in a dry spell? lol...
Its ok, in a sense, if she sees Asian men as toys, because I assure you , they are taking her no more seriously. In fact, I can almost envision the conversations AMs in her community are having about her. Whoever said that men in that position are studs, women are sluts - that is the reality of how society views them, good or bad, fair or not.( By the way, I think the larger point being made was not so much her " sluttiness" , but her ethnocentricity regarding only white men being marrriage material, while AMs are disposable sex toys. )
At any rate Elaine, you have been amusing, and I will keep checking in here to read the inevitable posting where you had a 3 way with Russell Wong, Won Bin and Jason Scott Lee...and then married Brad Pitt....
WF married to AM who DIDN'T screw ELAINE can you believe it?
Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 06:27:39 (PST)
Southern White girl,
Hey, you seem like a cool open minded person. Your husband must be a lucky guy. I think I read your story about how you met before. So how did he pursue you? How did you play shy?
Anyways, I wish you both good luck. I think that more Asian men should gather confidence to ask out white women and other non-Asian women. I've dated several white women and I don't know why other Asian men find it so foreign and strange. In the end, white girls are just like any other girls. If you make that connection with them, and are comfortable around them, it makes a big difference.
Gary
Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 01:33:43 (PST)
Elaine: I do have to say, at least you are up front with these AM you are sleeping with. I suppose if you both just want sex that is your business. I cannot comprehend why you would only want to marry a WM, but I hope you at least marry on the basis that both of you are knowingly using each other in some way. I'm not only saying that to be mean, I just think it would be pretty sad for a nice white guy to end up with someone who preferred Asian men in bed.
Southern White Girl
Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 01:12:58 (PST)
"You do not have to learn about Asian culture or speak an Asian language to date Asian guys."
JJK: I know what you are trying to say and I do appreciate it. Just to clarify, though, I had already been studying Chinese for a year before I met him. I was not using language as a means to meet Asian men. In fact I wanted to study Arabic and my father suggested Chinese might be more useful. I still dated several American guys even after I began studying Chinese.
"I'd be very surprised to find a white girl who knows a lot about the Asian culture, but it wouldn't pull me in any closer than if you knew nothing about it."
Well, this may shock you :-) but I did get a degree in East Asian Studies, studied Chinese for four years, and lived in China for 7 months, so I do know a bit about Asian culture. I was always neck and neck with (I know, I know, it's very shocking :-) another white girl for the top grades in my Chinese classes (so my grades were even better than the Asians in my classes). I've had many of my husbands' friends call and go on and on before they realize I'm not Chinese. In fact my own mother-in-law has thought I was my sister-in-law over the phone and talked to ME about myself in Chinese (I was so stunned I just hung up and called my sis-in-law and told her to tell her mom the phone got disconnected--that is the Chinese way after all, let her save face, right). But I know, it is rare and I'm sure you haven't met many white girls who understand Asian culture, so I can't blame you.
I'm glad cultural understanding wouldn't make a difference for you, but it does sound like you are probably Asian American. I think cultural understanding might be more important and helpful for relationships with men who grew up in Asia, not that it would be absolutely necessary. I know my understanding helps a lot my marriage, as does my husband's understanding and openess to American culture. I really want my kids to speak both Chinese and English and understand both cultures. I would be upset if they grew up in America and never gained an appreciation of my husband's culture, which is one reason we hope to live in China for at least several years once we have kids.
I really don't think many white women who don't have an understanding of Asian culture could tolerate having their mother-in-law live with them for a year as I did. Not that it was easy for me--even with an understanding of the culture there were misunderstandings and it was very difficult at times. Honestly there were times I thought it would ruin my marriage. But I think most other white women would have walked soon after she stepped in the door. My own family said I should put my foot down and not let her live with us, but having an understanding of the culture, I knew my husband was also in a very awkward position--he couldn't outright refuse his mother. Maybe an Asian American could, for one because their parents probably wouldn't need a place to stay, secondly because their parents might be understanding that their son's American wife wouldn't be used to such a situation. However, the situation is very different for a man from China whose mother is alone and doesn't have resources.
I don't pretend to understand or even like everything about Chinese (or Asian) culture anymore than I understand or like everything about American culture. The truth is though, I am extremely observant, and I am confident if I looked Asian (and mastered the language 100%) I could move to China and completely blend in. When I am in China I act totally Chinese without even trying--I cannot help but adapt to those around me. When in China I had so many people tell me I acted like a Chinese girl, unlike any of the American girls they had met so far. I was not trying to fit in, it just happened. I suppose this kind of adapability can be seen as a gift, but the negative side is that after a while (and especially if moving from one culture to another) you lose a sense of who you are personally.
Southern White Girl
Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 00:51:44 (PST)
In a way I agree with Elaine. What's wrong with wanting to marry someone within your own race? If an AF were to decide that she was to only marry an AM would that make her somehow less of a person? What business is it of yours who she wants to marry? As far as I'm concerned. If she wants to have some fun before she gets hitched then I don't see what the problem is. As long as she's upfront with her feelings and doesn't play games on the men she's with. Where's the harm? I totally agree with Tanman's last sentence when he said "Funny how when a guy is promiscuous he is called a stud while a woman is called a slut."
Elaine,
Keep on playin you hottie!
AAM (Alpha Asian Male)
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 21:19:51 (PST)
I have to say in the last few years Australia has gotten more racist ..i have lived there until my late teens during my high school days in new south wales i was constantly harassed by being call a chink ..ching chong etc ...it wasn't until i was 15 or so when i got bigger and train in the art of dirty streetfighting the bullying stopped..i am afraid Violence is the only answer u can walk away of course but sometimes it doesn't work ..like the time i was with 2 white female friends at a nightclub after we finish our high school exams ..3 redneck type guys came up to me and said...what the F..k u doing with chinkboy ...etc...basically i ignore them but after we left they were waiting for me outside ..still verbally abusing me ..u should see the look of surpise when i kick one of them in the balls...the other 2 quickly try to grab me but i cut one with my car keys he back off and so did the other one...luckily for them the bouncers came out ..cuz i would had seriously bit someone ears off if I had to!..i know it ain't pretty but i think learning just basic streetfighting skills is good for confidence when living in a white-majority country ...anyway i left Australia with DISGUST when Pauline Hanson a friggin chipshop owner was elected .she was a goddamn white neonazis who went about telling white auzzies how the country was being overrun by evil asians ...from crime to jobs she just blame the asians and she got elected ..shit..my opinion of australians wasn't all that great to start with but to elect a racist into parliament is a total shock ...i am just glad i left the country quick !
former asian OZ
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 21:11:08 (PST)
The last place to meet decent white women are in nightclubs. White women in nightclubs are always the opposite of what they really are once you get them in the daylight and get them sober.
AM
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 18:12:57 (PST)
There's nothing wrong with Elaine's POV. I feel the same way. I'll f' around with WF's just for kicks. But I know I'll marry an AF. There's nothing wrong with getting a little taste of the rainbow before settling for one flavor.
Taste like chicken
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 16:14:18 (PST)
Southern White Girl
I'm happy for you and your man.
Rice Cooker
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 13:51:42 (PST)
Tanman
What makes you think there are no male sluts? One of the biggest turn-offs for me is a guy who has slept around a lot. Sleeping with someone is like giving a part of your soul - for me, it's important to choose wisely.
Elaine
I think you are a sad person - you give yourself away too easily, usually an indicator of the desparate need for attention. Whatever happened to self-control and self-esteem?
Rice Cooker
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 13:49:44 (PST)
"Ignorant people are everywhere, in Missippi and Lousiana I saw so many signs for clan rallys, and bumper stickers that said "don't buy crap, don't buy from a jap", in Detroit a car of whites yelled "f*** you slant eye job stealer", and threw beer bottle at me, so its all relative i think. Just my thoughts...peace"
Not really relevant...but try going out with one of the white women from Louisiana and Mississippi...it would be barbecue time.
Asian American Male
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 12:37:54 (PST)
"Here at Goldsea I see orientals saying they're better than blacks and mexicans."
Asian...not Orientals..we are not a piece of property!
"I see japanese saying they're better than koreans."
Actually more Japanese marry Koreans here in the US...at least second generation.
"They have said that they are better than others."
Blanket statement. Not everyone.
"I don't understand why it's so wrong for me to want to marry my own kind one day."
Depends on the definition of your own kind. If the Germans and the English had thought like you during the 1700s, there wont be any so-called American whites...
Asian
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 12:36:16 (PST)
"I don't understand why it's so wrong for me to want to marry my own kind one day."
Then you should date white men. You should not be leading people on.
"I love the beauty of Asian men but I also love the beauty of little blonde babies too!"
I also love lower taxes but I want government services too.
"Why would you call Asian men who dream of sleeping with a pretty white female like myself a sell out with low self esteem?"
Sleeping with anyone before marriage is against traditional Asian values.
"If you knew me, I would have you following me around like a puppy within 24 hours because my sexuality is very intoxicating. Just talking to you is turning me on so I know what it must be doing to you."
To this day, I have not slept around with anyone other than my wife. I personally do not care much for white women, just because they have attitude like you.
Asian American Male
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 12:21:22 (PST)
Why is everyone so down on Elaine? I have no problems whatsoever with cool chicks like her. They are sexually liberated; they know what they want, they go after it and there is nothing wrong with that.
My personal experience with Elaine's type started more than ten years ago, in the local Renaissance Faire. I met this strawberry blonde by the name of Stephanie. Physically she was just perfect for me - voluptuous, very womanly hourglass figure, the works.
With Stephanie, I really wasn't concerned about things like shared values or life philosophies. The only thing that mattered was, well, going at it like rabbits.
It ended when my family moved to Vancouver, but Stephanie gave me an appetite, and I have been seeking women like her ever since. They are incredibly passionate, and when they say they want you, you can belive it 100%. Even when it's "bad" it's still good; when it's "good" it's unbelievably f**king good.
It's great to be with a girl like that, when you know she's not trying to sink her claws into you and drag you kicking and screaming to matrimony. They're totally into you only because they love the way you are, not because of the car you drive or the money you make.
I have also been involved with a few married WFs. The morality of it doesn't bother me that much, but having had the experience, I probably won't want to marry a WF down the road - trust may become an issue.
Look, guys: with all the whitewashed Asian women out there who do not regard you as a worthy mate, and all the media distortions out there that deny your sexuality, someone like Elaine is a breath of fresh air. If you have *any* experience with girls like her, you'd love them. You also wouldn't spend so much time writing negative messages in Goldsea. I only wish there's more Elaines and Stephanies in the world to give all my studly Asian brothers some much-needed honey too.
Successful Asian American Executive exec@email.com
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 09:30:39 (PST)
tope 5 racist countries on earth, sorted from worst to.......well not worst.
1. South Africa
2. Australia
3. Germany
4. Zimbabwe
5. France (beleive or not, these are statistics from a newsweek magazine from 1989)
6. UK
7. USA
8. Netherlands
9. Argentina (surprisingly)
10.Japan (very suprising)
Canada rated as one of the most non racist countries, while newzealand came in second along with Thailand, Malaysia, Monaco and Luxembourg
kow
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 09:10:09 (PST)
asian american male
sorry to dissapoint you but i am a chinese australian and i have lived here since i was 9 and im 26 now, we have to study the white australia policy in school and i would have to say...you dont know shit about this country, the americans were against the white australia policy this before and a little after the second world war, black US soldiers sent here to defend Australia from the Japanese were not allowed to enter because they were black. and to the other chinese american male, man i dont know where you live but the racism is there man marius is soo right in many ways, asians are treated twice as bad as blacks here (excluding aborigines), aboriginies are treated like rubbish by most people unfortunately.
marius im with you
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 08:59:36 (PST)
i hoped you kicked his ass, well trust me we all wanted to but we were in a foregin country and getting put in a cell was not our idea of a holiday, so we just parted, but my friend was red with rage, id have to say the other guy is lucky.
marius
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 08:54:05 (PST)
chinese aussie male,
are you blind!!, example number one of many racist riots: Alfred Huang Chinese Australian ran for mayor of Adelaide, his campaign HQ was overrun by anti chink rioters throwing stones through his windows, face it Australia is a beatiful country, but the society truly sucks.
marius
Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 08:50:45 (PST)
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